Ukraine were beaten by day 3, Russia has been fighting NATO or the entire US and NATO special forces and weaponary since day 4, just like all other proxy wars, western special forces stay well behind the front lines, but they are responsible for the precision guided hits, not some Ukrainian grunt, they re just on the front lines to die for a cause that doesn't give two shits about them.
Zelensky and the west mainly US wants to develop Ukrainian gas that where developed can assist Europe with its dependence on Russia, Obviously this isn't in Russias interest, Ukraine in many Russians eyes owes all its wealth and sovereignty to its previous soviet position, I note that others have mentioned Ukraines previous nuclear weapon position, that was a soviet position therefore Russian position in Russias opinion not Ukrainian, there are two sides to this conflict, dont be blinded by the west or anti west and therefore pro Putin, simply this is a terrible waste of life for the common man who stands to gain nothing whatever the outcome.
Zelensky and Putin are both the same, just Zelensky bids for his western partners, Putin himself and Russias strategic interest, they are being isolated even after the Soviet Union collapsed and NATO continues to encroach on their border, basically eroding any concessions given to Stalin post world war, where Russias sacrifice was far greater than say the US, there are more than a few old US war commentators who feel the Second World War should have continued with the US bombing Moscow after Japan, then stopping the Cold War rather than starting it by not doing it.Rember only one country has ever dropped a nuclear type bomb on a civilian population and it wasn't Russia or China.
Sorry for the lack of punctuation before the getbig scholars jump to relevance.
