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EV Batteries
« on: May 12, 2024, 02:34:50 AM »
Brutal if true??





This is a Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car.

To manufacture it you need:

--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore

You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:

-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite

The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 20
21 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost).

The cost of Tesla batteries are:

Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)

It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
And finally, my new friend, Michael, made some excellent points: I forgot to mention the amount of energy required to process the raw materials and the amount of energy used to haul these batteries to the U.S. sometimes back and forth a couple of times.

But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for human rights.

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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2024, 05:32:49 AM »
So it all makes sense then?

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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2024, 06:01:56 AM »
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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2024, 04:20:29 PM »
Brutal if true??





This is a Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car.

To manufacture it you need:

--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore

You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:

-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite

The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 20
21 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost).

The cost of Tesla batteries are:

Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)

It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
And finally, my new friend, Michael, made some excellent points: I forgot to mention the amount of energy required to process the raw materials and the amount of energy used to haul these batteries to the U.S. sometimes back and forth a couple of times.

But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for human rights.


Yet another huge obvious con trick the Thick Sheep 🐑  like idiots fell for
Hook line sinker & fishing rod.  Dumb Khvnts 🤬🤬🤬

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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2024, 03:03:44 PM »
EV's =FAIL.
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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2024, 04:12:04 AM »
"I'm for whatever gets me elected." -- Politician

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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2024, 02:03:22 PM »
"I'm for whatever gets me elected." -- Politician

Sadly, this is often the case. As a political activist I have stumped, and endorsed many politicians some of who lied or made promises they failed to keep to get elected. 

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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2024, 04:10:36 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/10/his-rhetoric-has-made-tesla-toxic-is-elon-musk-driving-away-his-target-market


There are signs the billionaire is becoming unpopular with the very demographic group most likely to buy EVs

You Believe The Guardian Ha Ha Ha FFS
Left wing Shit. 

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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2024, 06:43:50 AM »
You Believe The Guardian Ha Ha Ha FFS
Left wing Shit.
He won't respond. He is the OAK of the politics board.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: EV Batteries
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2024, 06:01:33 PM »
He won't respond. He is the OAK of the politics board.

Yes I gathered he is.