physiques definately not better than the 90's greats

[MAXX]

was the talent pool greater? idk, fitness/gym culture is more popular today because of youtube social media etc. in the 90's it was more odd/subculture thing. Still better physiques.

see from 5 minute mark nothing better today really.

[jude2]

I prefer the physiques  in that era

[robcguns]

Without question there is no one today who can stand with the pros of the 90s.

[Humble Narcissist]

I prefer the physiques  in that era

One of the only good things about being old is we got to experience the 80's and 90's.

[LurkerNoMore]

Pros today don't want to pay their dues.  They overdo it with the drugs and insulin and off season eating and inactive lifestyle.

[jude2]

One of the only good things about being old is we got to experience the 80's and 90's.

Yep the greatest era.  The physiques varied and looked so good.

[oldschoolfan]

The top 6 at the 93 Olympia would defeat anyone today not even close

[Van_Bilderass]

Pros today don't want to pay their dues.  They overdo it with the drugs and insulin and off season eating and inactive lifestyle.

Are you sure they're more inactive? Seems to me cardio, often daily, is seen as essential nowadays across the board. I don't think it was as important in the 90s but maybe I'm wrong. Agree that they eat more probably, as they have to considering the BW, but the diets seem blander, 'cleaner' (a bit of a silly notion but you know what I mean) and just stricter wrt to daily meal schedule. Bodyfat percentages are kept lower off season as well. Back then you had Priest and his full fat milk and cookies and ice cream to grow. One pro said him and the rest of the top guys all agreed food like hamburgers grew you best and you can't eat all clean and grow (i.e. low fat). Today they go out of their way to buy 98% beef and then rinse it lol. Back then you had Chad telling many of the top guys to drink oil to increase calories. If you go by stage BF% they are lower across the board, if you'd caliper them they have lower fat over the whole body. The increased muscle blurs the 90s type definition somehow. Levrone said he did no GH for his first O and was never as crisp again but it's not like GH makes you fatter, more watery perhaps, mostly in the muscle though. Another thing, back then going to the hospital after shows due to diuretic abuse was seen as almost normal. So what I'm saying is that todays look is not due to the laziness of the bbers, at least that's my perspective, then it was more common to completely relax and sometimes not even train off season, instead partying. These fuckers today are adjusting their diets daily or weekly and sending pics and video to their coaches to monitor minute changes to their appearance year round lol. So I don't know about dues paid, even the constant year round drug taking is plain work. Just some thoughts. But yes, they did look a bit different 'quality' wise.

[LurkerNoMore]

Are you sure they're more inactive? Seems to me cardio, often daily, is seen as essential nowadays across the board. I don't think it was as important in the 90s but maybe I'm wrong. Agree that they eat more probably, as they have to considering the BW, but the diets seem blander, 'cleaner' (a bit of a silly notion but you know what I mean) and just stricter wrt to daily meal schedule. Bodyfat percentages are kept lower off season as well. Back then you had Priest and his full fat milk and cookies and ice cream to grow. One pro said him and the rest of the top guys all agreed food like hamburgers grew you best and you can't eat all clean and grow (i.e. low fat). Today they go out of their way to buy 98% beef and then rinse it lol. Back then you had Chad telling many of the top guys to drink oil to increase calories. If you go by stage BF% they are lower across the board, if you'd caliper them they have lower fat over the whole body. The increased muscle blurs the 90s type definition somehow. Levrone said he did no GH for his first O and was never as crisp again but it's not like GH makes you fatter, more watery perhaps, mostly in the muscle though. Another thing, back then going to the hospital after shows due to diuretic abuse was seen as almost normal. So what I'm saying is that todays look is not due to the laziness of the bbers, at least that's my perspective, then it was more common to completely relax and sometimes not even train off season, instead partying. These fuckers today are adjusting their diets daily or weekly and sending pics and video to their coaches to monitor minute changes to their appearance year round lol. So I don't know about dues paid, even the constant year round drug taking is plain work. Just some thoughts. But yes, they did look a bit different 'quality' wise.

These people weighing over 300lbs can't really do "cardio" in the off season.  I mean they may slog around on the treadmill going through the motions but that's it.  That amount of BF, combined with potential HP, etc...   they really don't need to do much other than move around to get their HR up.

Now days everyone tries and expects to be Top 5 at the Mr O in two years.  It's a crash course in maxing out their bodies. 

[Gym Rat]

These people weighing over 300lbs can't really do "cardio" in the off season.  I mean they may slog around on the treadmill going through the motions but that's it.  That amount of BF, combined with potential HP, etc...   they really don't need to do much other than move around to get their HR up.

Now days everyone tries and expects to be Top 5 at the Mr O in two years.  It's a crash course in maxing out their bodies.

This ^^
A product of the times. More drugs, more food, more rest (an excuse to be lazy for many), more bloat.
Water balloon city...

[joswift]

You see todays pros on a treadmill piss wet fucking through with a towel

They are fucking walking... walking shouldnt have you blowing out your arse piss wet through

[Krankenstein]

check out 'definitely'

[joswift]

check out 'definitely'

thats one of my boggie words I tend to write "defiantly"

[20inch calves]

I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose

[Donny]

You see todays pros on a treadmill piss wet fucking through with a towel

They are fucking walking... walking shouldnt have you blowing out your arse piss wet through

the best cardio is cycling outside & with some hills in there. Fartlek (speed play) everything is trained. vary the tempo.

[joswift]

I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose

Nasser couldnt run for a fucking bus, they have no idea what cardio is if they think they can spend 3 hours doing it

[TheShape.]

I think it’s a combination between better drugs and harder training styles. Compare how Dorian trained compared to others in this era focusing on machines and lighter weight. The use of insulin has really ruined it, many of these pros have little definition and cuts when compared to other bodybuilders of even the 1970s.

[MAXX]

check out 'definitely'

I wont remember it and I cant be bothered to spellcheck so suck it 

[MAXX]

I think it’s a combination between better drugs and harder training styles. Compare how Dorian trained compared to others in this era focusing on machines and lighter weight. The use of insulin has really ruined it, many of these pros have little definition and cuts when compared to other bodybuilders of even the 1970s.

I think I remember Levrone talking on a podcast how he only tried it once or what it was. Or maybe that was growth... oh well

[joswift]

I think it’s a combination between better drugs and harder training styles. Compare how Dorian trained compared to others in this era focusing on machines and lighter weight. The use of insulin has really ruined it, many of these pros have little definition and cuts when compared to other bodybuilders of even the 1970s.

Fuck , you have invoked Rimjob to appear telling us Dorian trained like everyone else.

[BigRo]

I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose

Because he pigged out on cheesecake the night before, 3 weeks out from the O.

[BigRo]

the best cardio is cycling outside & with some hills in there. Fartlek (speed play) everything is trained. vary the tempo.

I do fartlek at night while sleeping.

[joswift]

Because he pigged out on cheesecake the night before, 3 weeks out from the O.

and he thought 3 hours of cardio would make any diffence on what he ate that day?

No wonder they need prep coaches.

[The Scott]

The creme of the crap of today's physiques are turgid with drugs.    The idea that bodybuilding is a "job" has created a class of retards that think they're being "scientific" when they weigh their portions.  Just look at photos of Dorian (and others) of that time in the  "off season". They were never off the drugs.   Smooth as a moose with so much water on him you wonder how he breathes under it all.  Probably through gills in their ass.   That's true of pretty much all 90s guys. 

Smeared on fake tans that even some black guys put on. Gross.  Huge guts and hamstrings that are useless for anything but having a schmoe pay them to rub semen into.

It's all drugs 2/24/365.   And it continues to this day.  No one gets off the dope and even the "classic" guys look like slobs compared to the '70s era winners.

[BigRo]

and he thought 3 hours of cardio would make any diffence on what he ate that day?

No wonder they need prep coaches.

I think it can, pretty weak willed to be eating cheesecake 3 weeks out though.