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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2024, 08:39:28 AM »
The creme of the crap of today's physiques are turgid with drugs.    The idea that bodybuilding is a "job" has created a class of retards that think they're being "scientific" when they weigh their portions.  Just look at photos of Dorian (and others) of that time in the  "off season". They were never off the drugs.   Smooth as a moose with so much water on him you wonder how he breathes under it all.  Probably through gills in their ass.   That's true of pretty much all 90s guys. 

Smeared on fake tans that even some black guys put on. Gross.  Huge guts and hamstrings that are useless for anything but having a schmoe pay them to rub semen into.

It's all drugs 2/24/365.   And it continues to this day.  No one gets off the dope and even the "classic" guys look like slobs compared to the '70s era winners.

Classic guys are not golden era but they get insanely peeled. That takes dedication.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2024, 08:40:52 AM »
The creme of the crap of today's physiques are turgid with drugs.    The idea that bodybuilding is a "job" has created a class of retards that think they're being "scientific" when they weigh their portions.  Just look at photos of Dorian (and others) of that time in the  "off season". They were never off the drugs.   Smooth as a moose with so much water on him you wonder how he breathes under it all.  Probably through gills in their ass.   That's true of pretty much all 90s guys. 

Smeared on fake tans that even some black guys put on. Gross.  Huge guts and hamstrings that are useless for anything but having a schmoe pay them to rub semen into.

It's all drugs 2/24/365.   And it continues to this day.  No one gets off the dope and even the "classic" guys look like slobs compared to the '70s era winners.

I wonder if Arnold weighed his food

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2024, 08:44:18 AM »
Classic guys are not golden era but they get insanely peeled. That takes dedication.

Yes, but I think that is fueled more by drugs and insanity than by diet and determination. 
 
Your physique would have done well in the '70s.   I am reeeeeally old.  ;D

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2024, 08:44:52 AM »
I wonder if Arnold weighed his food


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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2024, 08:47:00 AM »
Yes, but I think that is fueled more by drugs and insanity than by diet and determination. 
 
Your physique would have done well in the '70s.   I am reeeeeally old.  ;D

Its not possible to get that level of condition with a coasting attitude and drugs can only do so much to get ripped. Those guys have to suffer.

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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2024, 10:40:19 AM »
These people weighing over 300lbs can't really do "cardio" in the off season.  I mean they may slog around on the treadmill going through the motions but that's it.  That amount of BF, combined with potential HP, etc...   they really don't need to do much other than move around to get their HR up.

Now days everyone tries and expects to be Top 5 at the Mr O in two years.  It's a crash course in maxing out their bodies.

I agree with a lot of this but the greats always rose to the top in record speed. Levrone, Wheeler and many others. All were champions "immediately," well maybe not exactly immediately as they typically started juicing at 15-16.

I think I remember Levrone talking on a podcast how he only tried it once or what it was. Or maybe that was growth... oh well

Levrone said he "tried" GH TWICE at a paltry 4iu a day and it ruined his cuts lol.

Its not possible to get that level of condition with a coasting attitude and drugs can only do so much to get ripped. Those guys have to suffer.

I think so too. I'd guess many are so obsessed they have legit eating disorders. The "naturals" are peeled too, probably prep 10 months for a show as it takes time to get that peeled.

I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose

Nasser was famous for doing extreme amounts of drugs, like 5-10 grams of test, 10 Anadrol a day with a lot of Winstrol (both are potentially liver toxic so a combo is worse) to the point of having jaundice according to Chad. Milos had written in his journal about Nasser's Anadrol dosage, whatever that's worth.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2024, 11:18:31 AM »
what was kevins favourite compounds/gear again?

only I can find now is from his early 90's contest prep which was test, deca, anadrol
but that was like 1992...

I want to know what he did when he looked his best(upper body anyways) like year 97, 98, 99, 2000

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2024, 11:28:41 AM »
found info on the insulin

Kevin claims he used it only in 1997 ( same year as video in OP post) and that he said got him his biggest ever but distended his midsection which made him not wanting to do it any more.

around 4:00 starts insulin and GH talk

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2024, 02:18:27 PM »
So according to Dave that did Kevins contest prep /drugs in 1996

1000mg test ew
50mg amps winstrol eod
228mg parabolin ew
4 iu Humatrope hgh ed
14 iu Humulin r insulin ed

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2024, 02:50:46 PM »
This ^^
A product of the times. More drugs, more food, more rest (an excuse to be lazy for many), more bloat.
Water balloon city...

you got  a great point there, i watched one of shawns rays road to the olympia videos , he said in prep for the olympia he was doing cardio twice per day.  and he didnt even weight alot 

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2024, 02:56:30 PM »
I think levrones conditioning was at its best in 92, he got bigger but not better in my opinion.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2024, 07:52:46 PM »
I think levrones conditioning was at its best in 92, he got bigger but not better in my opinion.

I agree 92 was his best bye far

Wheeler looked his best at 220 in 93

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2024, 12:54:11 AM »
I agree with a lot of this but the greats always rose to the top in record speed. Levrone, Wheeler and many others. All were champions "immediately," well maybe not exactly immediately as they typically started juicing at 15-16.

Levrone said he "tried" GH TWICE at a paltry 4iu a day and it ruined his cuts lol.

I think so too. I'd guess many are so obsessed they have legit eating disorders. The "naturals" are peeled too, probably prep 10 months for a show as it takes time to get that peeled.

Nasser was famous for doing extreme amounts of drugs, like 5-10 grams of test, 10 Anadrol a day with a lot of Winstrol (both are potentially liver toxic so a combo is worse) to the point of having jaundice according to Chad. Milos had written in his journal about Nasser's Anadrol dosage, whatever that's worth.
10 Anadrol a day! :o

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2024, 03:44:52 AM »
10 Anadrol a day! :o
he also died before 50,

but then again it could be attributed to synthol use or whatever else too so who knows.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2024, 06:44:33 AM »
he also died before 50,

but then again it could be attributed to synthol use or whatever else too so who knows.

It's the total steroids/gh combo that causes cardiovascular disease, he had heart/kidney failure iirc, was on dialysis at the end, supposedly joked about the inches of foam in his urine (indicating protein leakage due to failing kidneys). Steroids cause left ventricular heart hypertrophy and GH compounds the problem. GH is thought of as very safe, which it is in moderate dosage, but mega dose + steroids over time is trouble. Nasser was asked by Chicherillo if he was gh15 once, he said 'I have taken 15 units of GH.'  Getbig's tbombz used 40 units for a while before heart failure.

I've argued that Synthol shouldn't be dangerous, it's like coconut oil, only injected, metabolised the same as when eaten. Can cause local muscle damage though.

10 Anadrol a day! :o

It's a lot, so much so some say it cannot be done. I know it can be done, just like 100 Dianabols (same mg) :D I think I have tried 30 for a few day, also 5 Anadrols - not really much worse feeling than say 2 a day. More nosebleeds and headache though.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2024, 07:04:32 AM »
It's all really stupid, like dying of stress from working some job you hate for 40 years. This world needs a reset.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2024, 07:42:06 AM »
It's all really stupid, like dying of stress from working some job you hate for 40 years. This world needs a reset.
the New World Order is in action Ro but not good.. :-\

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2024, 10:47:14 AM »
the New World Order is in action Ro but not good.. :-\

Yeah not that kind for sure, Agenda 30 in full swing.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2024, 01:30:47 PM »
It's all really stupid, like dying of stress from working some job you hate for 40 years. This world needs a reset.

Yes it does - just so many things wrong & out of balance.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2024, 01:36:19 PM »
10 Anadrol a day! :o

He must've had severe anemia!

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2024, 12:23:31 AM »
He must've had severe anemia!
He doesn't have it now so the Anadrol worked.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2024, 02:02:31 PM »
Fuck , you have invoked Rimjob to appear telling us Dorian trained like everyone else.

Which he did.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2024, 04:11:26 PM »
The best cardio is watching TV and eating pizza.

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Re: physiques definately not better than the 90's greats
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2024, 01:22:11 AM »
The best cardio is watching TV and eating pizza.
Eating pizza fast?