Phil Williams

[Van_Bilderass]

I have no idea what would happen if you took 10 shots
As I said my training partner & I could get along with 3 - so there was no
Way we'd be trying 4,5,6 & beyond.

I know. But then some freak goes higher and more and more people try it and see they didn't immediately die and it was in fact possible But for sure, tren is potent at lower doses; like I said I notice it at just 5mg or less per day! Para was 50mg of pure tren (the fatty ester was 26mg) and I think the usual dose for medical reasons was every 14 days? So 25mg of pure tren per week.

[illuminati]

I know. But then some freak goes higher and more and more people try it and see they didn't immediately die and it was in fact possible But for sure, tren is potent at lower doses; like I said I notice it at just 5mg or less per day! Para was 50mg of pure tren (the fatty ester was 26mg) and I think the usual dose for medical reasons was every 14 days? So 25mg of pure tren per week.

I don't get what you're point is & why you're intent to contradict what
Jo, Dorian, & I said.

I really do not care how much someone else could take.
If they could handle 10 shots a week whoopee do for them.

 

[38 returns]

i did 1ml organonsust and 1ml tren acetate M/W/F
I lasted 4 weeks- gains were insane but broke out in hives most days which was horrific

but it was an absolute different-level-I went from using 40kg dumbells for arnold press to 55s for 12. insane

Loved it

am due back on mid sept when new gym opens.
doing
600mg test
300mg deca
200mg
mast for 12 weeks.

due to illness I have had to learn to walk again so have lost a lot of muscle but muscle memory is great!

anyone see this as a bad cycle?

[wes]

I used those love quality amps back in he 90`s...........none of this hombrewed garbage.

[illuminati]

i did 1ml organonsust and 1ml tren acetate M/W/F
I lasted 4 weeks- gains were insane but broke out in hives most days which was horrific

but it was an absolute different-level-I went from using 40kg dumbells for arnold press to 55s for 12. insane

Loved it

am due back on mid sept when new gym opens.
doing
600mg test
300mg deca
200mg
mast for 12 weeks.

due to illness I have had to learn to walk again so have lost a lot of muscle but muscle memory is great!

anyone see this as a bad cycle?

Damn - 38 sorry to hear about your illness.
Seems a few of us on here have been through the wars with health issues
This past year.
Hope you're recovering well 👊🏻👍🏻😊

That stack sounds fine & you'll get some good gains.
Will you be at Nathan's gym ??

[Lartinos]

You guys with your fancy amps; I was making Tren from pellets in the 00’s.

Not the best Tren you can buy, but it’s hard to imagine anything stronger.

Never had any cough or anything like that, but I think a taste in my mouth.

Felt side effects on, but coming off was worse.

[wes]

i did 1ml organonsust and 1ml tren acetate M/W/F
I lasted 4 weeks- gains were insane but broke out in hives most days which was horrific

but it was an absolute different-level-I went from using 40kg dumbells for arnold press to 55s for 12. insane

Loved it

am due back on mid sept when new gym opens.
doing
600mg test
300mg deca
200mg
mast for 12 weeks.

due to illness I have had to learn to walk again so have lost a lot of muscle but muscle memory is great!

anyone see this as a bad cycle?

I hope you feel better soon my friend.

[wes]

I remember having to pull my car off  the road to stretch my lower back............the cramping was insanely agonizing.

[tatoo]

damnnnnnnnnnn i totally remember these
I used to get preloads of sustanon from Mexico and hammer those 20 gauge pencil end needles into my leg. Ah young and dumb

i fuckin loved those.. that gold oil.. i think it was sesame at the time.. some of the first gear i ever used in like 1998...along with tornel deca and some pink anabol.. young and dumb too, i had no idea how good that shit was until i was shooting some shit w no label lol.

[38 returns]

Damn - 38 sorry to hear about your illness.
Seems a few of us on here have been through the wars with health issues
This past year.
Hope you're recovering well 👊🏻👍🏻😊

That stack sounds fine & you'll get some good gains.
Will you be at Nathan's gym ??

cheers mate!

yep long story short got clots in my legs, vasculitis and acute gout. inflammation levels of 128- should be 0.1 to 5.0. was a matter of hours from losing my legs as the inflammation had stopped blood flow. I had bloods day before and my new gp phoned me and told me to get to hospital instantly. that was april. had to learn to walk again. its going to be. along road back.  Ihad acute gout in 14 multi joints at once- which was the worst the royal liverpool had seen until some bastard came in with 15 2 weeks ago! Genuinely lucky to be alive. In hospital tomorrow for CTI scan other than that am now back with the GP

I will be going nathans at the weekend but going to a gym called trident in the week as its open 24 hours and I will be training 10-11p.m. its also close to where I live so just trying to recalibrate and find something that will work.

as I said its going to be a long road back lost a lot of muscle BUT muscle memory should be great.


onwards chaps!

[AbrahamG]

pic  of him a few years back, both he and samir are dwarfed by women bbber sharon bruneau.

I hoped they double stuffed her for old time sake. 

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't get what you're point is & why you're intent to contradict what
Jo, Dorian, & I said.

I really do not care how much someone else could take.
If they could handle 10 shots a week whoopee do for them.

 

I'm simply saying that claiming the gear today is fake because otherwise they couldn't take as much as they do is baloney You had rank beginners taking the equivalent of 30 Para a week, you know the gh15 crowd of kids, despite gh15 never recommending such. It just boggles my mind why some insist tren can't be duplicated, like it's some moon landing level type stuff to make it.

When I had my anxiety from Para I thought no way could anyone handle any quantity of tren at all without debilitating effects, I remember thinking I wouldn't give this shit to my worst enemy. It took 15 years before I dared try it again, that's how bad it was. I was in hell and praying for death. From just a couple of Para. True story.

[illuminati]

I'm simply saying that claiming the gear today is fake because otherwise they couldn't take as much as they do is baloney You had rank beginners taking the equivalent of 30 Para a week, you know the gh15 crowd of kids, despite gh15 never recommending such. It just boggles my mind why some insist tren can't be duplicated, like it's some moon landing level type stuff to make it.

When I had my anxiety from Para I thought no way could anyone handle any quantity of tren at all without debilitating effects, I remember thinking I wouldn't give this shit to my worst enemy. It took 15 years before I dared try it again, that's how bad it was. I was in hell and praying for death. From just a couple of Para. True story.

Don't accuse me of things I didn't say - I didn't say today's gear is all crap.

If you so choose to think you or anyone else could handle 10 76mg Negma Parabolan
Then Good for you.

I personally disagree.

[dj181]

If you add in some dbol is the only way you will get enough size to get the most possible adonis ratio you so badly want.

Dbol is ok because if keeps me cool

But Leo mayhofer told me not to run orals anymore

[dj181]

What was the name of that fella who trained with Mentzer after Mentzer stopped competing, he's on the youtubes still? I think he said they both took 300mg of Durabolin a day. Then he said Mentzer demanded he be driven to crack houses to buy meth.

Larry pollack but that was in the mid 80s year after. Mike quit the game

His actaul 70s cycle was...

400 deca every 10-14 days

25 dbool

So bout 400 mgs a.week. and he was 5'8 ripped 210 on stage

[dj181]

What was the name of that fella who trained with Mentzer after Mentzer stopped competing, he's on the youtubes still? I think he said they both took 300mg of Durabolin a day. Then he said Mentzer demanded he be driven to crack houses to buy meth.

And they took is eod

So bout 1000 a week

[dj181]

Ai advised my to drop.the deca down to 400 from 600 so I will

Never running any orals ever again and the only other inject ill use as Primo

Both those guys ran what j will run cept they both used VAR but like I said Leo told me to ditch the var so I will do so

Ill add primo later even if I need it