Author Topic: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place  (Read 2079 times)

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2025, 11:16:02 AM »
Shows you drugs and not stage type genetics makes a good competitior ,you can have him and another guy on same protocol or say half of what this guy takes with great genes and other guy smokes him.seen this time and time again here...

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2025, 11:19:00 AM »
I have never heard of this Dr. Mike.

I'd seen his name a few times - never read anything he's said
& he looks Fucking awful - he should keep his mouth shut.
Judging by what I'm reading in this thread he's a charlatan
& a liar as bad as Bhanky.

More fool those who are stupid enough to take any notice of
anything he says.

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #52 on: October 23, 2025, 11:38:48 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #53 on: October 23, 2025, 12:25:12 PM »
Show me an example of the most ideal optimal physique, aka the physique Bay likey the most

There is the physique I’d want for myself… Bill Davey for example.

There is the physique I’d want in a significant other… R. Lupkes, D. Poundstone, N. Best, powerlifter types.

And there are the physiques I think should be winning BB shows:

Danny https://www.instagram.com/gymdann?igsh=M2QxNjUzZXI4eXlj
Neckzilla https://www.instagram.com/neckzilla.official?igsh=MThweDh0N3ljejdldw==
Joel https://www.instagram.com/joelthomas_ifbbpro?igsh=MXdtd2k2bWJqcnFxeQ==

Dr. Mike is none of the above. :-X

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2025, 12:26:49 PM »
Is Dr. Mike Israetel funded by AIPAC?

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2025, 12:44:45 PM »
Is Dr. Mike Israetel funded by AIPAC?

Haha most likely. Being an antisemite I loved this IG post. The music  ;D

https://www.instagram.com/p/DPX69PZjYS3/?igsh=MXAybmtxeDJmMGxxbQ==qa

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2025, 12:49:44 PM »
Haha most likely. Being an antisemite I loved this IG post. The music  ;D

https://www.instagram.com/p/DPX69PZjYS3/?igsh=MXAybmtxeDJmMGxxbQ==qa

Lmao!! The music indeed makes it

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2025, 01:40:03 PM »
I saw when Dorian posted this on IG. Good.
How dare that Balluga bodied, big mouth, arrogant imposter Jew talk ill against the GENIUS MIKE MENTZER!!  MIKE MENTZER WAS A GENIUS! 
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2025, 01:48:19 PM »
we need Royalty to comment before anything is decided.

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2025, 01:53:19 PM »
What does Dorian think about Vigorous Steve Bhanky?

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2025, 01:54:08 PM »
omg that was brutal and dorian is right .


gotta love dorian for sticking up for mike

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2025, 01:57:32 PM »
another comparison


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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2025, 03:21:20 PM »
Mike on Mentzer -

https://www.youtube.com/@RenaissancePeriodization/search?query=mentzer .

On Yates, he's a fan lol -

https://www.youtube.com/@RenaissancePeriodization/search?query=yates .

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I don't like Mike, he's a lying half asser, who never did anything in powerlifting where he started, bodybuilding, or science.

Ugly clown mask* looking, closeted 'mo.

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The number of views and followers



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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2025, 03:26:34 PM »
NOBODY PUTS MIKE IN THE CORNER!!!


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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2025, 03:52:17 PM »

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2025, 03:58:04 PM »





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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2025, 04:22:30 PM »


Niɡɡa's head is a hexagon!  Never seen that before.

Also, Isratel is one smarmy, annoying, retarded son of a bitch.  His whole gimmick is looking at how other people train and going "well, ackshually....".  Basically a redditor.

He also looks like shit, is a liar, etc.  Just a completely worthless person of no value to society.

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2025, 05:24:35 PM »
I second Stephano’s response.



“Well…technically.” Nanana just SHUT UP!

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2025, 05:50:08 PM »
Niɡɡa's head is a hexagon!  Never seen that before.

Also, Isratel is one smarmy, annoying, retarded son of a bitch.  His whole gimmick is looking at how other people train and going "well, ackshually....".  Basically a redditor.

He also looks like shit, is a liar, etc.  Just a completely worthless person of no value to society.

Hahaha!

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #69 on: Today at 01:49:24 AM »
If anyone cares, Lyle on Mike on IG:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQFSfiyDHSt/


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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #70 on: Today at 02:32:45 AM »
I can't stand him. I'm surprised that a powerlifter and bodybuilder as great as Stan Efferding would quote him for training recommendations as if he were some kind of authority.

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #71 on: Today at 03:43:45 AM »
I'm an old chap so I remember Lyle going back to the early misc.fitness.weights usenet days. HE's not always a charmer but he presents stuff in detail and isn't afraid to change his view if decent studies point in a different direction, rather than the 'I have a phd you are all inferior' type of thing. Some of the volume and frequency recommendations Mike comes out with might work on a heavily juiced gifted athlete for a while but they'd burn the average trainee out in no time

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #72 on: Today at 04:42:55 AM »
If anyone cares, Lyle on Mike on IG:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQFSfiyDHSt/
Lyle is outstanding. The people who get butthurt by him typically have large egos and refuse to be wrong. You can tell Mike despises him and Lyle knows how to frazzle him. Lyle calls out Mike's nonsense and BS with facts and science.
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #73 on: Today at 04:47:21 AM »
another comparison
Mike Isratel is a delusional piece of shit and believes Mike Mentzer's diet is outdated. Mike Isratel is the scum of the earth. He compared Mike Mentzer to "a shitty car from the 1980s."
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #74 on: Today at 05:23:36 AM »
Judging the guy on the whole of his contributions, I think Isratel has been net-positive for the stuff we all like (lifting, building muscle, etc....).

Lately, a lot of content has become honey for catching flies on the youtube alogorithym, which I find insufferable (his views on AI, or psychology, for example, come across as if being authoritative, when he is not an authority on the topic). I could live without another critique of another lifter's technique as well (does nothing to advance the field).

He did popularize some interesting heuristics (maximum adaptable volume, etc...) that I think have value, if only as heuristics (I actually like heuristics in lifting, since it's literally taking mean results from studies and trying to apply them to an N=1 situations ,where a heuristic and testing it is the best one can hope for as one learns their body. Which is what we've all done here).

Still, there he's polarizing and his contributions are more for the hoi polloi. One either tires of the rhetoric and finds themself more in the "so, just lift hard and that's it? Christ, shut up man!" camp (which is ridiculously true). Or, you find yourself seeking more informed voices (I happen to like Pelland, Trexler, Helms, in these regards, who try a bit harder to add something sensical to the average lifters lifestyle).

Helms & Trexler, for me in particular, do a good job of prioritizing the effect-sizes of hypertrophy and strength tactics. Rather than youtubing their way through whatever trends, they stick to reminding folks about what really works, and how do avoid getting lost in the  weeds of trends that don't create a meaningful effect size on hypertrophy or strength for the average lifter to care (even if a study shows "statistical significance").

Holy shit surprise summary for all this bullshit - design your training so that you're doing enough sets for the muscles you want to grow, train really hard when you do those sets, track your progress to ensure you're progressively overloading (by adding a rep or weight or even eventually a set). That's it. The rest is nuanced shit we all monkey around with when we get bored. That "when we get bored" mentality is what's spawned the entire social media universe; the fact that man is mostly powerless to resist the Novelty Bias and the Recency Bias.

As for Lyle, I think he's had some net positives too. But I find his meanderings to be insufferable; I just can't listen to 40 minutes of him attacking someone/thing, to listen for that nugget of insight (and I know its there...I just can't bring myself emotionally to listen to a rant. And yes, I realize the irony that my posts on getbig are long and come across as rants).