If Haney had returned in '92...

[Royalty]

The interesting question is if Yates never pursued bodybuilding how would Levrone & Wheeler do against Haney?

ND as you know, Lee Haney raised Levrone’s arm after he was announced the overall winner of the 1991 Nationals.   Shortly afterwards, Haney said that Levrone was the future of the sport.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND as you know, Lee Haney raised Levrone’s arm after he was announced the overall winner of the 1991 Nationals.   Shortly afterwards, Haney said that Levrone was the future of the sport.

[Royalty]

There it is.  I remember when that pic was in the magazine. That was about 6 weeks after the 1991 Mr Olympia.


I believe: the threat of Yates, and the potential of Levrone, were factored into Haney’s decision to retire.

[Van_Bilderass]

Haney was just at the cusp of the high dose GH plus insulin plus high test revolution.
If he'd had a madman like Chad circa 95-00 advising him for 93 he could have added considerable muscle I think. The products were there but like the GH still wasn't used at optimal amounts, very expensive too. Then the Genotropin started flowing in Europe and guys like Yates took advantage.

Haney was a magical physique to me as a kid. Down to his skin texture, he projected uniquely.

[Grape Ape]

Haney was just at the cusp of the high dose GH plus insulin plus high test revolution.
If he'd had a madman like Chad circa 95-00 advising him for 93 he could have added considerable muscle I think. The products were there but like the GH still wasn't used at optimal amounts, very expensive too. Then the Genotropin started flowing in Europe and guys like Yates took advantage.

Haney was a magical physique to me as a kid. Down to his skin texture, he projected uniquely.

I remember him specifically saying there were places he was not willing to go, and I believe it was determined at the time he was referring to insulin.  So this all makes sense.

[Royalty]

Haney was just at the cusp of the high dose GH plus insulin plus high test revolution.
If he'd had a madman like Chad circa 95-00 advising him for 93 he could have added considerable muscle I think. The products were there but like the GH still wasn't used at optimal amounts, very expensive too. Then the Genotropin started flowing in Europe and guys like Yates took advantage.

Haney was a magical physique to me as a kid. Down to his skin texture, he projected uniquely.

This may, or may not be true....

Yates said in an interview that he didn’t use insulin until 1997 (his final year)

In 1997 he was about 20lbs heavier than he was in 1996.

It’s just unfortunate that Yates tore his tricep during the prep for the 1997 Olympia.

Ronnie Coleman said that Yates would’ve won in 1998 if Yates had competed. But seriously, Yates had damage to his left bicep and to his left tricep. Dorian probably would’ve had a significant injury heading into the 1998 show (torn lat or a torn pec).

Yates was smart to step away when he did.

[njflex]

This may, or may not be true....

Yates said in an interview that he didn’t use insulin until 1997 (his final year)

In 1997 he was about 20lbs heavier than he was in 1996.

It’s just unfortunate that Yates tore his tricep during the prep for the 1997 Olympia.

Ronnie Coleman said that Yates would’ve won in 1998 if Yates had competed. But seriously, Yates had damage to his left bicep and to his left tricep. Dorian probably would’ve had a significant injury heading into the 1998 show (torn lat or a torn pec).

Yates was smart to step away when he did.

YATES WAIST LOOKED BIGGER DUE TO IT 97..

[Humble Narcissist]

I remember him specifically saying there were places he was not willing to go, and I believe it was determined at the time he was referring to insulin.  So this all makes sense.

Haney was smart which is why he is still healthy and looks good today. Yates and Coleman not so much.

[obsidian]

Haney was smart which is why he is still healthy and looks good today. Yates and Coleman not so much.

Yates is still healthy - last time I checked.

[Bevo]

Let´s not forget people like Haney & Dorian competed against a field of top Bodybuilders, Arnold won at least one Olympia because no one else was present! or it was just a few people

In all fairness Bhanky competed with just one person in the line up

Not his fault no one showed up

[Bevo]

I remember him specifically saying there were places he was not willing to go, and I believe it was determined at the time he was referring to insulin.  So this all makes sense.

I’m pretty sure Haney meant G4P and not insulin

[Humble Narcissist]

Yates is still healthy - last time I checked.

He looks like shit though. Half his body is torn muscles.

[Van_Bilderass]

I remember him specifically saying there were places he was not willing to go, and I believe it was determined at the time he was referring to insulin.  So this all makes sense.

The effective insulin use really only began in like 94 with Milos. I think he was just giving an excuse as to why not go on, "the sport's just got crazy!" I think he made the perfect choice on when to retire. Insulin btw would have been the least deleterious part of a stack. Yates blamed it for his waist in 97 though but I don't know what he did exactly. Ronnie's waist got way out of control and he used insulin for several years, but getbiggers now look back and admire him despite the gut.

[38 returns]

HOLD ON BECKLES HAD AN INSULIN issue in about 89

[Donny]

 

[Zillotch]

Haney was a magical physique to me as a kid. Down to his skin texture, he projected uniquely.

his muscle popped, really jumped off the bone… top tier structure.

there was also a compact/dense/dynamic quality about his musculature that suggested function - projecting the appearance of actual athleticism - if not super human ability.

that kind of thing captures the imagination...

[obsidian]

his muscle popped, really jumped off the bone… top tier structure.

there was also a compact/dense/dynamic quality about his musculature that suggested function - projecting the appearance of actual athleticism - if not super human ability.

that kind of thing captures the imagination...

Great shot - if that's not photoshopped!

[Royalty]

his muscle popped, really jumped off the bone… top tier structure.

there was also a compact/dense/dynamic quality about his musculature that suggested function - projecting the appearance of actual athleticism - if not super human ability.

that kind of thing captures the imagination...

Thankfully Zillotch... just like his other worthless accounts...  is here to EXPLAIN Lee Haney’s physique to us 

Not a single original thought ever comes out of the loser’s brain.

[Royalty]

I see a lot of people saying Lee could have come back for a ninth win in 1992.

Maybe, but I disagree with their reasoning.  They say shit like, "Oh, Haney would have come in even bigger" and the like.

That makes no sense to me.  Lee tried competing in the high 250s in 88 or 89, and he was criticized for losing definition.

Dorian beat Lee in the muscularity round in 91.  So, Haney was magically going to get back to well over 250 and get way more cut to win in 92, after many years of coming in with roughly the same form?

Doz added maybe five pounds of stage weight for 92, but he was arguably leaner than before, and lost muscle to achieve that condition.  He knew no top guy could match his size (242ish?), but he also wanted to be sure he was shredded beyond even the likes of smaller guys like Levrone, Ray, Taylor and Labrada.  Had he known Haney was coming back, he could have retained roughly comparable condition but not dieted off the mass needed to match Lee at 248-250.

Thoughts, apart from how I'm a thong-sniffing schmoe?   (I'm really not, apart from Tuesday evenings.  That's when I set up my shrine to Ken Sprague and that big, tattooed guy who recently died, Chris Duffy.  At least, I think he died?)

This thread was started because this bum named “Titus Pullo” saw that ND and I were having an intelligent conversation about Haney and Yates (in other thread)


This “Titus Pullo” moron decided to make his own long-winded thread. 

Of course he completely checked out after he made the thread. He just vanished. He doesn’t have anything to say or add since then.

The empty person behind that account just recycles information that he reads from me, ND, or other knowledgeable bodybuilding people.

[pamith]

I feel like just like Arnold, Haney wanted to retire because years of steroid abuse can't be good for your health, that's why they retire

[illuminati]

IF Lee had competed in 92 Dorian would've Likely beaten him.
And Lee knew it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Haney throwing shade in a round about way towards Phil Heath