Author Topic: Experiencing crisis of faith and lack of motivation to pursue my bible studies  (Read 8205 times)

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Can anyone address points 2 and 3? I feel we are most addressing point 1 and the other 2 points are more important

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Anyway most religions are all about taking your money..........I remember as a kid we had a dime or a quarter in an envelope to give at Mass while the pedofile priests drove Caddys and we had a beat up old Chevy and paid $60.00 a month to live in the hood with a drunken woman beater who terrorized us.......they should have been paying us.

Religion >>> Organized religion

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True for a Christian.

Not necessarily. It is assumed you are aware of what the old testament teaches. That's why Jesus said "have you not read?... " while referring to OT scripture several times.

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I never once read the Bible and I went to Catholic School at least until they threw me out.

Anyway most religions are all about taking your money..........I remember as a kid we had a dime or a quarter in an envelope to give at Mass while the pedofile priests drove Caddys and we had a beat up old Chevy and paid $60.00 a month to live in the hood with a drunken woman beater who terrorized us.......they should have been paying us.

Faith is key when it comes to God all we have is blind faith and which gives us hope..........after all none of us have ever seen God except Hendrix,Greg Allman,Benny Hinn,Jimmy Swaggart,Billy Graham,Jim and Tammy Baker,Carlos Santana,Stevie Wonder, and Elvis!!

It was this very board that stopped me from believing in God, but after having 7-8 encounters with "The Grim Reaper" I came to realize that God was watching over me all my life as it wasn`t  a picnic for the kid, and yes I know tons of people who had it harder than me but fuck them,in essence I`m all I got......I wasn`t lucky enough to dodge as many bullets as I have in my lifetime so I attribute it to God watching over me and having bigger things in store for me................I used to say like "yeah like more suffering" but not anymore.

Throw away the fucking Bible it is only guidelines and examples for us to live by and some are pretty heinous at that.

My philosophy on life is to always try to do the next right thing,help people out when possible,treat people as you would want to be treated,try to keep an inner peace as nothing is actually truly controllable and tomorrow is promised to no one..........walk a righteous path like the dude on "Kung Fu" !  ;)   ;D

Seriously,just endeavor to be a good person and talk to God, do not use formal prayers just talk to him one on one.........I ask him for strength,inner peace,and to help people I care about, especially who are sick and/or suffering.............AN D never take any shit from anyone win,lose,or fucking draw..........fuck that "turn the other cheek" bullshit !!!

Be more spiritual than religious.

PS....."unwieldy"....you`re a total bald headed fag!   :)

You are making up your own religion.

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Praise God

Exult, ye righteous, in Jehovah: praise is comely for the upright. Give thanks unto Jehovah with the harp; sing psalms unto him with the ten-stringed lute. Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud sound. For the word of Jehovah is right, and all his work is in faithfulness. He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the loving-kindness of Jehovah. By the word of Jehovah were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as a heap; he layeth up the deeps in storehouses. Let all the earth fear Jehovah; let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spoke, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast. Jehovah frustrateth the counsel of the nations; he maketh the thoughts of the peoples of none effect. The counsel of Jehovah standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart from generation to generation. Blessed is the nation whose God is Jehovah, the people that he hath chosen for his inheritance! Jehovah looketh from the heavens; he beholdeth all the sons of men: From the place of his habitation he looketh forth upon all the inhabitants of the earth; He who fashioneth the hearts of them all, who considereth all their works. The king is not saved by the multitude of his forces; a mighty man is not delivered by much strength. The horse is a vain thing for safety; neither doth he deliver by his great power. Behold, the eye of Jehovah is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his loving-kindness, to deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine. Our soul waiteth for Jehovah: he is our help and our shield. For in him shall our heart rejoice, because we have confided in his holy name. Let thy loving-kindness, O Jehovah, be upon us, according as we have hoped in thee.

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Exult, ye righteous, in Jehovah: praise is comely for the upright. Give thanks unto Jehovah with the harp; sing psalms unto him with the ten-stringed lute. Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud sound. For the word of Jehovah is right, and all his work is in faithfulness. He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the loving-kindness of Jehovah. By the word of Jehovah were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as a heap; he layeth up the deeps in storehouses. Let all the earth fear Jehovah; let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spoke, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast. Jehovah frustrateth the counsel of the nations; he maketh the thoughts of the peoples of none effect. The counsel of Jehovah standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart from generation to generation. Blessed is the nation whose God is Jehovah, the people that he hath chosen for his inheritance! Jehovah looketh from the heavens; he beholdeth all the sons of men: From the place of his habitation he looketh forth upon all the inhabitants of the earth; He who fashioneth the hearts of them all, who considereth all their works. The king is not saved by the multitude of his forces; a mighty man is not delivered by much strength. The horse is a vain thing for safety; neither doth he deliver by his great power. Behold, the eye of Jehovah is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his loving-kindness, to deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine. Our soul waiteth for Jehovah: he is our help and our shield. For in him shall our heart rejoice, because we have confided in his holy name. Let thy loving-kindness, O Jehovah, be upon us, according as we have hoped in thee.

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You are making up your own religion.
I`s not a religion,it`s a philosophy I choose to live by..... plus someone made yours up you idiot, and you`re all stressed about it,while I`m cool with my beliefs.

you will never attain inner peace !!

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Exult, ye righteous, in Jehovah: praise is comely for the upright. Give thanks unto Jehovah with the harp; sing psalms unto him with the ten-stringed lute. Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud sound. For the word of Jehovah is right, and all his work is in faithfulness. He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the loving-kindness of Jehovah. By the word of Jehovah were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as a heap; he layeth up the deeps in storehouses. Let all the earth fear Jehovah; let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spoke, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast. Jehovah frustrateth the counsel of the nations; he maketh the thoughts of the peoples of none effect. The counsel of Jehovah standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart from generation to generation. Blessed is the nation whose God is Jehovah, the people that he hath chosen for his inheritance! Jehovah looketh from the heavens; he beholdeth all the sons of men: From the place of his habitation he looketh forth upon all the inhabitants of the earth; He who fashioneth the hearts of them all, who considereth all their works. The king is not saved by the multitude of his forces; a mighty man is not delivered by much strength. The horse is a vain thing for safety; neither doth he deliver by his great power. Behold, the eye of Jehovah is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his loving-kindness, to deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine. Our soul waiteth for Jehovah: he is our help and our shield. For in him shall our heart rejoice, because we have confided in his holy name. Let thy loving-kindness, O Jehovah, be upon us, according as we have hoped in thee.
wall of text........ever hear of paragraphs genius ???

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Ill always and forever say "religion is a crutch for the weak"
I tried it once seemed so hokey
Live each day by your own rules and philosophy

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Ill always and forever say "religion is a crutch for the weak"
I tried it once seemed so hokey
Live each day by your own rules and philosophy
My nikka !!

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Not necessarily. It is assumed you are aware of what the old testament teaches. That's why Jesus said "have you not read?... " while referring to OT scripture several times.
Don`t U have a limp dick to suck soon ???

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Obey the Sky Wizard.



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Obey the Sky Wizard.



God doesn`t live in the sky,he lives in the hearts of righteouse people.  ;)

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Nobody can prove or dispute that he doesn`t exist in some form.......nobody.

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I`s not a religion,it`s a philosophy I choose to live by..... plus someone made yours up you idiot, and you`re all stressed about it,while I`m cool with my beliefs.

you will never attain inner peace !!

Possessed, you need help.

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Possessed, you need help.

What are you when you fly in to a rage over your wife's mess or when you imagine fucking those whores?

Take the plank out of your own eye first.

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What are you when you fly in to a rage over your wife's mess or when you imagine fucking those whores?

Take the plank out of your own eye first.

Stfu piece of shit

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I always liked Plotinus' approach. According to him, the intelligible world is composed of three hypostases or substances: the One, Intelligence, and the Soul:

The One: This is the supreme reality, the God of Plotinus. It is not knowledge, since knowledge requires both a knowing subject and an object known.....thus two terms, but it is also not Being itself, rather the source of Being. Plotinus also calls it the Good or the First. Nothing can truly be said about the One (except that it is One); at most, one can only describe what it is not. Yet it is what ensures the cohesion of all things. It is the source of everything. It desires nothing (for desire implies lack, and it is fullness), but because it is perfect/a sublime generosity. It tends to generate other beings that emanate from it.

Intelligence (the Spirit, Being): This is Plato’s intelligible being. It is unity multiplied in the sense that there are multiple Ideas, but together these Ideas form a unified whole. Intelligence is the principle of all justice, all virtue, all beauty. It makes reality coherent and harmonious. Intelligence contemplates the One and generates the third hypostasis.

The Soul: It is the mediation between Intelligence, from which it proceeds, and the sensible world, which emanates from it. The Soul is a kind of movement, but a logical, rational, organizing movement. It creates an ordered world and divides into individual souls (those of humans, animals, and plants). The human soul is therefore a fragment of this Soul generated by Intelligence contemplating the One. In other words, each soul is a fragment of God, meaning that God is present within each of us. The material world is the final point of divine diffusion.

There is a kind of back-and-forth movement between the summit and the base. Each hypostasis generates downward by emanation. Plotinus calls procession the process by which Intelligence proceeds from the One, the Soul proceeds from Intelligence, and the world proceeds from the Soul. The One disperses and gradually becomes obscured into the multiple. But at the same time, each element (except, of course, the One) turns back toward its principle, contemplating upward, a movement Plotinus calls conversion. Thus, the goal of each element is to regain Unity, to be enlightened. The goal of the human soul, which has fallen into the darkness of the body and of evil, is to ascend to the first principle, to the One. We must strive to know it, to merge with it. For this, one must renounce the life of the senses and reach the ecstasy in which the individual is united with God. The love of beauty and philosophy are means of attaining this ecstasy.


If interested, I strongly recommend reading "Enneads" (a collection of 54 treatises compiled by his disciple Porphyry) along with other OG Greek philosophers’ works.

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Sounds similar to Indian philosophy. I resonate besides deeming the body and senses as something fallen which creates a duality, something to get away from.

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Stfu piece of shit

Work on your comebacks they have been tripe lately.

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Work on your comebacks they have been tripe lately.
His comebacks are as lame as his long winded but saying very little/nothing posts.   :(

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Possessed, you need help.
HUH  ???

I`m possessed by the grace and forgiveness of God...........you are possessed by a book that you don`t even know  the author of............could it be Simon & Schuster maybe?  ;D