OFFICIAL SUPERBOWL LX THREAD - 02-08-26

[beakdoctor]

So, is this game still going on?

Did one of the teams win the game yet or are they still playing football?

[mphgrove]

Half time show was a fucking disgrace. This is AMERICAN football!

It’s all about profitability for the owners. The NFL wants to take American football overseas (very similar by the way to what IFBB/NPC has been very successful at doing lately, not that the NFL gives two shits about the IFBB). Also, huge markets like Los Angeles have millions and millions of residents here at home who are Hispanic, and they watch “American” football WAY LESS than Whites and Blacks do. They want to bring those people in. The owners probably lean Republican, but the dollar drives them.

[robcguns]

I’m so happy the patriots lost. All the pussies crying about it tomorrow as I laugh in their pathetic faces. Grow up you fucking Mary’s.

[Ron]

Half time show was a fucking disgrace. This is AMERICAN football!

Watched the game while working on projects.  This game was dreadfully boring, the Seahawks dominated from the beginning, making the Patriots look like a high school team.  Too many lost interest very quickly.  it was a very frustrating game to watch, didnt care who won, just wanted a good game to watch. Didn't watch too many commercials either, except the Dunking Donut one, which I thought was the most fun commercial of the night.

Halftime show featuring Bad Bunny, Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin was entertaining.  He did a good job, aka all in Spanish, but who cares. Lady Gaga sang in English.  NFL wants an international audience, and probably succeeded a little in getting more people to watch, aka almost 10 million dollars a commercial. Damn.   The Turning Point show, albeit live, was more like a concert arena, which will watch more of it later on, but Bad Bunny is the top most streamed singer in the world right now, and the 6th in the US.  Can't complain on that.   I find it funny that people are saying just because he is Puerto Rican, he isn't American.  He is an American Citizent, to those who do not know geography.

[mphgrove]

Don’t disagree with any of that but here’s one thing to point out. Bad Bunny is on record as being in favor of Puerto Rico separating from the US (full independence, not statehood). That would “unmake” him a citizen.

[Ron]

That is true.   Either the US makes Puerto Rico a state or lets them run a referendum to become their own 'country' if they wish.  At the moment, he is a US Citizen.  What happens in 5 or 10 years is a different story if they become separate.  They can choose if they pass a referendum, but that is a whole different can of political worms.  They can't vote in US elections, but they do vote on their own local self government.

Also, pretty sure the Super Bowl has had quite a few non-Americans playing at the half time show in the past.
 

[Humble Narcissist]

They have to get the commercials in.
A zillion of them.

Twice as many for the Super Bowl. I watched the Olympics instead.

[mphgrove]

That is true.   Either the US makes Puerto Rico a state or lets them run a referendum to become their own 'country' if they wish.  At the moment, he is a US Citizen.  What happens in 5 or 10 years is a different story if they become separate.  They can choose if they pass a referendum, but that is a whole different can of political worms.  They can't vote in US elections, but they do vote on their own local self government.

Also, pretty sure the Super Bowl has had quite a few non-Americans playing at the half time show in the past.

My understanding is that full independence and US statehood (like Hawaii) are the least two popular options right now. Independence: (no Medicare? no hurricane help? no freely flying back and forth). Statehood: (lose our unique Spanish language culture? - Bad Bunny himself would be a good example of that risk). Most Puerto Ricans like it just the way it is and has been, in other words “please let’s just do nothing. It’s actually very nice being citizens, and boy are the Mexicans jealous”. But of course that can change, and someone like him certainly will influence the younger generation.

[Grape Ape]

My understanding is that full independence and US statehood (like Hawaii) are the least two popular options right now. Independence: (no Medicare? no hurricane help? no freely flying back and forth). Statehood: (lose our unique Spanish language culture? - Bad Bunny himself would be a good example of that risk). Most Puerto Ricans like it just the way it is and has been, in other words “please let’s just do nothing.” But of course that can change, and someone like him certainly will influence the younger generation.

Why would they lose their culture if they became a state?

[mphgrove]

Why would they lose their culture if they became a state?

Language more than anything, at least that’s their fear. Hawaii became a state around 1958/60 (I forget exactly). Now everybody young in Hawaii pretty much speaks English.

[Grape Ape]

Language more than anything, at least that’s their fear. Hawaii became a state around 1958/60 (I forget exactly). Now everybody young in Hawaii pretty much speaks English.

We can't even get a lot of the immigrants here to speak English.

PR would be fine.

And, if their kids learned a second language, it's not a bad thing.

[mphgrove]

We can't even get a lot of the immigrants here to speak English.

PR would be fine.

And, if their kids learned a second language, it's not a bad thing.

I don’t disagree. I am not Puerto Rican, but if I were from there, I would favor statehood. But it is true that our “American” culture does impact the younger generation eventually (not saying good or bad). If I were a Puerto Rican grandfather attached to the history of the island and wanting my grandchildren to remain attached to the Spanish language , I would want “status quo”.

[Grape Ape]

I don’t disagree. I am not Puerto Rican, but if I were from there, I would favor statehood. But it is true that our “American” culture does impact the younger generation eventually (not saying good or bad). If I were a Puerto Rican grandfather attached to the history of the island and wanting my grandchildren to remain attached to the Spanish language , I would want “status quo”.

I do completely understand that perspective, I just feel their worries are a bit overblown.  I don't see anywhere near a full transformation from a culture that feels that strongly about their heritage.

[mphgrove]

I do completely understand that perspective, I just feel their worries are a bit overblown.  I don't see anywhere near a full transformation from a culture that feels that strongly about their heritage.

I disagree. I live in an area where there are lots of ex-Germans (way back), ex-Irish (pretty far back), current Greeks, current Palestinians, current Mexicans, etc. Eventually the younger generations lose it. The German restaurants are mostly all gone, the Irish kind of hang on but not really, and the young Palestinian girls still have to wear their headscarves because their fathers make them do that, but they speak English just like everybody else. Lots of youngsters of Mexican heritage don’t know how to speak more than a few phrases of Spanish.

[Grape Ape]

I disagree. I live in an area where there are lots of ex-Germans (way back), ex-Irish (pretty far back), current Greeks, current Palestinians, current Mexicans, etc. Eventually the younger generations lose it. The German restaurants are mostly all gone, the Irish kind of hang on but not really, and the young Palestinian girls still have to wear their headscarves because their fathers make them do that, but they speak English just like everybody else. Lots of youngsters of Mexican heritage don’t know how to speak more than a few phrases of Spanish.

If they move physically, yes the chances of that happening are greater.

Folks in PR would not be relocating, so the risk of this only increases with mass immigration from non-hispanics.

But let's not get away from the fact that the Pats were exposed completely, and showed that maybe having the third easiest schedule in NFL history, and the easiest path to the SB, just MIGHT have made them appear to be a tad better than they were.

[mphgrove]

If they move physically, yes the chances of that happening are greater.

Folks in PR would not be relocating, so the risk of this only increases with mass immigration from non-hispanics.

But let's not get away from the fact that the Pats were exposed completely, and showed that maybe having the third easiest schedule in NFL history, and the easiest path to the SB, just MIGHT have made them appear to be a tad better than they were.

Yeah you have a point on them staying put, less likely to lose their language. And on the Patriots too.

[wes]

 

[Rambone]

I’m so happy the patriots lost. All the pussies crying about it tomorrow as I laugh in their pathetic faces. Grow up you fucking Mary’s.

[MajorDomo]

The Superbowl was a joke. For the longest time it looked like it was the "Seahawk kicker's bowl"

So i tried watching the Olympics on replay. They suck too. I am quite happy Lindsey Vonn crashed though. That was entertaining.

I finally decided on watching one of my  James Bond DVDs 

[deadz]

 

No doubt more entertaining.

[King Shizzo]

If they move physically, yes the chances of that happening are greater.

Folks in PR would not be relocating, so the risk of this only increases with mass immigration from non-hispanics.

But let's not get away from the fact that the Pats were exposed completely, and showed that maybe having the third easiest schedule in NFL history, and the easiest path to the SB, just MIGHT have made them appear to be a tad better than they were.

The Pats defense played great for most of the game. The offensive line was putrid and the current Seahawks D, played every bit as dominant as the "Legion of Boom" did.

For as good of a pick/player as Christian Gonzales is at corner, we might have just a big of a bust pick, with first round pick, offensive lineman, Will Cambell. Dude was getting manhandled like he was in the WWE Royal Rumble....

[King Shizzo]

I would also like to add the the Patriots wayyyy overachieved this season. They were 14-3, won the division, and made it to the Superbowl.

Most Patriots fans would have been satisfied with a 9-8 records.

More proof of why I love football. No chance in he'll I would have picked the Patriots to make the Superbowl. That's why they play the games....

Hey Grape, if the Giants stay healthy next year, maybe they can make a similar run.

[Rambone]

Shizzo desperately scrambling and trying to turn a loss into a win here……

 

[Kwon]

I heard the Halftime-show was shit