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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3750 on: September 09, 2026, 02:22:33 PM »
All this bragging about how we won the war in one day, one week, 83 times in the first month....   and now the Ass Yam has started saying "WHEN we win this war..."     Two months from now it will probably be "IF we win this war..."

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3751 on: September 09, 2026, 03:16:05 PM »
Putin goes limp and you defend him, but you attack Trump. Why aren't you whining about the jews controlling Putin?

Do you think your local mosque is going to hide you when the jews come to take you away in your wheelchair to kiss the wall? :D

I know Putin was at the wall too if I remember correctly and he's met the same type of fucking rabbis that Trump does. I mean my posts get extremely long as it is so I didn't go into what I think on a grander scale LOL. All I was saying to obsidian was that his approach might not be stupid. I could go into why I think so but who will read it you know. You said no ne does. Dudes are probably mad because their fingers get tired from the scrolling :D

Regarding what you said about the military not exactly being happy with their mission, that it's standard, I just watched a clip with Delta Force John 'Shrek' McPhee and he said he knew Iran and Afghanistan were failed missions when he signed up, it was total fucking waste of time, we should never have gone there "like when have we ever done this well? Saddam kept Iran in check, didn't he? BUT I had the fucking time of my life fucking shit up!" So yeah, soldiers soldier and shouldn't ask questions, that's not their role and few Iran war critics are mad at the soldiers themselves. At the same time it does help morale if a war feels very justified, for example protecting the homeland from a real threat.

Meme central...right on cue and clueless as ever. Over memed, under read, full of conspiracy theories and nonsense

Fuck man, who here do you think thinks you read? I've asked you several times for what you think is good reading material. OK you mentioned one media source: PragerU. I have also asked you to define 'conspiracy theory.' So tell me, also tell me how to spot a 'conspiracy theory.' I don't like to be fooled by nonsense and you could help me.

I'm way less of a meme central than you. BTW Trump is a fucking meme machine with all those AI pics and AI cartoons. Is that what you call being serious and not a conspiracy theorist? I could list dozens of ridiculous, on the face of it, conspiracy theories he's spread, totally knowing they're absolute bullshit. If I put up something serious you complain that I'm insecure because I don't give one word answers and you don't like to read long things in general so you should be thankful for 'memetic' (I'm searching for the right term here LOL) posts. I know I'm asking for the impossible here but you could explain why something I post is just meme-nonsense. Jews having tribal agendas and disproportionate and harmful influence is a conspiracy theory (that every fucking US president has believed) but Hamas and the IRGC and communists taking over the US is fucking real? You well read and tightly reasoned? Yeah everyone here sure agrees.

Fuck, I go on for way too long for your sorry ass.

Apologies for the scrolling fellas.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3752 on: September 09, 2026, 03:33:06 PM »
All this bragging about how we won the war in one day, one week, 83 times in the first month....   and now the Ass Yam has started saying "WHEN we win this war..."     Two months from now it will probably be "IF we win this war..."

I said earlier I noticed he's now said "we mostly control the Strait." Fucking mostly, really? It used to be we have have complete fucking control. And it used to be Iran isn't even firing at us anymore. Funny dude. I saw a CNN story about building activity at Pickaxe mountain. Planted propaganda with an agenda in my opinion. Could the agenda be that this could be a face saving exit for Trump? Bomb Pickaxe and then declare we have totally destroyed their nuculars so now we can leave? I believe Trump wants to leave but now it's like you can't win and you can't lose, gotta come up with something.

Meanwhile the Pentagon thinks the US will have to "mow the grass" (Israeli term) periodically for a prolonged period of time because Iran just keeps reconstituting during lulls.

I have some memes for Coach. The conspiracy theorist fake news meme media reported a fake news story about a top secret Pentagon report, that totally doesn't exist, about their assessment on the Iran war and how it affects general US military readiness in the world and the Pentagon response was this. Meme-ing and conspiracy theorizing hard here.


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3753 on: September 09, 2026, 04:08:01 PM »
lol..so you don't think we need Israel and Israel doesn't need us? My research doesn't include conspiracy theories
Isreal needs us, 100%, no way do we need isreal.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3754 on: September 09, 2026, 04:14:07 PM »
Isreal needs us, 100%, no way do we need isreal.

Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3755 on: September 09, 2026, 04:18:04 PM »
Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.
Don't believe it. What reason would we need them? We have several other countries we can and do use for military positioning.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3756 on: September 09, 2026, 07:04:02 PM »
Don't believe it. What reason would we need them? We have several other countries we can and do use for military positioning.

True, but they can't match Israels intelligence especially on the ground at the very least. Aside from their intelligence on the ground that we benefit from it goes deeper than just military. Read this transcript from a source I follow. This is just a short summary....

A growing chorus of voices—from the American left and right—now calls Israel “a liability.”

They say it's time to walk away.

They call this "foreign policy realism."

In fact, it's the opposite.

Israel remains America’s indispensable ally.

Here are five reasons why.

One: The Neighborhood

In geopolitics, as in real estate, three considerations are paramount: location, location, location.

The Middle East holds 48% of the world’s oil reserves and produces nearly a third of its supply.

Some assert that renewables are making oil irrelevant. Not in our lifetimes.

Oil fuels industries. Oil fuels militaries. And oil is priced globally.

Shocks in the Middle East hit the U.S. economy—directly.

Others say America’s own energy boom makes the region irrelevant. That is shortsighted.

What happens in the Middle East doesn’t stay in the Middle East. It moves markets, shakes alliances, and draws in hostile powers.

He who controls the Middle East controls the crossroads of the global economy.

Israel is America’s fortress at that crossroads.

Two: Containing Iran

Critics claim that Israel entangles America with Iran.

This is a profound misunderstanding.

Since its birth in 1979, the Islamic Republic has branded America the “Great Satan” and Israel the “Little Satan.”

Everything Iran does, it does with that order in mind.

To get to the U.S., Iran has to deal with Israel first.

That’s why we, in the interest of our own security, must ensure that Israel has what it needs militarily.

Israel is our front line of defense.

If that bulwark is compromised, Iran will move on to its main targets—dominating the energy resources of the Gulf, and challenging America.

They already have missiles capable of reaching Europe.

Shipping those missiles to Iran’s ally Venezuela would put the Iranians in range of the U.S.—like Soviet missiles in Cuba in 1962, an intolerable threat.

Nuclear weapons in the hands of a terrorist state is not a threat only to Israel.

It’s a threat to us.

Three: Projecting Force

Israel might be small (about the size of New Jersey), but it’s lethal. And it fights.

We can’t say that about many of our allies.

All talk a good game, but few are willing to put their words into action.

Israel is different.

It spends at least 5% of its GDP on defense. The U.S. spends 3.4%.

Many of our NATO allies are struggling to spend 2%. Canada spends 1.3%.

Israel’s air force flies more combat missions annually than NATO’s Western European members combined.

From generals to conscripts, its soldiers are combat-tested.

And they don’t ask others to do their fighting for them.

“Give us the tools, and we’ll finish the job,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said.

As the world has seen, that’s not an idle boast.

In a crisis, we want that kind of ally on our side.

Four: Intelligence Gathering

Israel’s intelligence service, Mossad, is unmatched in daring and results.

In 2018, it raided Iran’s nuclear archive—in Tehran.

In 2024, it launched Operation Grim Beeper, detonating Hezbollah pagers and crippling thousands of terrorists.

These operations revealed deep penetration of both Iran and its proxies.

The U.S. is excellent at gathering and processing intelligence data.

So is Israel.

But when it comes to human intelligence—information from people in positions of personal knowledge—Israel has no peer.

When the U.S. needs eyes on the ground, ears in the room, or insight into the minds of our adversaries, we often turn to Israel.

To say that without Israel the U.S. would be blind in the Middle East would be an exaggeration—but not by much.

Five: Geopolitical Consequences

If the U.S. were to abandon Israel, it would trigger a cascade of disasters.

First, it would signal to every American ally that U.S. commitments are worthless.

Second, it would create a power vacuum in the Middle East that China, Russia, and Iran—all of whom want to bring America down—would eagerly fill.

Third, it would force Israel to seek new partners—likely including China.

This isn’t hypothetical.

Beijing is already courting Gulf allies of the U.S.—investing in high-tech firms and infrastructure, and testing the limits of cooperation with America. Israel is also on Beijing’s shopping list.

Push Israel away, and China will welcome it.

A Chinese-Israeli technological partnership would be a nightmare for America—combining Israeli innovation with Chinese scale.

America’s alliance with Israel is not sentimental—it’s strategic.

While Israel benefits from American support, America benefits from Israel’s considerable capabilities.

In the Middle East, no ally is stronger, more dependable, or more aligned with American interests than Israel.

When America's critics call Israel a liability, they're not practicing realism—they're advocating retreat.

In the face of a rising China, and with Iran on the brink of going nuclear, retreat isn't realistic.

It’s reckless.

And consider this: Do we really want to contemplate abandoning a fellow democracy—a nation that shares our values, and is the source of our own heritage?

What kind of America would we be if we did that?

I’m Michael Doran, Senior Fellow and Director of the Middle East Center at the Hudson Institute

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3757 on: September 09, 2026, 07:41:35 PM »
Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.

No way.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3758 on: September 09, 2026, 11:29:47 PM »
Believe it or not we need them just as much as they need us.

We don't need them at all.  Period.  Without us, they are toast.  Rightfully so too given how they've behaved in their 80 years of existence.