2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[Grape Ape]

Just a shame that he lost his way, it's very hard in modern times for conservative governments to get elected there are too many people dependant on government for democracy to continue to be an impartial system. A fairer system would be that only those contributing in tax dollars or retired long term taxpayers are allowed to vote. It's bad enough having the entire unproductive public servant or government class always voting for their democrat left type government paymasters without all the other welfare freeloaders having their votes bought as well. Trump really someone who was popular enough to overcome some of those obstacles and he started so well with anti woke agenda, America first, no more wars. Then the machine or deep state got hold of him he sacks Musk effecting retiring ever balancing the budget or demonstrating responsible financial management and then picks a fight with anyone and everyone. Power corrupts especially those not smart enough to realise it's happening and even worse he surrounds himself with yes men idiots, you challenge your sacked. Basically handing back the gavel of government to the democrats. At least he made himself rich again I guess, rather than America great again.

A two month conflict does not mean were are entering a 'forever war'.....we are trying to end one.

And, anything relating to reversing China's 100-150 year long game plan of domination is going to be painful.

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[Necrosis]

I am posting about "Katie Johnson".

I can't tell yours because you don't post data or sources, and you just claim things are "proven".

And I will always defend against mis/disinformation, and/or accusations without proof.

Did you read about the Duke lacrosse team yet?

I did post, I assumed you were up on things. I shouldn't have. Not sure why you would respond when its clear that I am not talking about Katie Johnson. Were her interviews hidden recently? what part of my post gave you the impression it was her?

I just posted the link above.

I always post things that require proof. What did I state that's untrue?

Did epstein not say they were best friends for a decade?
Did trump not send him a salacious bday card? Did he deny such a thing existed? aka lying
Have they not obfuscated the release?
Did Mike Johnson not claim that Trump was an informant?
Is Trump not mentioned more than almost anyone according to credible reports and folks who have seen the files?
Did the DOJ not release the names and some pics of the victims? which is fucking abhorrent mind you.

Has anything he has done with respect to the files screamed innocent to you? And, if he is not innocent why is he protecting folks? MTG said he told her it would hurt his friends if he released the files.

There is more but what exactly do you disagree with here? if so, I will post corroboration.

[Grape Ape]

I did post, I assumed you were up on things. I shouldn't have. Not sure why you would respond when its clear that I am not talking about Katie Johnson. Were her interviews hidden recently? what part of my post gave you the impression it was her?

I just posted the link above.

I always post things that require proof. What did I state that's untrue?

Did epstein not say they were best friends for a decade?
Did trump not send him a salacious bday card? Did he deny such a thing existed? aka lying
Have they not obfuscated the release?
Did Mike Johnson not claim that Trump was an informant?
Is Trump not mentioned more than almost anyone according to credible reports and folks who have seen the files?
Did the DOJ not release the names and some pics of the victims? which is fucking abhorrent mind you.

Has anything he has done with respect to the files screamed innocent to you? And, if he is not innocent why is he protecting folks? MTG said he told her it would hurt his friends if he released the files.

There is more but what exactly do you disagree with here? if so, I will post corroboration.

Up on things? - like I said to you before - I don't obsess or go deep into all the myopic shit you do.  I don't have TDS. And I'm consistent as I didn't get into this shit with Biden either.

However, I am aware of the Katie Johnson stuff, and was responding to this, which lines up:

I think he is a pedophile and it will come out soon. It's gonna be rough for all these right wing tarts to recover from.

That poor girl that accused him of rape in the files was denied the light of day and they buried the files and interviews with her. I wonder how many more allegations there are.

If it was the wrong one, you can see why.

As for block of questions, not one of them points to the horrific stuff you are referring to.  The concrete stuff shows they didn't like each other.  None of Trump's actions point to him having one iota of concern about this in that context.

You want to believe it.  Really, really badly, I get it.

But it's comical to think that the left would try to remove him from office via fake dossiers, impeach for the most mundane things, throw him in jail, bankrupt his family, throw him off the ballot, assassinate him, but.........wouldn't use this if they had it.

[LurkerNoMore]

Keep saying this and you'll find yourself on another vacation, faggot.

Why?  You didn't seem to feel this way when people were calling Biden a pedo or when they were calling other members of this board pedos.  But let's just not call Trumpy a pedo even though he is mentioned over 30,000 in the files of a pedo investigation and by his own words and actions in the past.

 

[Necrosis]

Up on things? - like I said to you before - I don't obsess or go deep into all the myopic shit you do.  I don't have TDS. And I'm consistent as I didn't get into this shit with Biden either.

However, I am aware of the Katie Johnson stuff, and was responding to this, which lines up:

If it was the wrong one, you can see why.

As for block of questions, not one of them points to the horrific stuff you are referring to.  The concrete stuff shows they didn't like each other.  None of Trump's actions point to him having one iota of concern about this in that context.

You want to believe it.  Really, really badly, I get it.

But it's comical to think that the left would try to remove him from office via fake dossiers, impeach for the most mundane things, throw him in jail, bankrupt his family, throw him off the ballot, assassinate him, but.........wouldn't use this if they had it.

We had a conversation previously about this new allegation I dont know anything about Katie Johnson, I don't obsess over this stuff like you.

They wouldn't use it because they are involved, not only that there were some limitations legally.

You didn't address anything I wrote, just deflected as per usual.

You want to believe he is innocent, really, really badly. However all of the actions taken would lead any reasonable person to conclude something is amiss.

You also have to stop feigning ignorance every time you can't rebut a point dude, it's the same shit the admin does. I never seen it, I don't know.

I have no clue about Katie Johnson, the only recent allegation that came to light was this young lady. The war started right as it was getting into the news cycle.

Also, why would you have an opinion on something you aren't read up on? seems odd.


It's also very odd you accuse me of not posting things then in your response you simply make a statement without any evidence. Like they disliked each other. What bearing does that have on them being best friends while he was diddling kids? none.

It absolutely points to something in the realm of what I am describing. If it didn't you are suggesting it points to something else? or nothing at all? actions have inferences and intentions that can be gleaned from observation. If I see you trying to block me from seeing something that generally would lead me to conclude you do not want me to see something. What that is who knows, it lacks context. The positive here is we have context, they are hiding access to files related to pedophilia of which the man with power to hide them is mentioned and accused.

[Necrosis]

Why?  You didn't seem to feel this way when people were calling Biden a pedo or when they were calling other members of this board pedos.  But let's just not call Trumpy a pedo even though he is mentioned over 30,000 in the files of a pedo investigation and by his own words and actions in the past.

 

I think he is talking about taking me to a beach vacation and the homo term is related to the expectations of said trip. I mean, he can't be melting down threatening to ban someone for upsetting him could he? All the liberal talk has his estrogen elevated.

I modded MandM and a few other boards and can't imagine being that sensitive.

[LurkerNoMore]

He is desperately looking for an off ramp at this point.  He paraded that "2 Week Ceasefire" treaty like it was an accomplishment he alone made.  Then 3 days later already making threats of violating it.       Just another thing that will have him rage posting in the middle of the night.    Oh and let's not be stupid.  It's going to get worse before it gets better.  Those prices will not be going back to where they were for a longggg time.  If ever.  And guess who is going to be paying for all this.  We are.  Israel comes first.   America comes last.

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Grim new economic numbers highlight how Trump is losing leverage against Iran
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/grim-economic-numbers-highlight-trump-192623023.html

The week began with President Donald Trump saber-rattling like we’ve never seen before. He threatened apparent war crimes and to end a “whole civilization” if Iran didn’t meet his demands.

It is ending with Trump looking like he’s losing leverage, out of ideas — and increasingly anxious for an offramp.

The economic news Friday was especially grim for Trump’s ability to keep prosecuting this war and drive a hard bargain with Iran in upcoming negotiations. Let’s briefly recap:

    The oil shock created by the ongoing logjam in the Strait of Hormuz pushed inflation up 0.9% in March alone, which was the highest one-month jump in nearly four years.

    Inflation is now at 3.3% on an annualized basis, which is the highest rate since Trump became president.

    The price of gasoline rose 21.2% in March, which was a record.

    The much-watched University of Michigan consumer sentiment index — a measure of how confident Americans are in the economy — just hit a record low, in data stretching back to 1952.
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[LurkerNoMore]

I think he is talking about taking me to a beach vacation and the homo term is related to the expectations of said trip. I mean, he can't be melting down threatening to ban someone for upsetting him could he? All the liberal talk has his estrogen elevated.

I modded MandM and a few other boards and can't imagine being that sensitive.

You don't know the weak ass MAGA mods here.  Thin skinned little bitch hypocrites. 

[Necrosis]

He is desperately looking for an off ramp at this point.  He paraded that "2 Week Ceasefire" treaty like it was an accomplishment he alone made.  Then 3 days later already making threats of violating it.       Just another thing that will have him rage posting in the middle of the night.    Oh and let's not be stupid.  It's going to get worse before it gets better.  Those prices will not be going back to where they were for a longggg time.  If ever.  And guess who is going to be paying for all this.  We are.  Israel comes first.   America comes last.

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Grim new economic numbers highlight how Trump is losing leverage against Iran
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/grim-economic-numbers-highlight-trump-192623023.html

The week began with President Donald Trump saber-rattling like we’ve never seen before. He threatened apparent war crimes and to end a “whole civilization” if Iran didn’t meet his demands.

It is ending with Trump looking like he’s losing leverage, out of ideas — and increasingly anxious for an offramp.

The economic news Friday was especially grim for Trump’s ability to keep prosecuting this war and drive a hard bargain with Iran in upcoming negotiations. Let’s briefly recap:

    The oil shock created by the ongoing logjam in the Strait of Hormuz pushed inflation up 0.9% in March alone, which was the highest one-month jump in nearly four years.

    Inflation is now at 3.3% on an annualized basis, which is the highest rate since Trump became president.

    The price of gasoline rose 21.2% in March, which was a record.

    The much-watched University of Michigan consumer sentiment index — a measure of how confident Americans are in the economy — just hit a record low, in data stretching back to 1952.
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The messed up thing is Biden's inflation was covid induced. The whole world had similar or worse inflation. Trump's inflation is self induced. Combined with the jobs numbers things are looking rough.

Who could of seen this coming?

[LurkerNoMore]

The messed up thing is Biden's inflation was covid induced. The whole world had similar or worse inflation. Trump's inflation is self induced. Combined with the jobs numbers things are looking rough.

Who could of seen this coming?

Harris for one.  She warned everyone.   

[chaos]

HAHAHAHA meltdown, pussy!!!

Couldn't care less, didn't realize it's against to rules to call Trump a pedo!
Your estrogen is high ahahahaha.

For a guy that claimed to spend 12 extra years in school, you sure are retarded. Makes sense since you support the left.

Why?  You didn't seem to feel this way when people were calling Biden a pedo or when they were calling other members of this board pedos.  But let's just not call Trumpy a pedo even though he is mentioned over 30,000 in the files of a pedo investigation and by his own words and actions in the past.

 

You blue haired yeast infections have been calling Trump a pedo for years, when have I said anything? Go back and read his post again you fucking moron and maybe it will click with your stupid ass.

Couple of dumb pieces of shit right here^^^^^^

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For a guy that claimed to spend 12 extra years in school, you sure are retarded. Makes sense since you support the left.
You blue haired yeast infections have been calling Trump a pedo for years, when have I said anything? Go back and read his post again you fucking moron and maybe it will click with your stupid ass.

Couple of dumb pieces of shit right here^^^^^^

If someone supports biden and biden is a pedo what does that make them?

[illuminati]

For a guy that claimed to spend 12 extra years in school, you sure are retarded. Makes sense since you support the left.
You blue haired yeast infections have been calling Trump a pedo for years, when have I said anything? Go back and read his post again you fucking moron and maybe it will click with your stupid ass.

Couple of dumb pieces of shit right here^^^^^^

If all they have is to call Donald a King or a Paedophile then let them
They were more than happy to support & Defend Paedophile Biden
& there's stacks of video's of his perverted behaviour with children & of
course what his own daughter had to say about him.
They so easily ignore all that.

They're Leftist DummyCraps & that explains everything. 

[Rambone]

Lmao!

[GymnJuice]

He has as much circumstantial evidence as anyone and there are direct allegations which they initially hid

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/doj-releases-epstein-files-containing-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump

They are still hiding 37 (I thought 13) pages and have 3 million more in waiting. The duplicative argument is hollow as they have used it multiple times and been found wanting. He is mentioned more than anyone, that's not normal.

There could be no direct evidence because Epstein was murdered before he could talk and no one has been convicted save Ghislane Maxwell. Who by the way under trump was given a softer more pleasant life (for a conspirator of the largest pedo ring in the world) for what exactly? that doesn't seem fishy at all?

I think you would have to been dumb or incredibly biased not to demand further investigation. The fact that no man has come to justice is pretty sick shit.

This is what I found at the PBS link.

Geoff Bennett:

The Justice Department released a batch of previously unreleased documents from the Epstein files that include notes from FBI interviews with a woman who says she was assaulted by President Trump as a minor.

In interviews with the FBI, the woman alleged she was assaulted by Mr. Trump in the 1980s and that she was also a victim of Epstein's. The documents were released after multiple news outlets discovered they were missing from the initial mass release of files.

For more, we're joined now by our justice correspondent, Ali Rogin.

So, Ali, tell us more about what's in these documents.

Ali Rogin:

Geoff, these documents are known as 302 files. There's summaries of three interviews the FBI conducted with this accuser in which she alleges that Epstein brought her to meet Trump some time between when she was age 13 and 15.

She details in very graphic terms Trump's sexual, alleged sexual assault against her and how she fought back. She also says she had two additional interactions with Trump, but before she expanded on that any further, she asked if she could go on to another subject.

During the last interview with the accuser, the FBI asked if she would be comfortable sharing more about her contacts with Trump. She said at the time that she didn't know what the point would be when there was a strong possibility nothing could be done about it. And it's unclear, Geoff, if there was any additional follow-up after that last interview.

Geoff Bennett:

Why weren't these documents initially released?

Ali Rogin:

These three summaries are actually part of a set of four. And that other document was released as part of that initial major tranche we saw in late January.

That summary was an interview in which the accuser focused on Epstein and didn't mention Trump. These others also -- these others, of course, mention the Trump allegations. Reporters caught this discrepancy because descriptions of all four summaries of the interviews were included in a list that was given to attorneys for Epstein co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell.

In a statement released on social media, the Department of Justice said the interviews had been incorrectly deemed duplicative and were subsequently published. The DOJ also says that the unredacted versions of the documents will be available for members of Congress to review.

But reporters have noted that, even still, there are additional documents that remain missing. Independent journalist Roger Sollenberger has been following this closely. And he noted that there are at least 37 pages still missing. That includes notes that informed these summaries, as well as internal communication that would memorialize how the situation with the accuser was resolved.

Geoff Bennett:

What's the White House saying about all of this?

Ali Rogin:

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt put out a statement in which she calls the accusations completely baseless and she says they come from a -- quote -- "sadly disturbed woman who has an extensive criminal history."

Geoff Bennett:

If the accuser is unidentified, how would she know that to be true?

Ali Rogin:

There are some details in the summaries of these interviews in which the accuser talks about her arrests as a minor.

While these allegations remain uncorroborated, there is new reporting Geoff tonight from Julie K. Brown of The Miami Herald, who's broken much of the Epstein story, saying that DOJ officials who spoke to this woman found her to be credible and that they wouldn't have interviewed her four times if they didn't.

I’m not interested in defending Trump here, because I genuinely don’t know whether he’s innocent or guilty. I just never saw the “mountains of evidence” of pedophilia. Lewd behavior, infidelity, etc., sure.

From the PBS article and the supporting documents, it looks like there’s one additional accuser beyond Katie Johnson. This person came forward in 2019, with the allegation appearing in the “302” files. The claim involves events from the 1980s. I found the actual document here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2012/EFTA02858481.pdf (it’s on page 8 ). It’s not a direct transcript. It’s the FBI agent’s summary of what the accuser told them.

I don’t know why no charges were ever filed. We’ve seen plenty of false accusations before (Like Grape I also remember the Duke lacrosse case). And there’s clearly a lot of corruption in politics that needs to be cleaned up (Hunter Biden’s laptop).

I do agree Epstein’s death was extremely shady. But many powerful people and institutions had strong motives to want him gone, not just Trump. When you consider the potential ties to foreign governments and both foreign and domestic intelligence agencies, the list of suspects gets very long very quickly.

[LurkerNoMore]

For a guy that claimed to spend 12 extra years in school, you sure are retarded. Makes sense since you support the left.
You blue haired yeast infections have been calling Trump a pedo for years, when have I said anything? Go back and read his post again you fucking moron and maybe it will click with your stupid ass.

Couple of dumb pieces of shit right here^^^^^^

You threatened him for calling Trumpy a pedo.  Yet have remained completely silent while your cohorts call other members of this very board a pedo.   

Getting a fucking grip you hypocrite. 

[Grape Ape]

This is what I found at the PBS link.

I’m not interested in defending Trump here, because I genuinely don’t know whether he’s innocent or guilty. I just never saw the “mountains of evidence” of pedophilia. Lewd behavior, infidelity, etc., sure.

From the PBS article and the supporting documents, it looks like there’s one additional accuser beyond Katie Johnson. This person came forward in 2019, with the allegation appearing in the “302” files. The claim involves events from the 1980s. I found the actual document here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2012/EFTA02858481.pdf (it’s on page 8 ). It’s not a direct transcript. It’s the FBI agent’s summary of what the accuser told them.

I don’t know why no charges were ever filed. We’ve seen plenty of false accusations before (Like Grape I also remember the Duke lacrosse case). And there’s clearly a lot of corruption in politics that needs to be cleaned up (Hunter Biden’s laptop).

I do agree Epstein’s death was extremely shady. But many powerful people and institutions had strong motives to want him gone, not just Trump. When you consider the potential ties to foreign governments and both foreign and domestic intelligence agencies, the list of suspects gets very long very quickly.

Agree.

As for Duke, looks like they may be doing the same thing to Swalwell right now, sacrificing him to prevent a Republican from winning.

But like the above, I'll wait to see what evidence arises.  The timing of all these accusers seems very suspect.

That said, f Swalwell.

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This is what I found at the PBS link.

I’m not interested in defending Trump here, because I genuinely don’t know whether he’s innocent or guilty. I just never saw the “mountains of evidence” of pedophilia. Lewd behavior, infidelity, etc., sure.

From the PBS article and the supporting documents, it looks like there’s one additional accuser beyond Katie Johnson. This person came forward in 2019, with the allegation appearing in the “302” files. The claim involves events from the 1980s. I found the actual document here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2012/EFTA02858481.pdf (it’s on page 8 ). It’s not a direct transcript. It’s the FBI agent’s summary of what the accuser told them.

I don’t know why no charges were ever filed. We’ve seen plenty of false accusations before (Like Grape I also remember the Duke lacrosse case). And there’s clearly a lot of corruption in politics that needs to be cleaned up (Hunter Biden’s laptop).

I do agree Epstein’s death was extremely shady. But many powerful people and institutions had strong motives to want him gone, not just Trump. When you consider the potential ties to foreign governments and both foreign and domestic intelligence agencies, the list of suspects gets very long very quickly.

There were no investigations, how would there be direct evidence beyond accusations and circumstantial evidence? there is as much circumstantial evidence for trump as anyone dude. What they do beyond that is the question. They have shown that they are hiding information and obfuscating things, quite clearly, they had to be ordered to release them after doing everything in their power to block the shit. Then they missed multiple deadlines and released survivor names and pictures (despicable shit).

Trump has been caught directly lying as have multiple cabinet members about Epstein, why would they do that?

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You threatened him for calling Trumpy a pedo.  Yet have remained completely silent while your cohorts call other members of this very board a pedo.   

Getting a fucking grip you hypocrite.

He is saying that I said he supports a pedo but i don't know how that claim could be false if I think Trump is a pedo and others support him.

I am not calling chaos a pedo, even if I was is this what getbig has become?

When the "squad" was around (lol) it was brutal.

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Agree.

As for Duke, looks like they may be doing the same thing to Swalwell right now, sacrificing him to prevent a Republican from winning.

But like the above, I'll wait to see what evidence arises.  The timing of all these accusers seems very suspect.

That said, f Swalwell.

They didn't release the interviews dude, they hide them. There is nothing suspect. So you are suspicious of the release but not the accusation? you are suspicious of this but not that he sent him a lewd birthday card with a women on it (to a rapist) which he denied? none of that raises red flags for you? makes you think hmmm..

Someone raped a ton of children, it's folks in the files and nothing has been done. It was likely folks close to epstein obviously and folks that visited the island. Apparently trump did so 40 times.

It's an obvious cover up.

[GymnJuice]

There were no investigations, how would there be direct evidence beyond accusations and circumstantial evidence? there is as much circumstantial evidence for trump as anyone dude. What they do beyond that is the question. They have shown that they are hiding information and obfuscating things, quite clearly, they had to be ordered to release them after doing everything in their power to block the shit. Then they missed multiple deadlines and released survivor names and pictures (despicable shit).

Trump has been caught directly lying as have multiple cabinet members about Epstein, why would they do that?

I agree that information has been withheld and that there’s been no real investigation. But that doesn’t amount to mountains of evidence that Trump is a pedophile.

It’s entirely possible they’re hiding or obfuscating things for reasons other than pedophilia. As I’ve said, he’s a well known womanizer and philanderer. Maybe the files contain evidence of him pissing on Russian hookers, or other compromising personal behavior. Or maybe he’s simply stonewalling on principle knowing that any association with Epstein invites guilt by association.

I don’t know for sure. He could be guilty, but I don’t see sufficient evidence to conclude that he is yet. Obfuscation? Yes. Proof of pedophilia? No.

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I agree that information has been withheld and that there’s been no real investigation. But that doesn’t amount to mountains of evidence that Trump is a pedophile.

It’s entirely possible they’re hiding or obfuscating things for reasons other than pedophilia. As I’ve said, he’s a well known womanizer and philanderer. Maybe the files contain evidence of him pissing on Russian hookers, or other compromising personal behavior. Or maybe he’s simply stonewalling on principle knowing that any association with Epstein invites guilt by association.

I don’t know for sure. He could be guilty, but I don’t see sufficient evidence to conclude that he is yet. Obfuscation? Yes. Proof of pedophilia? No.

Of course these are possibilities. I think it stretches credulity to suggest that he at least didn't know based on his history with the man. Then you have trump being accused by, what, 28 women of sexual misconduct.

There is sufficient evidence to investigate and once thats complete we will know one way or the other.

[Grape Ape]

They didn't release the interviews dude, they hide them. There is nothing suspect. So you are suspicious of the release but not the accusation? you are suspicious of this but not that he sent him a lewd birthday card with a women on it (to a rapist) which he denied? none of that raises red flags for you? makes you think hmmm..

Someone raped a ton of children, it's folks in the files and nothing has been done. It was likely folks close to epstein obviously and folks that visited the island. Apparently trump did so 40 times.

It's an obvious cover up.

Take off your TDS hat for a second and re-read - I was talking about Swalwell.

I am suspicious of the amount of accusations that surfaced on Swalwell and the timing of them, yes.  I think he's a douche, but this is completely convenient.

But since it's all about Trump, show me where you came to the conclusion Trump visited the island forty times.  It's probably hard to find in that mountain of evidence you have.

[WrongAdvices]

Oh my god he sent a millionaire playboy a salacious birthday card!!!!!!!