2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[loco]

Iran has agreed to never close the Strait of Hormuz again. It will no longer be used as a weapon against the World

I wouldn't trust Iran on this or anything else.

[chaos]

It was $63 a barrel in December 2025

It was $122.80 in May 2008

[Irongrip400]

Dumb comparison seeing oil always rises during conflicts. Oil was 2.50 a barrel in 1950. That’s how relevant that is

Three months ago and 75 years ago are too different things

[Coach is Back!]

I wouldn't trust Iran on this or anything else.

Like I said. Never is a long time.

[Flexacon]

Coach in here taking names and doing victory laps. Love to see it

[Coach is Back!]

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[Grape Ape]

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I was told by someone I know who follows this stuff closely and always seems to be right, that the literal translation of the english "wiping out a civilization" to arabic/persian has a subtle difference, and was appropriate.

That's one I'm not going to bother to check, but I did find this guy's explanation of the rhetoric interesting.  He was criticizing Shawn Ryan here:

As a former SEAL that has sat in briefing rooms in theater, run ops against jihadist networks, and built a platform interviewing many sharp people in both operations and intelligence, you of all people should understand how strategic warfare actually works.

Despite all of that, you are sitting here and pushing posts like a cable news commentator with rimmed glasses on a communist news network, framing decisive pressure against the world's leading state sponsor of militant jihadist terrorism as "chaos" and "loss."

Let's cut through this selective timeline you laid out:

Trump issued a brutal, unmistakable warning over the Strait of Hormuz, the chokepoint Iran's regime was weaponizing to strangle global energy and fund its proxies.

That wasn't just some bluster for fun, it was quite literally combatant messaging 101 in asymmetric conflict against an enemy that only respects raw and credible power.

Jihadist Islamists like the IRGC, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, and their ilk don't negotiate in good faith or respond to polite diplomacy, and you absolutely know this.

They only respond to negotiations from positions of strength.

If you do not negotiate that way, they will probe weaknesses, exploit hesitation, and interpret restraint as invitations to push attacks.

History from the Beirut barracks to the USS Cole to Benghazi and to decades of proxy attacks has proven that.

You've had guests that have spoken about these things, yet you act ignorant of them now?

This apocalyptic rhetoric is the only language these people understand, and you know it.

Iran blinked because of that rhetoric, floated a ceasefire tied to reopening the strait, and the administration secured a pause to lock in gains. That is not "lighting the world on fire then calling the fire department," you two bit propagandist, that is literally the way war has always worked.

It is coercion through strength: downgrade the enemy's capacity, signal willingness to escalate decisively, then offer the off ramp on your terms.

It's wild that you are ignorant about this.

[Coach is Back!]

I was told by someone I know who follows this stuff closely and always seems to be right, that the literal translation of the english "wiping out a civilization" to arabic/persian has a subtle difference, and was appropriate.

That's one I'm not going to bother to check, but I did find this guy's explanation of the rhetoric interesting.  He was criticizing Shawn Ryan here:

This is what I wrote on my substack a day or two after he said that. If you’ve ever read Sun Tzu’s Art of War, what he did was textbook.

“This is in reference to President Trumps comments about wiping out a civilization. I’ll admit that even I was taken aback by what was said in his Truth Social post but had to step back and really take a look at his words. Harsh and extremely threatening, yes and knowing the man usually means what he says should be taken literally.

But his rhetoric was in the form of extreme psychological warfare to either get the enemies to either come to the table and negotiate or surrender or face the consequences.

Obviously, the extreme psychological warfare worked. Iran blinked, came to the table and a double ceasefire was had. If you have ever read the book “The Art of War” by Sun Tzu this is discussed. Trump has publicly shown his appreciation for Sun Tzu and has referenced his writings”

[oldschoolfan]

It was $122.80 in May 2008

chaos you have to realize coach is a delusional moron who believes he is intelligent but he is not .  nothing but s short old man going who wants to be a tough guy

[Coach is Back!]

chaos you have to realize coach is a delusional moron who believes he is intelligent but he is not .  nothing but s short old man going who wants to be a tough guy

I literally owned the shit out this entire board of conspiracy theorists (you). Keep right on making asses of yourselves

[Flexacon]

I literally owned the shit out this entire board of conspiracy theorists (you). Keep right on making asses of yourselves

[B_B_C]

[GymnJuice]

So if the ceasefire holds, Iran will just let ships through the Strait again... Like they were doing before we triggered all of this?

I just don’t see the win here. At best, we’re minimizing our losses. I never bought the idea that Iran was on the verge of getting nuclear weapons, and even if they were, those weapons would’ve been aimed at Saudi Arabia, Israel, or Turkey. Not us. Killing the Ayatollah didn’t change much either. The new one is cut from the same cloth.

In the end, we’ve spent blood and money just to get back to square one, minus the costs of the airstrikes and the blockade. If we pull out now and call it a victory, it’s still a far smaller disaster than Iraq or Afghanistan. I guess that’s something.

[Necrosis]

HAHA

this guy nearly bankrupted them already (twice now) and is at it again.

[Coach is Back!]

So if the ceasefire holds, Iran will just let ships through the Strait again... Like they were doing before we triggered all of this?

I just don’t see the win here. At best, we’re minimizing our losses. I never bought the idea that Iran was on the verge of getting nuclear weapons, and even if they were, those weapons would’ve been aimed at Saudi Arabia, Israel, or Turkey. Not us. Killing the Ayatollah didn’t change much either. The new one is cut from the same cloth.

In the end, we’ve spent blood and money just to get back to square one, minus the costs of the airstrikes and the blockade. If we pull out now and call it a victory, it’s still a far smaller disaster than Iraq or Afghanistan. I guess that’s something.

Iran admitted (and even bragged) to having 450kilos of 60% enriched uranium. Enough for 11 nuclear bombs.

[Grape Ape]

chaos you have to realize coach is a delusional moron who believes he is intelligent but he is not .  nothing but s short old man going who wants to be a tough guy

I have no beef with you, but if you don't counter his post and just do ad hominem attacks, your post is worthless.

Do you have any thoughts on the context of what we were discussing?

[Necrosis]

All I see with this post is gibberish and deflection. Someone told me they thought you were smart and "obviously educated" but they recently PMd me that they were wrong and believe you are trying to use AI to sound smart. Pretty sad facade you have attempted to create here.

Lol, what a weird troll hahaha. Also, deflection? read the posts. It's clear as day.

Secret pm's! accusations of AI!! well if you think or they think I am using AI then I must be quite smart. Thanks for the compliment man.

This angle won't work. Only one that worked was the grammar thing as it's clearly awful and I am lazy wrt writing.

Back to the drawing board. Hysteresis is a bitch though, I doubt you can escape it's wake as it echo's through your lil mind.

I will take this banter as a form of sublimation, although, I am not sure it's constructive.

[Necrosis]

You can't go posting stuff like that - You'll have Pronoun Boy necrosis
LurkingforBoys Prime etc crying & wanting to commit suicide.

amazing stuff! we caused it to go up now its back to normal, praise us!!

[Necrosis]

Gas price dropping even further now and the stock market appears to be going up big.  If this holds, then clearly Trump won and the Leftists will disappear from this thread in a week or so and move on to the next outrage

Won what? they didnt accomplish anything? they murdered 170 children and 13 solidiers died and untold iranians. You spent 50 billion on nothing and have no nuclear agreement.

I hope gas drops, I hope the stock market goes up. Why is everything a zero sum fucking game with you folks?

[Grape Ape]

So if the ceasefire holds, Iran will just let ships through the Strait again... Like they were doing before we triggered all of this?

I just don’t see the win here. At best, we’re minimizing our losses. I never bought the idea that Iran was on the verge of getting nuclear weapons, and even if they were, those weapons would’ve been aimed at Saudi Arabia, Israel, or Turkey. Not us. Killing the Ayatollah didn’t change much either. The new one is cut from the same cloth.

In the end, we’ve spent blood and money just to get back to square one, minus the costs of the airstrikes and the blockade. If we pull out now and call it a victory, it’s still a far smaller disaster than Iraq or Afghanistan. I guess that’s something.

This goes back to what I was stating originally: If you believe the Iranians enriched to 60%, then you can get behind this.  If you don't, you'll view it as Bush Iraq.   This is what I found (credit: Grok, Reuters):

Yes, Iran has publicly confirmed and announced enriching uranium to 60% purity on multiple occasions, starting in 2021, with ongoing production verified by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in subsequent years.
Key Timeline and Confirmations

April 2021: Iran first announced its intention to enrich uranium to 60% U-235 (a major escalation from prior levels like 20%) in response to an alleged sabotage at the Natanz facility. Iranian officials, including Atomic Energy Organization head Ali Akbar Salehi and President Hassan Rouhani, publicly stated that enrichment had begun at Natanz's Pilot Fuel Enrichment Plant. They described it as producing small amounts initially (e.g., ~9 grams per hour, later adjusted). Iranian parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf also hailed it as a "success."
The IAEA quickly verified this, confirming Iran had started producing UF6 (uranium hexafluoride) enriched up to 60% at Natanz, with samples taken for analysis. Iran informed the IAEA directly of the activity.
Later expansions: Iran continued and expanded 60% enrichment, including at the Fordow facility (announced around 2022). Production rates varied but reached several kilograms per month at times (e.g., ~9 kg/month reported in IAEA updates around 2023–2024)

But to say we are back at square one only views this through the lens of the Strait, which was never the goal.  It ignores the decimation of their military, the destruction of their leadership, the complete display of force......

We still need to wait and see what the end result is.

[LurkerNoMore]

It was a natural reaction for oil prices to go down when the Strait opened.  It's not rocket science to figure that out.

Of course, that $20B that Trump is sending Iran is enough to make them change their minds.

[Coach is Back!]

It was a natural reaction for oil prices to go down when the Strait opened.  It's not rocket science to figure that out.

Of course, that $20B that Trump is sending Iran is enough to make them change their minds.

So it was a natural reaction for oil to go down but just a few weeks ago you were gaslighting when it was said that oil prices rise during conflicts/war or whatever you want to call it…..got it

[LurkerNoMore]

So it was a natural reaction for oil to go down but just a few weeks ago you were gaslighting when it was said that oil prices rise during conflicts/war or whatever you want to call it…..got it

No, you don't "got it".  You are too retarded to understand what you have read.  This entire thread - in addition to being an epic beat down of your little short ass - is everyone saying that the conflict was unnecessary and uncalled for.  Had the little orange toddler not fell for Israel's lies and arm twisting, then we would have never found ourselves in this situation to start with that triggered the increase.

Your stupidity is more than just a natural talent or a professionally trained trait.  It is God given.

[oldschoolfan]

I literally owned the shit out this entire board of conspiracy theorists (you). Keep right on making asses of yourselves

not really coach no one agrees with you , thats why you left for two weeks,  now you need attention again that's  why you are on here  , i mean you are a dwarf delta fore commando now.

remember your peaceful but not passive.  you have never served in the military or police but yet you are an expert on firearms and protection your pathetic

its gotta suck being in your 60's and looking to prove your tough but thats what midgets like you do

every picture you post with other men you are the shortest guy in the picture.  you are 5-0 and to be honest i didnt even know they could stack shit that high

[Coach is Back!]

not really coach no one agrees with you , thats why you left for two weeks,  now you need attention again that's  why you are on here  , i mean you are a dwarf delta fore commando now.

remember your peaceful but not passive.  you have never served in the military or police but yet you are an expert on firearms and protection your pathetic

See…wrong again. I took time off to 1. Let you idiots stew in your own bullshit. 2. I have 6 classes a week plus weekends 3. My granddaughter was born 4. I took care of my grandson.

See junior, you’re just words on a board. Know one knows who or what you are.
You talk shit you can’t back up. You’re faceless.