Author Topic: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"  (Read 364015 times)

Griffith

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I don't care if it's a "bad deal," if Iran gets billions in frozen funds, or if they control the strait. If it means we are finally out of there, it’s a win for American citizens and taxpayers.

And the entire world has to be dragged into this stupid bullshit and pay the price because the US got duped by Israel.

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Hahahaha.  Iran is now saying that contrary to Trumpy's claims, the Strait is not open free of tolls.

How much are we going to pay them?   :D :D :D :D   And they keep their nuclear dust?   :D :D :D :D   

Can't wait to see how much worse than Obama's agreement this will be.  A complete humiliation of the called "deal maker".

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Hahahaha.  Iran is now saying that contrary to Trumpy's claims, the Strait is not open free of tolls.

How much are we going to pay them?   :D :D :D :D   And they keep their nuclear dust?   :D :D :D :D   

Can't wait to see how much worse than Obama's agreement this will be.  A complete humiliation of the called "deal maker".

I actually don't care if Iran gets to charge tolls after this deal. It doesn't hurt me personally, and it doesn't really hurt the US either. Thanks to fracking, we're now a net exporter of oil, and we don't rely on that strait for our own shipments. The tolls will mostly be paid by Europe and China, since they're the big buyers. If anything, this ends up hurting Israel, Iran's main enemy, and probably Iran's Arab adversaries too. Overall, it feels like a pretty neutral concession for the US if you look at it without emotion.

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I actually don't care if Iran gets to charge tolls after this deal. It doesn't hurt me personally, and it doesn't really hurt the US either. Thanks to fracking, we're now a net exporter of oil, and we don't rely on that strait for our own shipments. The tolls will mostly be paid by Europe and China, since they're the big buyers. If anything, this ends up hurting Israel, Iran's main enemy, and probably Iran's Arab adversaries too. Overall, it feels like a pretty neutral concession for the US if you look at it without emotion.

Naw we getting fleeced even more.  This is now being reported :

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JD Vance went on CBS News and tried to spin Donald Trump's Iran deal. Instead, he CONFIRMED exactly how badly Trump got fleeced.
CBS correspondent Ed O'Keefe asked Vance point-blank whether Iran would have access to a $300 BILLION reconstruction fund. Vance's answer? Essentially yes — "funded by the Gulf Coast coalition so long as they honor their end of the obligation."

So let's do the math that the Trump administration desperately doesn't want you to do. Let's compare Trump's Iran deal to the one Republicans spent a DECADE calling the worst deal in American history — Barack Obama's.

OBAMA'S IRAN DEAL:
• $1.7 billion in unfrozen Iranian assets
• In exchange for a 98% reduction in Iran's uranium stockpile
• And strict limits capping enrichment at 3.7%

TRUMP'S IRAN DEAL:
• $24 BILLION in unfrozen assets and cash
• A $300 BILLION reconstruction fund
• Lifted sanctions
• In exchange for an "opened Strait" under Iran and Oman's control

Read those numbers again. Trump is handing Iran roughly FOURTEEN TIMES the unfrozen cash Obama did — plus a $300 billion reconstruction windfall — after starting a war that nobody wanted, spiking gas prices, and killing the existing ceasefire because he found negotiations "boring." AND the deal just kicks what happens with Iran's uranium stockpile to future negotiations!

Republicans screamed for YEARS that Obama "gave Iran billions" and "appeased the mullahs." They called his deal treasonous. They tore it up. And now their guy is giving Iran an order of magnitude MORE money for a far weaker arrangement.

But here's the part Vance accidentally revealed. He warned that Iranian hardliners would "over-emphasize the benefits that Iran gets while under-emphasizing all the things they have to concede."

That's PROJECTION. Because it's the TRUMP administration that's been over-emphasizing the "wins" while burying the $24 billion, the $300 billion fund, the lifted sanctions, and the fact that the strategic Strait would fall under Iranian and Omani control. Vance is accusing Iran of doing EXACTLY what his own administration is doing — hiding the real terms of the deal from the public.

The man who promised to be tougher than Obama on Iran just handed Tehran the biggest payday in its history — after dragging America into a war first.  $1.7 billion versus $324 billion. That's the difference between Obama's "terrible" deal and Trump's "great" one.
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Naw we getting fleeced even more.  This is now being reported :

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JD Vance went on CBS News and tried to spin Donald Trump's Iran deal. Instead, he CONFIRMED exactly how badly Trump got fleeced.
CBS correspondent Ed O'Keefe asked Vance point-blank whether Iran would have access to a $300 BILLION reconstruction fund. Vance's answer? Essentially yes — "funded by the Gulf Coast coalition so long as they honor their end of the obligation."

So let's do the math that the Trump administration desperately doesn't want you to do. Let's compare Trump's Iran deal to the one Republicans spent a DECADE calling the worst deal in American history — Barack Obama's.

OBAMA'S IRAN DEAL:
• $1.7 billion in unfrozen Iranian assets
• In exchange for a 98% reduction in Iran's uranium stockpile
• And strict limits capping enrichment at 3.7%

TRUMP'S IRAN DEAL:
• $24 BILLION in unfrozen assets and cash
• A $300 BILLION reconstruction fund
• Lifted sanctions
• In exchange for an "opened Strait" under Iran and Oman's control

Read those numbers again. Trump is handing Iran roughly FOURTEEN TIMES the unfrozen cash Obama did — plus a $300 billion reconstruction windfall — after starting a war that nobody wanted, spiking gas prices, and killing the existing ceasefire because he found negotiations "boring." AND the deal just kicks what happens with Iran's uranium stockpile to future negotiations!

Republicans screamed for YEARS that Obama "gave Iran billions" and "appeased the mullahs." They called his deal treasonous. They tore it up. And now their guy is giving Iran an order of magnitude MORE money for a far weaker arrangement.

But here's the part Vance accidentally revealed. He warned that Iranian hardliners would "over-emphasize the benefits that Iran gets while under-emphasizing all the things they have to concede."

That's PROJECTION. Because it's the TRUMP administration that's been over-emphasizing the "wins" while burying the $24 billion, the $300 billion fund, the lifted sanctions, and the fact that the strategic Strait would fall under Iranian and Omani control. Vance is accusing Iran of doing EXACTLY what his own administration is doing — hiding the real terms of the deal from the public.

The man who promised to be tougher than Obama on Iran just handed Tehran the biggest payday in its history — after dragging America into a war first.  $1.7 billion versus $324 billion. That's the difference between Obama's "terrible" deal and Trump's "great" one.
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As a neutral bystander, an American watching from the other side of the globe, I’ve been consistent from the beginning that this isn’t our fight, and we shouldn’t be involved in the first place.

That said, even if Iran receives more money under this deal, it doesn’t hurt me personally as long as the funds aren’t coming from American taxpayers or resources. If Gulf countries want to pay Iran billions, that’s their decision. Why should that concern me?

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As a neutral bystander, an American watching from the other side of the globe, I’ve been consistent from the beginning that this isn’t our fight, and we shouldn’t be involved in the first place.

That said, even if Iran receives more money under this deal, it doesn’t hurt me personally as long as the funds aren’t coming from American taxpayers or resources. If Gulf countries want to pay Iran billions, that’s their decision. Why should that concern me?

And that summarises everything.