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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2850 on: June 16, 2026, 02:48:02 PM »
Are you going to admit I was right about everything?

Dude, we are worse off than we were before. If the details come out Friday and it is something different than what is being said, I will come back and eat crow but as it stands now with what both sides are saying we are not better off now than we were in February.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2851 on: June 16, 2026, 02:52:18 PM »
And the influence they have on the US is apparently a 'conspiracy theory'.

Yes. It's also a conspiracy theory that they control the media. And that they work as a collective to advance Jewish interests. And that they have dual loyalties in any countries they reside.

They are also very vindictive and cruel by other peoples' standards. An example is that recently a 19 year old said he "doesn't want to work for a Jew." They have vowed to make sure he can never, ever get a job anywhere and that all his days will be miserable here on out.




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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2852 on: June 16, 2026, 02:55:31 PM »
Only with OUR money.  OUR weapons.  OUR help.  OUR burdening the weight from their shoulders.
And that's nothing new since the day we created that little plot of land to put the troublemakers on. ;)
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2853 on: June 16, 2026, 04:59:31 PM »
And that's nothing new since the day we created that little plot of land to put the troublemakers on. ;)

If I'm not mistaken the Brits were instrumental in establishing Israel. Then Jewish terrorists killed British diplomats to get them out of there. Hitler also tried to get the German Jews to move there but they didn't want to. Zionist Jews told Hitler to be tough on the Jews so they would be forced to move. Zionists also killed Jews in other countries, sometimes dressed as Arabs, for the same reason.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."

- Ben-Gurion, Israel's first prime minister, 1938 in the wake of the Nazi Kristallnacht pogrom


They say young US Jews are no longer very Zionist.

Trump, paraphrased: "Israel has killed too many regular people in Lebanon, let Syria take care of them, I think they will do a better job at doing it"



Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer, and Lindsey Graham are pissed no doubt.
Remember, Al Jolani of Syria is former Al Qaeda terrorist with a 10 mil bounty on his head.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2854 on: June 16, 2026, 05:03:56 PM »
And that's nothing new since the day we created that little plot of land to put the troublemakers on. ;)

The creation of the terrorist state of israel is one of the worst blunders in the history of civilization. 

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2855 on: June 16, 2026, 05:21:49 PM »
Sounds like Americans are worse off now before this thing started. The U.S. looks weaker than ever and Iran now controls the strait? Wtf. And it cost American lives and tons of money. They must have something good on Trump. He looks like a moron after this, but I don’t think this was his idea. Either way….Sad!

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2856 on: June 16, 2026, 05:26:20 PM »
Sounds like Americans are worse off now before this thing started. The U.S. looks weaker than ever and Iran now controls the strait? And it cost American lives and tons of money. Wtf. They must have something good on Trump.

This was Netanyahu's dream for several decades, he will have to live with the consequences.

Fake news?

"We have now handed Iran de facto control over the strait – a weapon more powerful than any nuke,” one of the sources familiar with the US intelligence assessments told CNN, emphasizing how the war has fundamentally altered Tehran’s thinking about leveraging similar tactics in the future.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2857 on: June 16, 2026, 05:33:21 PM »
Trump, paraphrased: "Israel has killed too many regular people in Lebanon, let Syria take care of them, I think they will do a better job at doing it"



Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer, and Lindsey Graham are pissed no doubt.
Remember, Al Jolani of Syria is former Al Qaeda terrorist with a 10 mil bounty on his head.

Anything that pisses off Lindsey is a good thing.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2858 on: June 17, 2026, 01:58:05 AM »
Are you going to admit I was right about everything?

Like what? lol

You were pretending this wasn't a war. When it comes out that this will cost the US more than Obama's deal (it already has by a wide margin) and is a far worse deal (which it will be), will you be able to admit this is a huge fuck up?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2859 on: June 17, 2026, 02:27:06 AM »
Sounds like Americans are worse off now before this thing started. The U.S. looks weaker than ever and Iran now controls the strait? Wtf. And it cost American lives and tons of money. They must have something good on Trump. He looks like a moron after this, but I don’t think this was his idea. Either way….Sad!

We lost. We're essentially paying them to stay out of the US's hair for a few years, then it will back to the same business as usual.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2860 on: June 17, 2026, 03:24:04 AM »
Anything that pisses off Lindsey is a good thing.

This queer sure is a warmonger. I'm sure he's putting dildos up his ass at home as he calls incessantly for others to go fight wars. The gall is amazing to me, how cavalier some are about wars. Easy to say when you have no skin in the game, no kids in the army. A few weeks ago he went to Disney World on vacation by himself. I hate to speculate but maybe he went to look at kids.



We lost. We're essentially paying them to stay out of the US's hair for a few years, then it will back to the same business as usual.

Looks to me like there are a million issues and flashpoints with this deal that will make things flare up many times. Now Trump is essentially called worse than Obama by even by his Zionist new-MAGA supporters and that's probably something he will have a hard time dealing with. If he really thought Iran was as defeated as he repeatedly claimed he wouldn't have been desperate to leave. He had no good choices. I admit I feel a lot of schadenfreude because so many warned of this exact situation and they were dismissed as pussies. And I have personal issues with Iranians here in the diaspora, the gay ones who want this Zionist Pahlavi fella in power and Pride parades in Tehran. "Lion and the Sun!" :D

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2861 on: June 17, 2026, 05:27:42 AM »
Not a rhetorical question: what have you been right about and conspiracy theorists like me have been wrong about? I realize you probably directed this to Lurker.

Not necessarily directed at you Coach, just general questions and wonderings: some say the US is self sufficient in oil and energy and this war was overall beneficial for the US in that respect, and that the US is a net exporter or whatever. But on the other hand several US oil producers have warned that the oil reserves are the lowest they've ever been historically and if the Strait issue doesn't get solved like yesterday there's going to be trouble for the US; they've given disaster dates like July 4th. Also, Trump also let Iran sell oil at some point during this war because it was going cause severe problems otherwise. Economists are saying the oil price doesn't reflect the supply and this is also problematic in the near future. Everyone says Trump has been manipulating the market with his various false announcements. I base these thoughts on among other sources the vids I've watched on Mario Nawfal's X feed. The guests come from all political leanings and ideologies. https://x.com/MarioNawfal

The thing about being stupid is that he doesn't know he is stupid.  So you are not going to get a coherent answer from him.  He is nothing more than another Alex Jones, PillowGuy, Trumpy, Rudy, Navarro, Tucker, and Kash idiot where he claims that there is "mountains of evidence" for his CTs, but yet can't post a single proof.  When he gets called out, he just says "I already have posted it", but yet can't link you to it or repeat it.  Or his next excuse will be "it's coming soon."   Remember that rally on TV that Pillowguy had where he promised to release "all the proof" and did nothing?  Or Kunt Eyed Kash where he promised "evidence of the 2020 being stolen is coming soon", like two months ago?  Yeah, that is Qoach.  Reality doesn't exist in his world.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2862 on: June 17, 2026, 05:28:27 AM »
Yes. It's also a conspiracy theory that they control the media. And that they work as a collective to advance Jewish interests. And that they have dual loyalties in any countries they reside.

They are also very vindictive and cruel by other peoples' standards. An example is that recently a 19 year old said he "doesn't want to work for a Jew." They have vowed to make sure he can never, ever get a job anywhere and that all his days will be miserable here on out.

Absolutely vile.

From what I can gather, younger people do not support them at all.

That's why I think eventually a US administration might drop support for Israel, they could probably even run their campaign on this. And it goes without saying there will a huge backlash from certain lobby groups.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2863 on: June 17, 2026, 05:31:18 AM »
The creation of the terrorist state of israel is one of the worst blunders in the history of civilization.

And the continued funding of them is the second worst.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2864 on: June 17, 2026, 05:33:54 AM »
And the continued funding of them is the second worst.

It's the main reason all the Middle Eastern countries despise the US.

Without this, there wouldn't be much reason for them to be hostile.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2865 on: June 17, 2026, 10:50:43 AM »
Me and chaos have been bickering about the missile stockpiles. He said something to the effect of that if anyone think the US is running out he is an idiot. Now:

"President Donald Trump has invoked the Defense Production Act to force defense companies to manufacture more weapons after the war with Iran depleted stockpiles

In a document signed last week, the president says that he finds “that conditions exist which may pose a direct threat to the national defense or its preparedness programs.”

and another source:

"Recent analysis by the Center for Strategic and International Studies found that the US expended at least 45% of its Precision Strike Missile stockpile, and roughly half of its stockpiles of Patriot air defense interceptor missiles and THAAD missiles."

This was another problem wrt Iran. Not that many Tomahawks left to hit Iran with and not enough for Israel's air defence. But maybe this is just more fake news.

"On Wednesday, Trump said that the last two days of the war were “brutal” and that “$200 million worth of bombs” were used.

“It is expensive too, by the way, aside from everything else,” Trump said, speaking from the G7 summit in France."

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2866 on: June 17, 2026, 11:34:53 AM »
Me and chaos have been bickering
Whoa there Nelly. I'm merely pointing out how you pick and choose to believe only the negative things the MSM writes about the US because of your blind hatred of Trump, you liberal twat.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2867 on: June 17, 2026, 12:43:43 PM »
Maybe those type of missiles are depleted, but the US isn't short of ways to fuck you up.

Either way, they'll replenish.

Yes, I've gathered a little information about it. For example the JDAM supply is almost "unlimited." But each type of weapon has its uses and the US has "needed" to use the Tomahawk against Iran, for example due to range and precision and whatever. The experts say that it's not as easy as ordering an increase in production, you need more infrastructure for example so it takes quite a bit of time to set up. Some have said some of the weapons may take 8 years to replace. I think the rare earth minerals might be somewhat of a problem too if China limits exports, which it does currently and which is a headache for Trump. Trump's tariff war against China certainly didn't help. And his open warmongering against it doesn't either. He was just in China sucking up to Xi (see the over the top praise he gave XI) but left without much.

Just a couple of points by AI

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Rare earth minerals are foundational to modern precision missile production. Essential elements like neodymium, dysprosium, and terbium are used to create the high-performance permanent magnets and sensors in missile guidance systems, fin actuators, and radar. These materials enable weapons to withstand extreme temperatures and maintain sub-meter accuracy.The production and supply chain for these minerals dictate global defense capabilities. Key vulnerabilities and strategies include:

Chinese Dominance: China currently accounts for the vast majority of rare earth mining and refining capacity, and processes roughly 90% of global high-performance magnets.Export

Restrictions: Beijing heavily regulates the export of rare earth metals and associated processing technologies, directly impacting the global defense industry and creating major vulnerabilities for NATO supply chains.


As you know the Patriot system PAC3 missile is something that is also in short supply and currently Zelensky is demanding all countries give up their stocks to him and waits a few years for the US to stock up on.

Whoa there Nelly. I'm merely pointing out how you pick and choose to believe only the negative things the MSM writes about the US because of your blind hatred of Trump, you liberal twat.

Everyone picks and chooses, everyone has biases as I point out all the time, I certainly do. I don't know what I'd call you, you're hardly a conservative in my book. An "American Yahoo" maybe. For many Americans a conservative seems to be someone who simply sucks Jew cock and loves foreign interventionism. Trump is hardly a conservative in many peoples' opinion, for example he supports abortion and homos and he isn't racialist. You know actual liberals would call me a right wing extremist but I'm not married to labels or demand to be called "conservative." I have repeatedly said on here, for example in 2016, and even in 2020, that if I was American I would have voted for Trump, certainly never for Biden or Kamala. What liberal, by your metrics, would have done that? Trump's election platforms, the promises, have been good, but he's chosen to, or felt pressured under duress to, become the same old deep state.

Wish we had leaders like this nowadays, an extract from a speech by guess who (a liberal?):

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The German nation does not wish its interests to be determined and controlled by any foreign nation. France to the French, England to the English, America to the Americans, and Germany to the Germans. We are resolved to prevent the settlement in our country of a strange people which was capable of snatching for itself all the leading positions in the land, and to oust it. For it is our will to educate our own nation for these leading positions. We have hundreds of thousands of very intelligent children of peasants and of the working classes. We shall have them educated -  in fact we have already begun and we wish that one day they, and not the representatives of an alien race, may hold the leading positions in the State together with our educated classes. Above all, German culture, as its name alone shows, is German and not Jewish, and therefore its management and care will be entrusted to members of our own nation. If the rest of the world cries out with a hypocritical mien against this barbaric expulsion from Germany of such an irreplaceable and culturally eminently valuable element, we can only be astonished at the conclusions they draw from this situation. For how thankful they must be that we are releasing these precious apostles of culture, and placing them at the disposal of the rest of the world. In accordance with their own declarations they cannot find a single reason to excuse themselves for refusing to receive this most valuable race in their own countries. Nor can I see a reason why the members of this race should be imposed upon the German nation, while in the States, which are so enthusiastic about these "splendid people," their settlement should suddenly be refused with every imaginable excuse. I think that the sooner this problem is solved the better; for Europe cannot settle down until the Jewish question is cleared up. It may very well be possible that sooner or later an agreement on this problem may be reached in Europe, even between those nations which otherwise do not so easily come together.

The world has sufficient space for settlements, but we must once and for all get rid of the opinion that the Jewish race was only created by God for the purpose of being in a certain percentage a parasite living on the body and the productive work of other nations.The Jewish race will have to adapt itself to sound constructive activity as other nations do, or sooner or later it will succumb to a crisis of an inconceivable magnitude.

What the fella above says has been a problem for Trump as well, as this Iran war has been a prime example of. You can certainly be right wing and be plenty critical of Trump. At the same time the Democrat leadership has the exact same issues, hence "uniparty." Only 1,2 or 3 congressmen oppose this above mentioned parasitism, and Massie was bad mouthed as a complete loser by Trump and had to be driven out by Israel (foreign influence anyone?). We have the same problem here in Sweden. We have a right wing populist party which all the rest of the parties has tried to block from influence like with the AfD in Germany, but which was just in Israel sucking up to The Chosen.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2868 on: June 17, 2026, 01:11:30 PM »
The thing about being stupid is that he doesn't know he is stupid.  So you are not going to get a coherent answer from him.  He is nothing more than another Alex Jones, PillowGuy, Trumpy, Rudy, Navarro, Tucker, and Kash idiot where he claims that there is "mountains of evidence" for his CTs, but yet can't post a single proof.  When he gets called out, he just says "I already have posted it", but yet can't link you to it or repeat it.  Or his next excuse will be "it's coming soon."   Remember that rally on TV that Pillowguy had where he promised to release "all the proof" and did nothing?  Or Kunt Eyed Kash where he promised "evidence of the 2020 being stolen is coming soon", like two months ago?  Yeah, that is Qoach.  Reality doesn't exist in his world.

Yes I've tried to get him to explain his definition of CTs. In 2020 I remember he was quoting some articles about the "Hammer and the Scorecard", some supercomputer vote switch-up. That term somehow stuck in my mind LOL. Just an example of the absolute bullshit CTs he's tried to peddle, so he's one label others LOL. Yours and mine politics are probably the polar opposites but I can still say it's obvious you run circles around him in any flame war. At the same time I don't "hate" Coach, he might be a decent fella in many ways, but IMO he's an uncritical, low information partisan yahoo when it comes to "politics." Though he has said he mostly cares about the gov leaving his guns alone (and one other issue he mentioned I forgot about) :D

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2869 on: June 17, 2026, 03:00:06 PM »
We lost. We're essentially paying them to stay out of the US's hair for a few years, then it will back to the same business as usual.

How can this be? I was told he was playing 4D chess. 5D even!

Never underestimate your opponent. Oh, and never trust Israel.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2870 on: June 17, 2026, 03:28:31 PM »
I don't know what I'd call you, you're hardly a conservative in my book.
You can call me daddy. I would be willing to bet I'm actually "conservative" while you're just a soon to be muzzie convert.  :D How are those call to prayer bells sounding these days? ;D
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2871 on: June 17, 2026, 07:19:38 PM »
We lost. We're essentially paying them to stay out of the US's hair for a few years, then it will back to the same business as usual.

Art of the Kneel, baby  :D

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2872 on: June 17, 2026, 08:26:16 PM »
Sweet Jesus the responses on here 🤦‍♂️

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2874 on: June 17, 2026, 11:13:40 PM »
https://x.com/FoxNews/status/2066995352826175644/video/1?s=46

The old Fox News neocon special.  AKA the people along with the other two retarded networks that brought us Iraq and Afghanistan.  Keep waiting for Wolfowitz and Richard Pearle to join the administration.