Author Topic: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"  (Read 374742 times)

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You morons will take it from a second, third or fourth party source who call themselves “journalists” instead of getting it straight from the horses mouths. Fucking amazing. It’s not a wonder why most of you literally get everything wrong

No, we just read the MOU that is getting signed.  Its not a long or difficult read, there’s no need for anyone to explain it.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-it-full-text-us-iran-memorandum-understanding

LOLOL

6. The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

7. The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned and express their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

Iran is way stronger because of this, money, unfrozen assets, sanctions lifted and able to sell their oil LOLOLOLOL

It’s pretty wild, we’re lifting sanctions that were instituted back in 1980.  Massive win for Iran.

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You morons will take it from a second, third or fourth party source who call themselves “journalists” instead of getting it straight from the horses mouths. Fucking amazing. It’s not a wonder why most of you literally get everything wrong

So are you saying Trump did the right thing by ending the war? The old MAGA, you know all the Trump faithful who backed him through thick and thin for a decade but who disagreed with this particular war and the Jews, and who Trump now calls complete losers, are actually now saying Trump is finally doing the right thing. The new MAGA, which consists mostly of die hard Israel first Zionists and who Trump supports (such as Mark Levin), are saying Trump is making a huge mistake. Like I said above, you were calling for more bombing a while back. Which camp are you in? Do you think like the new MAGA that the Islamist Iranians can't be trusted and who no deals can or should be made with? They also think that Trump should not turn on Netanyahu in this critical moment when Israel can grab more land for its Greater Israel project (in Lebanon).

My prediction, which could easily turn out to be wrong, is that this deal will break any second or maybe it will last a couple of months for the following reason: the only reason Trump felt forced to make this deal, which isn't a binding deal, just a ceasefire, is because the oil absolutely MUST get flowing again, the situation is dire even for the US. Oil experts in the US are sounding the alarm and Trump has had meetings with them recently where no doubt these concerns were relayed to him.
But since this war was to a large extent intended to hurt China, I think the US simply can't let the situation stand as it is now. The overtaking and control of Iranian oil will commence at the earliest opportunity. Remember, just a few days ago Trump promised he would take control over all the Iranian energy. This is what the situation looks like to me, it's not certain knowledge.

It’s pretty wild, we’re lifting sanctions that were instituted back in 1980.  Massive win for Iran.

Indeed, IF it stands. Massive win for Iran and total embarrassment for the US and a huge loss of  US standing in international opinion. The superpower was defeated by dirty muzzies with a tiny fraction of the military budget LOL. At the start Trump was demanding TOTAL SURRENDER of the Iranian regime, nothing less was acceptable and he would personally choose Iran's next leader, Mojtaba was in any case totally unacceptable to him.

It's just that I think this is just a pause due to the catastrophic situation with the Strait. Trump will blame this deal on everyone else and will be looking for the earliest opportunity to start the war again. The weapons situation is problematic though, you don't replace all the stock overnight, might take years even with new laws and incentives for the private weapons manufacturers. An alternative would of course be to nuke Iran, what I have been fearing all along LOL.

What do getbigger think? Will this MOU stand and will a final deal be made?

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Let’s face it. Right now in a live press conference (that I’ll be anything no one on here is watching) you have @VP literally explaining how this deal works and I’ll bet the house the “critics” will spin this and still say “it’s a bad deal” then just make up crap as they go along


Are you fucking shitting me dude, have you even read the MOU? Geez dude, we just gave them everything. I really don’t understand how you spin this as a victory, what we are dealing with right now. Help me see what it is I’m missing because I just can’t find the light in this situation.

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Are you fucking shitting me dude, have you even read the MOU? Geez dude, we just gave them everything. I really don’t understand how you spin this as a victory, what we are dealing with right now. Help me see what it is I’m missing because I just can’t find the light in this situation.

Exactly, I'm surprised Coach isn't calling for Trump to reverse this like the usual "right wing" Fox News new Maga warmongers are doing currently. You know, "the Iranians can't ever be trusted, they were just on the brink of collapsing, please resume the bombing Mr Trump!" This is what Coach was saying just a few days ago, more bombs were going to solve the situation for sure.

EDIT. I mean just take a look at these beauties. FFS! as Coach often replies himself. Now Coach is agreeing with the deal and saying this is a win for the US?!

I disagree with extending the ceasefire no matter what the reason is. Stop the negotiations, keep the blockade and fucking level the rest of what needs to be leveled and end the bloodlines of the proxies
1. How is Iran "humiliating" us? We know you're rooting for Iran win to this, but militarily they lost the in the first week or two and are losing $500mil a day, their economy is all but dead. Even their inflation is approaching 100%.
Trump went in and negotiated and is still negotiating with them ad nauseam knowing they would never follow any kind of deal nuclear. They have NEVER kept their word be it in writing or other wise. He has crippled their economy, losing over $500mil a day and their inflation is at almost 100%. They don't care what happens to their own people in an economic sense and they're still executing people. We've negotiated with them since 1979. IMO, although I know Trump is just playing playing the wait game by letting their total economy dry up I personally think we should just go in level what needs to be leveled and kill who needs to be killed. Despite popular belief, they don't control the Straight. 47 years of "negotiating" Enough negotiating. Go in and end it.


You morons

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We all have pronouns you absolute moron. Mine are sir and he, fuckwit.

The difference between what you are saying and what I am saying is that you are making up shit while I am stating a fact. You competed for the male gaze, oiled up at that.

It's super gay.



Only you insist on you're pronouns.

Just because your shitty boy Physique wasn't good enough to compete
you have to hate on those of us that did at that's a fair few on this board.

I know why don't you go back to threatening me with physical violence  ::)
That should be well worth a laugh or Coming to my address I'm still
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You're so full full of threats yet do Fuck all apart from cry & wimper.


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What an utter failure and capitulation. Embarrassing loss.

Iran is celebrating this fumble and I heard Greenland is asking trump to invade.

Trump literally said they can't get at their nuclear dust from the attack last year yesterday, meanwhile, that was the justification for attacking them.

He is unfreezing more assets then obama and they now have a chip they didnt with the straight of hormuz. You have to be a real sycophant to try and spin this as a win.

You literally or neither anyone else, even though I posted the entire Presser, didn't watch one minute of it.

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No, we just read the MOU that is getting signed.  Its not a long or difficult read, there’s no need for anyone to explain it.

Reading and interpreting it are two different things. The fact you didn't bother listening to its interpretation means 1. You're too lazy to listen or 2. You don't really want to know and either draw you're own conclusions or have someone else do it for you.

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Are you fucking shitting me dude, have you even read the MOU? Geez dude, we just gave them everything. I really don’t understand how you spin this as a victory, what we are dealing with right now. Help me see what it is I’m missing because I just can’t find the light in this situation.

Listen to the GD press conference.

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Try to look at this deal without emotion or zero sum thinking. The idea that Iran has to “lose” for America to “win.”

Pulling out is a genuinely good thing. We shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but the silver lining is that this wasn’t the catastrophic mess we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan. If $300 billion ends up going to Iran, it’s not coming out of American taxpayers pockets like those earlier wars. It’s coming from Gulf countries. And if Iran institutes a toll on the Strait, it mainly hurts the Arab exporters and the Chinese who buy their oil. We don’t rely on that waterway anyway.

Yes, Iran is coming out in a stronger position, but they’ll still be checked by their natural regional rivals. From my perspective, America stepping back and Trump speaking plainly to Israel is real progress.

I’m not viewing this as Trump winning or Iran winning. I’m looking at it as an ordinary American. Whether Iran has more money doesn’t keep me up at night. It didn’t before, and it doesn’t now

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This war was fake and gay from the start. It achieved nothing and made Iran stronger and made the U.S. look like Gomer Pyle. I’m glad my tax dollars funded this thing and will continue to fund shitty big-nosed Middle Eastern countries like Iran and Israel. Once again, fake and gay.

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What type of mental gymnastics does it take to see this - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-it-full-text-us-iran-memorandum-understanding , as a win? This isn't even a tie. It's a rout by the Iranians. We are giving them far more respect than they had, tons of money, and far less oversight. They, for their part, are handing us back a far shittier version of what we already had.

We claim it's different because we are in a position of power? Really, then why were we begging for an agreement for weeks? We have 3rd worlders laughing at us, questioning our position as a superpower.

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Also this whole bit about the Gulf States paying 300 billion is cute, it still diminishes us. $300 billion to a US enemy buys the payer a lot of leverage and ear time in US politics. AIPAC on one side, Saudis on the other, America in the middle, like 'Whadda ya want from me?".

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Try to look at this deal without emotion or zero sum thinking. The idea that Iran has to “lose” for America to “win.”

Pulling out is a genuinely good thing. We shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but the silver lining is that this wasn’t the catastrophic mess we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan. If $300 billion ends up going to Iran, it’s not coming out of American taxpayers pockets like those earlier wars. It’s coming from Gulf countries. And if Iran institutes a toll on the Strait, it mainly hurts the Arab exporters and the Chinese who buy their oil. We don’t rely on that waterway anyway.

Yes, Iran is coming out in a stronger position, but they’ll still be checked by their natural regional rivals. From my perspective, America stepping back and Trump speaking plainly to Israel is real progress.

I’m not viewing this as Trump winning or Iran winning. I’m looking at it as an ordinary American. Whether Iran has more money doesn’t keep me up at night. It didn’t before, and it doesn’t now
How dare you bring logic into this?!?!!? >:(

Kill them all!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Only you insist on you're pronouns.

Just because your shitty boy Physique wasn't good enough to compete
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I know why don't you go back to threatening me with physical violence  ::)
That should be well worth a laugh or Coming to my address I'm still
her waiting with a double barrel shotgun for you or weren't you going
to the police about me??

You're so full full of threats yet do Fuck all apart from cry & wimper.


you're an out & out Poofter.


You are an actual weirdo. Aren't you a geriatric ?

You obviously can't discern a joke, perhaps you are mentally handicapped?

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Try to look at this deal without emotion or zero sum thinking. The idea that Iran has to “lose” for America to “win.”

Pulling out is a genuinely good thing. We shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but the silver lining is that this wasn’t the catastrophic mess we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan. If $300 billion ends up going to Iran, it’s not coming out of American taxpayers pockets like those earlier wars. It’s coming from Gulf countries. And if Iran institutes a toll on the Strait, it mainly hurts the Arab exporters and the Chinese who buy their oil. We don’t rely on that waterway anyway.

Yes, Iran is coming out in a stronger position, but they’ll still be checked by their natural regional rivals. From my perspective, America stepping back and Trump speaking plainly to Israel is real progress.

I’m not viewing this as Trump winning or Iran winning. I’m looking at it as an ordinary American. Whether Iran has more money doesn’t keep me up at night. It didn’t before, and it doesn’t now

Gas/oil is a global commodity, them tolling can cause increases in gas prices worldwide, that's not a fair argument.

Making the stronger is a loss no matter what way you cut it. Your position "that regional rivals will check them" was exactly the same position previous to the war except Iran was weaker, how is that logical?

Iran are getting a sweetheart deal and it's because of trumps brutal miscalculation.

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Told ya

We already know that the spin from Trumpy is as retarded as you are. 

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You morons will take it from a second, third or fourth party source who call themselves “journalists” instead of getting it straight from the horses mouths. Fucking amazing. It’s not a wonder why most of you literally get everything wrong

The horses mouth is as uncredible and dishonest as you are.  Then again you also believed MyPillowGuy and Alex Jones.  Dumbass.

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I woke up with Danimal on my mind today.

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You are an actual weirdo. Aren't you a geriatric ?

You obviously can't discern a joke, perhaps you are mentally handicapped?

Pronoun Boy

You poofter - changing your tune now are you 🙄

And you will have to try much harder if you are trying to insult me.

Carry on being the poofter you are.

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Are you fucking shitting me dude, have you even read the MOU? Geez dude, we just gave them everything. I really don’t understand how you spin this as a victory, what we are dealing with right now. Help me see what it is I’m missing because I just can’t find the light in this situation.

Qoach continues to live up to his reputation as the biggest retard on this board.  That extra chromosome just kicks his short ass daily.   

Trumpy can’t even win the war against algae right now.  He’s a laughing stock right now.  He just reminded the world that how under pressure he jumps to short term distractions and “wins” over long term strategy and benefits.  Total surrender.  Even Pence resurfaces to point out how pathetic it is. 

Next week when the spotlight gets too harsh watch JD start getting blamed.  I thought Kash would be fired before Pete but not so sure now.  Somebody has to take the blame. 

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Pronoun Boy

You poofter - changing your tune now are you 🙄

And you will have to try much harder if you are trying to insult me.

Carry on being the poofter you are.

Poofter?

my tune has never changed. I think its absurd you posed with your ass out. If you are near death old I can go easy on you.

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There's nothing positive at all here for the US.

They got duped by Israel and now Iran is even better off than before.


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Gas/oil is a global commodity, them tolling can cause increases in gas prices worldwide, that's not a fair argument.

Making the stronger is a loss no matter what way you cut it. Your position "that regional rivals will check them" was exactly the same position previous to the war except Iran was weaker, how is that logical?

Iran are getting a sweetheart deal and it's because of trumps brutal miscalculation.

Oil is a global commodity, but thanks to fracking, the US is now a net exporter. We don’t rely on the oil that flows through the strait, so disruptions there don’t hit us nearly as hard as they do countries that actually buy it.

I don’t view a stronger Iran as some major loss for America. I’ve long believed we should get out of the middle east entirely. Whether Iran is stronger or weaker doesn’t change my assessment of this situation as a win or loss. I simply have no horse in the fight between Iran and Israel. My priority is US disengagement.

I agree Trump miscalculated by getting pulled into this conflict in the first place. That said, if it leads to us getting out now, it’s far less damaging than the open ended disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s still a blunder, but at least it doesn’t lock us into decades of entanglement like so many past foreign policy decisions from both parties.

I've said before that Trump should own his mistake, take the L, and move on. This deal is about as close as we're going to get to that. Trump simply isn’t the type to publicly admit he blundered. (Did Kennedy ever admit the Bay of Pigs was a mistake? Has any US president ever fully owned up to Vietnam?) Some people won’t be satisfied unless he makes a public confession, but that’s just not going to happen. At least with this deal, the costs fall on other countries rather than the United States.