2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[Rambone]

I'm blown away by how many America Firsters on this board are really just 2003 era neocons.  Amazing the short term memory on so many.

Right? The naivety of the boomers is a serious issue on both political sides.

[Necrosis]

The icing on the cake is that Trump is too stupid to run the con correctly. The guy claimed Irans nuclear material was buried under a mountain and only the US and China had the ability to remove it. He then attacks them months down the road because they were "weeks away from a bomb"-- only to claim two months into the war that the nuclear material is in fact buried as they previously said.

Orwell predicted this shit with hilarious accuracy and prescience. Don't believe your eyes and ears, just trust them.

[Grape Ape]

My belief is that if Iran had a nuke, we wouldn’t have started this war.  That’s all.

Lol at “Western values on human life”.  Are those the same values that nuked two Japanese cities?  The same values that started a war with Vietnam over a hoax?  The same values that started a war with Iraq over a blatant lie?  The same values that blew up an Iranian girls’ school? 

Frankly, we should be thankful Iran doesn’t share those same “values” with us.

Oh please with WW2.

You keep attempting to draw parallels between events with entirely different contexts.

Ending a major World War, saving a million American lives, and deterring the next one is a far cry from a government that routinely executes it's own citizens and calls for the complete annihilation of another country.

Regardless, if Iran had a nuke, as you say, they'd continue to foster terrorism and proxy wars without fear, and that can't happen.

[Van_Bilderass]

We can tell.

Look, I know it's useless to try to "debate" you but I can't resist mentioning some things. You don't watch or read anything evidently so how can you have an opinion that I'm always wrong? You called me a total idiot for thinking the US is low on critical precision missiles and interceptors yet we have the White House, Trump himself, JD Vance, US ambassador Mike Waltz the other day, ALL the analysts, including the neocon warhawks, saying the exact same thing. Maybe this is a US deception operation trying to fool the Iranians into assuming the opposite since Trump always lies, but I doubt it.

Here's your comment

If you think or believe that the US is low on any missiles, I've got a plot of land on Mars to sell you.

Regarding Iran acting rationally it's self-evident. If my comment is so idiotic you'd give an actual counter argument. All you have is snide comments. It's because you think I just hate America. I don't hate America and Americans as such, I'm against ZOG ( Zionist Occupied Government, just in case the term is unfamiliar). Even you have made comments about Israel is affecting the US negatively or something to that effect. I'm not for the destruction of America, I am for destroying the ZOG though.

TL;DR: In case you are still not understanding my point or haven't read my long posts, Iran is acting very rationally in that it's obviously carefully considering the escalation ladder, not going full retard in a suicidal way. Even Iran inviting further war and attacking ships "for no reason" and supposedly the "violating the MoU terms" is in fact rational, if we put ourselves in their shoes and what's in their best interest. We don't have to like what they do, we may think the US should just launch unprovoked "illegal" wars and kill innocents for oil and for world hegemony, because might makes right and only the strong survive LOL, Iran is still acting rationally.

Even the bolded might be too long for chaos I'm afraid. I'm sorry, I just can't seem to make my point fully with shorter posts

[Necrosis]

Look, I know it's useless to try to "debate" you but I can't resist mentioning some things. You don't watch or read anything evidently so how can you have an opinion that I'm always wrong? You called me a total idiot for thinking the US is low on critical precision missiles and interceptors yet we have the White House, Trump himself, JD Vance, US ambassador Mike Waltz the other day, ALL the analysts, including the neocon warhawks, saying the exact same thing. Maybe this is a US deception operation trying to fool the Iranians into assuming the opposite since Trump always lies, but I doubt it.

Here's your comment

Regarding Iran acting rationally it's self-evident. If my comment is so idiotic you'd give an actual counter argument. All you have is snide comments. It's because you think I just hate America. I don't hate America and Americans as such, I'm against ZOG ( Zionist Occupied Government, just in case the term is unfamiliar). Even you have made comments about Israel is affecting the US negatively or something to that effect. I'm not for the destruction of America, I am for destroying the ZOG though.

TL;DR: In case you are still not understanding my point or haven't read my long posts, Iran is acting very rationally in that it's obviously carefully considering the escalation ladder, not going full retard in a suicidal way. Even Iran inviting further war and attacking ships "for no reason" and supposedly the "violating the MoU terms" is in fact rational, if we put ourselves in their shoes and what's in their best interest. We don't have to like what they do, we may think the US should just launch unprovoked "illegal" wars and kill innocents for oil and for world hegemony, because might makes right and only the strong survive LOL, Iran is still acting rationally.

Even the bolded might be too long for chaos I'm afraid. I'm sorry, I just can't seem to make my point fully with shorter posts

he is a dumb ol fatso bro

[Van_Bilderass]

a far cry from a government that routinely executes it's own citizens and calls for the complete annihilation of another country.

Regardless, if Iran had a nuke, as you say, they'd continue to foster terrorism and proxy wars without fear, and that can't happen.

The US executes its citizens "routinely," there is a death penalty in some states for serious crimes. Coach posted about a wrestler having been executed by the Iranian regime. I said he was accused of hacking to death police officers. Coach's reply: "good." But if that happened in the US the wrestler might be executed too. Furthermore, during various US protests Trump has wanted to put military against them and also to shoot at them. So on what grounds can the US condemn Iran for putting down a protest that was admittedly fostered and enabled by Israeli Mossad? Yet furthermore, it's now claimed the regime killed 45,000 protesters. What this figure is based on you can see in the attached pictures. Also, Saudi routinely executes homos and adulterers and protestors via decapitation by sword and Trump and his family are very friendly with them and even wants them to have nuclear and thus a possibility to make nukes. These are Sunni MUSLIMS FFS! LOL

Regarding your second point, it's said Iran is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism. I say the US is by far the biggest. The US has admittedly fostered, built and supplied with weapons numerous Sunni MUSLIM Jihadi designated terrorists to do the US's dirty work. Israel does the same. Donald fkn Trump has hosted in the WH and praised a Sunni Jihadist head chopper who's killed Americans as I've posted about many times.

The US is involved in numerous proxy wars. Ukraine is a current example. And now the US is complaining because Russia and China are helping Iran LOL. So all these complaints against Iran on moral or legal grounds ring hollow, to me at least. BTW, the US wants to dismantle the ICC because it put out warrants for Netanyahu's arrest, saying the ICC absolutely can't do that. But the US had no complaints when Putin was issued warrant earlier LOL.

[Van_Bilderass]

he is a dumb ol fatso bro

I'm trying to be cordial with him and my posts are "serious" and rarely with any name calling unless called names or attacked first. It doesn't bother me, this is Getbig and expected, but still. He called me old but then refused to give his own age LOL. If my posts are idiotic then at least rebut something by saying why exactly you disagree. My posts are long because I'm explaining the basis of my opinions