Father of school shooter convicted of murder

[LurkerNoMore]

The father who gifted the gun to his son Colt Gray is convicted of murder after his son used it to shoot up a school. 

Do you think this is just?

[tatoo]

idk...... if he knew the kid was fucked in the head or had issues, then yes...

[beakdoctor]

Total fucking bullshit.

[illuminati]

I'd need to know a lot more information to make a decision.
Potential I can see he does have at least some responsibility & questions
To answer.

[LurkerNoMore]

Ok there are shades of the legal aspect of this that reminds me of a case about 15 years ago.  A man found out his wife was cheating on him and was crying to his best friend.  He asked his friend if he could borrow his gun and the friend gave it to him.  The man then drove to where the cheaters were and killed both of them and then himself. 

The jury found the friend that gave him the gun guilty of manslaughter.   (Or 2nd degree.  I forget which)

[LurkerNoMore]

Link to current story


https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/us/colin-gray-murder-trial-verdict

[illuminati]

Ok there are shades of the legal aspect of this that reminds me of a case about 15 years ago.  A man found out his wife was cheating on him and was crying to his best friend.  He asked his friend if he could borrow his gun and the friend gave it to him.  The man then drove to where the cheaters were and killed both of them and then himself. 

The jury found the friend that gave him the gun guilty of manslaughter.   (Or 2nd degree.  I forget which)

!! Again I can see why he could be held to account for giving his friend the gun.
Knowing that his friends wife was shagging someone else.
And seeing his friend upset & likely mentally unstable.

[joswift]

If I give a guy $40 to get a meal for himself and when he gets to the restaurant the owner gives him a free meal.
The guy then buys a gun with the money and kills someone.

Am I responsible for the killing because I gave him $40 or the restaurant owner for giving him a free meal?

[illuminati]

If I give a guy $40 to get a meal for himself and when he gets to the restaurant the owner gives him a free meal.
The guy then buys a gun with the money and kills someone.

Am I responsible for the killing because I gave him $40 or the restaurant owner for giving him a free meal?

Neither of you are responsible- as likely you were not aware of his intentions to want to kill someone.
Would / should the gun shop owner be held partially responsible for selling him the gun ?

[Lartinos]

If I give a guy $40 to get a meal for himself and when he gets to the restaurant the owner gives him a free meal.
The guy then buys a gun with the money and kills someone.

Am I responsible for the killing because I gave him $40 or the restaurant owner for giving him a free meal?

Exactly, unless you knew what he was going to do and purposely supplied it.

It’s either he’s an accomplice or not I’d think.

I ain’t no lawyer though.

[Stephano]

This is like that Ancient Chinese practice where if somebody was a heinous enough criminal, or was guilty of treason, they'd not only execute him, they'd execute his entire family.  "Uh, they should have known better. Society's better off without them." 

China stopped doing that hundreds of years ago, though, and they formally abolished it in 1905.

This is kind of ridiculous.  Where the fuck did they find that retarded jury?

[AbrahamG]

The father who gifted the gun to his son Colt Gray is convicted of murder after his son used it to shoot up a school. 

Do you think this is just?

Yes.  100%

[LurkerNoMore]

Yes.  100%

Same here.  They even said his father refused to get him mental health services or address his episodes.

[AbrahamG]

Same here.  They even said his father refused to get him mental health services or address his episodes.

He was 14.  He should NOT have had access to that gun without parental supervision.  Plus, what you just said. 

[chaos]

He was 14.  He should NOT have had access to that gun without parental supervision.  Plus, what you just said.

This.

[Dave D]

He was 14.  He should NOT have had access to that gun without parental supervision.  Plus, what you just said.

Also, if I’m not mistaken, the police visited the previous year due to rumors that the son threatened to shoot up the school.

Sad situation all around.  Let’s say the kid took the car and ran down students would we still hold the father responsible?

[AbrahamG]

Also, if I’m not mistaken, the police visited the previous year due to rumors that the son threatened to shoot up the school.

Sad situation all around.  Let’s say the kid took the car and ran down students would we still hold the father responsible?

That's not what happened.  Dad bought a troubled 14 year old a gun.  Said 14 year old had unfettered access to the gun and committed mass murder.  What is the purpose of the question you raised?

[SF1900]

I was initially on the fence about this; in America, we don’t hold people accountable for other people’s behaviors. However, per Georgia law:

Even if a parent signs off on possession, Georgia law prohibits a parent or guardian from furnishing or permitting possession of a handgun by a minor if:
   •   The parent knows the minor is engaging in conduct that violates the handgun possession laws and fails to try to stop it;
   •   The parent is aware of a substantial risk the minor will use the handgun to commit a felony — and does not take reasonable steps to prevent it;
   •   The minor has been convicted or adjudicated delinquent for certain serious offenses.
If these things occur, the parent can face felony charges — punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine — for furnishing or permitting handgun possession. 

Even though he used an AR-15, father can apparently still be charged.