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Suicide - why are people doing this?
« on: Today at 10:33:02 AM »
In the last week, I won't say friends as I don't really have many, but certainly friends of friends have killed themselves.
Also, id say friends, extended family, people I know, stands at about 15 suicides in the last 5 years.
 
Why do you think people are doing this?  My godfather says its chemicals in food and drink causing depression leading to this...

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #1 on: Today at 10:39:57 AM »
I feel very bad for the people who are at such a dark and low point in their life to consider suicide.
I think contributing factors would be past traumas, unresolved issues that grew, and how their brain is wired.
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #2 on: Today at 11:31:24 AM »
Suicide usually is a permanent solution for a temporary problem.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #3 on: Today at 11:40:41 AM »
I feel very bad for the people who are at such a dark and low point in their life to consider suicide.
I think contributing factors would be past traumas, unresolved issues that grew, and how their brain is wired.

Depends i guess.
I remember as a child those absolutely closest to me telling me I was
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #4 on: Today at 11:43:53 AM »
A guy I went to high school with had a younger sister that killed herself after he graduated.  But their home life was REALLLLLLLLLLYYYYY fucked up with all this religious crap.  They were basically prisoners.  When she saw what happened after he left for college, she couldn't take it anymore and didn't want that future for herself and killed herself.

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« Reply #5 on: Today at 12:29:22 PM »
     
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I knew a bunch of people who used the suicide solution to get out of life. some of the reasons= one girl I knew in high school her mother stole her boyfriend so she offed herself. One guy got caught embezzling from his bank job and couldn't handle the embarrassment. One guy thought he was hot shit in H.S. found out he wasn't so much out in the real world. So one day on his break from his dish washing job at a shitty diner blew his brains out. two others I knew had brain tumors both used a gun to off themselves. and there were others.
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #6 on: Today at 01:04:54 PM »
I get it completely. It seems wonderful. Everyone always feels so bad for the people left after the death. How about feel good for the man who is at peace finally. I’m on the edge daily to do the same. Life just isn’t as good for some as others and people make life altering mistakes they can’t take back.

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« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:22:28 PM »
I get it completely. It seems wonderful. Everyone always feels so bad for the people left after the death. How about feel good for the man who is at peace finally. I’m on the edge daily to do the same. Life just isn’t as good for some as others and people make life altering mistakes they can’t take back.


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Re: Suicide
« Reply #8 on: Today at 01:23:53 PM »
I get it completely. It seems wonderful. Everyone always feels so bad for the people left after the death. How about feel good for the man who is at peace finally. I’m on the edge daily to do the same. Life just isn’t as good for some as others and people make life altering mistakes they can’t take back.

exactly, people say its selfish think about the people left behind. Well fuck think about the person living with a fucked up head or hating live, hating the world and just tired of all the bullshit. I can say with 99% certainty Ill be going this route within a few years. No interest in living in pain or the absolute shithole Canada has become. However, i wont go quietly

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #9 on: Today at 01:25:46 PM »
maybe youre a jinx...

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:37:09 PM »
Jesus guys cheer up.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #11 on: Today at 02:25:34 PM »
some people are just perpetually depressed. Like most of their wake time is mostly negative feelings like dredd, anxiety and suffering. Famous people like Chester Bennington in Linking park and autor/writer David Foster come to mind.

If you have read things said by them often you can tell in retrospect that they where always suffering and wanting to off themselves, even when very young.

as for reasons I think mostly genetic predisposition. And also can be childhood trauma and because of that trauma substance abuse which only worsens it.
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #12 on: Today at 03:41:30 PM »
some people are just perpetually depressed. Like most of their wake time is mostly negative feelings like dredd, anxiety and suffering. Famous people like Chester Bennington in Linking park and autor/writer David Foster come to mind.

If you have read things said by them often you can tell in retrospect that they where always suffering and wanting to off themselves, even when very young.

as for reasons I think mostly genetic predisposition. And also can be childhood trauma and because of that trauma substance abuse which only worsens it.

ya Chesters songwriting sure foretold his end

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #13 on: Today at 03:56:09 PM »
If I could snap my fingers and be dead I would do it in a heartbeat. Also I need a very violent ending so I couldnt go with pills or hanging. Would have to be a bloody gun battle or something. Either way I am excited that one day I get to make the decision.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #14 on: Today at 04:06:09 PM »
If I could snap my fingers and be dead I would do it in a heartbeat. Also I need a very violent ending so I couldnt go with pills or hanging. Would have to be a bloody gun battle or something. Either way I am excited that one day I get to make the decision.

Rob dont you have children?
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #15 on: Today at 04:12:11 PM »
"My work is done...why wait?" -- George Eastman, founder of Kodak

Eastman suffered from severe physical problems and killed himself.
His maladies may have resulted from his exposure to the toxic effects of film chemicals.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #16 on: Today at 04:26:29 PM »
All I will say is this

My mom committed suicide as did my best friend

The worst is you are always questioning yourself what if I did this or that called more etc

I used to have dreams I was down in hell with my mom for several years after that I could not sleep it was scary

If you are thinking of this please talk to someone cause it does hurt those who care about you

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #17 on: Today at 04:50:47 PM »
A guy I went to high school with had a younger sister that killed herself after he graduated.  But their home life was REALLLLLLLLLLYYYYY fucked up with all this religious crap.  They were basically prisoners.  When she saw what happened after he left for college, she couldn't take it anymore and didn't want that future for herself and killed herself.

Ok, I will elaborate further for those in DMs.  And then you can decide if she was validated in taking her own life.   When I was in high school there was this guy Corey who was a year ahead of me.  His sister was a couple years younger.  Their home life was really fucked up.  I mean FUCKED UP.  Their parents were super religious.  But it wasn't a religion that I know of.  Not a certain branch or anything.  Corey would never talk about it.  But their parents believed Satan was in anything and everything.  Always trying to corrupt them.  They didn't even have a TV in the house because that was "how Satan was trying to enter their home".  No radio.  Christmas?  Didn't celebrate it.  Thanksgiving?  Nope.  Halloween?  Are you kidding.  Corey was 17 as a senior and had never been to a movie theater, never celebrated his birthday or gone to a classmate's birthday party, never had toys like GI Joe, Transformers, He Man, etc.. (they were from the devil) or even had a lunch from the school cafeteria.  They would wake up and have "worship service", breakfast and then to school.  Home and doing homework, dinner at 6pm followed by "worship service" and then in bed by 8.   At lunch time the two of them (he and his sister) had to sit in an empty classroom and eat lunch they brought from home.  You know how Mondays are the day every high school student dreads?  Well in this case, Corey loved Monday because then he could ask about the TV shows we were watching and movies we had seen over the weekend.  Never had a pair of Nikes because Michael Jordan only worshipped money.  Never been to Disney World because it was "all a trick to enslave children by Satan".  It was BAD!!!

Ok, so Corey graduated and was accepted by the University of Georgia.  You would think that at this point, his life would just be starting.  That he would have all these amazing college experiences and such.  No.  He left for college and his father went with him.  They had a small apartment a mile from campus and lived there together.  Following the same routine.  Waking, worship, school, lunch from home, back home early dinner, worship and then bed.

Corey's sister was just as miserable as he was.  But her hope and saving grace was that she was going to college and then could to do what she wanted.  Then she saw that their father went with Corey.  And her mother was planning to do the same with her when she graduated and went to college (move in and live together).  She was in the ninth grade at that time while I was a senior and just decided she couldn't go through another 3 years of high school and 4 years of college under than control.  Especially since her brother was the only outlet she had for talking and feeling normal and he was no longer around.  So she made her exit.

Now some people can say they understand how overwhelmed and depressed she was.  Others say that had she stuck it out another 7 years and finished college, she could say fuck off and go do whatever she wanted with her life.  But 7 years is a long time when you are in a position like that. 

Granted, once she decided and acted upon her decision  there was no going back and no second guesses.  No take backsies or second chances.  By expecting her to wait until she finished college it was like condemning her to further mental torture and abuse.   After Corey graduate from high school, I never saw him again.  Sometimes I wonder how he is doing and how he turned out.

I am amazed at the number of people on here who are struggling with mental health issues and have thought of ending it.  It is always good to reach out to someone if you are feeling this way. 

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #18 on: Today at 05:16:03 PM »
Rob dont you have children?

Yeah 3. They are Better without me. I’m insane. Everyone always said to me when I wa you get you will grow out of this, give it time. Well I never grew out of how I felt. I want to smash someone in the face right now as bad as I did 25 years ago. It never ends. Every moment of every day is violent thoughts. Driving, walking,in a store, half asleep, it don’t matter. I hate people so much. I find it very hard to see the good in anyone. I trust no one.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #19 on: Today at 05:19:20 PM »
The essence of consciousness, pure being, cannot be killed. To know one's true identity as already formless brings freedom from suffering. Every night we plunge into the absolute albeit unconsciously. People who cannot sleep deeply suffer because of it, but few would say or science be willing to accept that without transcendental meditation mental health suffers but it really does. That's what suicide is about, transcending suffering or trying to. Better buck up and meditate like a warrior and care for those who love you, to live a long life and eventually go out on one's shield and straight to Valhalla. According to sources of wisdom suicide casts the soul into even worse torment, when we have nightmares we feel relieved to come back to the body awareness, suicide would be like being stuck in a horror show with no way out for what seems like a long time, but eventually the soul will taste a bit of relief before being cast into a life where the circumstances could well be worse than before, thats what makes sense to me anyway.

I shagged a girl once on the beach, a former bikinii competitor. Actually I have shagged a few broads on da beach.  She had alot of trauma and had being abused badly. I was not up for a long term relationship though, a few years later she topped herself and I wondered for a while about it and felt bad.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #20 on: Today at 05:49:04 PM »
I wonder what it feels like to be like most people here who couldn’t imagine what it’s like to feel this way. Mia be great. Enjoy that. I can’t think of a truly happy time in my life and know I never will. So who fucking cares. I’d rather be asleep forever and never get up again. Imagine no thought, no stress,no anger,no pain, no nothing. Ahhhhhhhh. Peace. Never had peace.

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Re: Suicide - why are people doing this?
« Reply #21 on: Today at 06:16:17 PM »
In the last week, I won't say friends as I don't really have many, but certainly friends of friends have killed themselves.
Also, id say friends, extended family, people I know, stands at about 15 suicides in the last 5 years.
 
Why do you think people are doing this?  My godfather says its chemicals in food and drink causing depression leading to this...

Your godfather is correct.

A Ketogenic Diet for Treatment-Resistant Depression
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Ketogenic Diet Intervention on Metabolic and Psychiatric Health in Bipolar and Schizophrenia: A Pilot Trial
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A pilot study examining a ketogenic diet as an adjunct therapy in college students with major depressive disorder
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The Ketogenic Diet for Refractory Mental Illness: A Retrospective Analysis of 31 Inpatients
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Ketogenic metabolic therapy in the remission of chronic major depressive disorder: a retrospective case study
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The Potential Role of the Ketogenic Diet in Serious Mental Illness: Current Evidence, Safety, and Practical Advice
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Ketogenic diet as a metabolic treatment for mental illness
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Re: Suicide - why are people doing this?
« Reply #22 on: Today at 06:55:09 PM »
International Association for Suicide Prevention - IASP

If you are feeling suicidal, you are not alone and there is support available. You deserve to feel supported.

https://www.iasp.info/suicidalthoughts/

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #23 on: Today at 07:20:12 PM »
I find it very hard to see the good in anyone.

that's because everyone is fundamentally bad.. stop looking.