Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?

[AbrahamG]

I know it was about more than two buildings coming down.

It seemed to signal a shift in the world far beyond any terror organization has with USA.

The world changed that day and not for the better. The trickle down effect has left us with retards in elected positions and every generation since is more weak and mentally ill. It also began the divisiveness that defines our country today. It also began the blatantly left-biased MSM.

Not really.  For the next 2 years, the media bent over backwards being patriotic and kissing Bush's retarded ass. 

[chaos]

Not really.  For the next 2 years, the media bent over backwards being patriotic and kissing Bush's retarded ass.

I really noticed the medias left turn when the gay president got into office. I think that was the start of a ton of race baiting and the whole gender bullshit all going mainstream.

[AbrahamG]

I really noticed the medias left turn when the gay president got into office. I think that was the start of a ton of race baiting and the whole gender bullshit all going mainstream.

I think when Keith Olbermann took over 8pm on MSNBC he really opened peoples eyes to what was going on with Iraq and Afghanistan and from there it just snowballed. 

[chaos]

I think when Keith Olbermann took over 8pm on MSNBC he really opened peoples eyes to what was going on with Iraq and Afghanistan and from there it just snowballed.

Probably. Around that time I was still living on the fringes and not paying attention to most of society.

[Humble Narcissist]

I think when Keith Olbermann took over 8pm on MSNBC he really opened peoples eyes to what was going on with Iraq and Afghanistan and from there it just snowballed.

Very few watched his show.

[Irongrip400]

You're seriously saying you have no questions about how the twin towers fell?

That's the thing I find so disturbing.  There are hundreds of millions of Americans that have completely accepted the story about how the twin towers fell.

Questions? Sure. But, I have a pretty strong knowledge of how to deconstruct a building and have spoken to controlled demolition experts who do it for a living, and don’t believe the CT’s surrounding the towers. Buildings, once compromised, can come down easy. Those towers were built for space, clear span floors with all the support on the outer steel cage and the interior elevator shafts. Once the exterior was compromised and all that jet fuel ran into the last part with any integrity, and ran down and heated the steel, it was over. Once the levels give out it’s a domino affect and the free fall begins.

[AbrahamG]

Very few watched his show.

Simply untrue.

[GymnJuice]

No questions about #1 in my mind.

Do people still think Cutler should have won?

[WrongAdvices]

If they had been able to pull this off they never would have let Trump get elected much less again.

[Palumboism]

Experts Speak Out:

[joswift]

Bin Laden wanted to bankrupt the West
It cost $500k to bring down the twin towers, the USA spent $500 billion in its retaliation

He planned short quick and cheap attacks and then retire to a sfe place... not safe enough unfortunatly

[Humble Narcissist]

Simply untrue.

His ratings were terrible. Bill O'reilly had 10X the viewers on FoxNews.

[AbrahamG]

His ratings were terrible. Bill O'reilly had 10X the viewers on FoxNews.

It's not the point.  The point is/was that he was the 1st member of the mainstream media to harshly critique the atrocity of invading Iraq. 

[Van_Bilderass]

If they had been able to pull this off they never would have let Trump get elected much less again.

Conspiracy theory: they let Trump win because he decided to keep his mouth shut about 9/11.

Not really serious about that. But back to what I asked earlier, either Trump realized he was wrong or he keeps the inside job secret. I think it's possible that the towers came down as the official narrative claims although I think it's possible it was "let happen."

BTW, if elections are always fixed or at least can be, as the conspiracy theorists claim, why did they let Trump win? I have another crazy conspiracy theory: Trump is the Deep State. Just look at what he's done wrt Russia and how he's in the pocket of The Tribe. These points are hard to argue I think. I mean just as an example, Trump just told Zelenskiiyy that he can build the Patriots in Ukraine. The Deep State decided decades ago that Russia must fall. Was it just performative theater when he chewed out Z at the WH and said Ukraine started the war and that Ukraine can't win or has he since been unable to say no to the Deep State?

Please no name calling, totally serious bro questions

[Never1AShow]

Conspiracy theory: they let Trump win because he decided to keep his mouth shut about 9/11.

Not really serious about that. But back to what I asked earlier, either Trump realized he was wrong or he keeps the inside job secret. I think it's possible that the towers came down as the official narrative claims although I think it's possible it was "let happen."

BTW, if elections are always fixed or at least can be, as the conspiracy theorists claim, why did they let Trump win? I have another crazy conspiracy theory: Trump is the Deep State. Just look at what he's done wrt Russia and how he's in the pocket of The Tribe. These points are hard to argue I think. I mean just as an example, Trump just told Zelenskiiyy that he can build the Patriots in Ukraine. The Deep State decided decades ago that Russia must fall. Was it just performative theater when he chewed out Z at the WH and said Ukraine started the war and that Ukraine can't win or has he since been unable to say no to the Deep State?

Please no name calling, totally serious bro questions

These points are not hard to argue, look at the entire structure of the American MSM, the political establishment class (Dem and Rep both), the federal judiciary, Academia, and practically all previously "venerable" institutions in the US arrayed against him constantly, but Yeah he's the Deep State.  He's in the tank for them, that's why they threw out practically all the rules in an effort to stop him getting re-elected in 2024.

[Humble Narcissist]

It's not the point.  The point is/was that he was the 1st member of the mainstream media to harshly critique the atrocity of invading Iraq.

True, but he was against everything Republicans did so he was bound to be right some time like the broken clock.

[WrongAdvices]

If Trump somehow pulls out the midterms then I’ll be convinced he’s a time-traveler

[ProudVirgin69]

You're seriously saying you have no questions about how the twin towers fell?

That's the thing I find so disturbing.  There are hundreds of millions of Americans that have completely accepted the story about how the twin towers fell.

Two airliners flew into them at hundreds of miles an hour.  300,000lbs x 500mph is a shitload of energy concentrated into a relatively small area.  Is totally within the realm of possibility that it would bring down a skyscraper.

Is it possible that they rigged the towers up with explosives?  Sure, but seems less likely than the possibility that flying two commercial airplanes at high speed would collapse a skyscraper.  Plus if they were gonna rig it with explosives, why bother with the hijackings?

WTC 7, flight 93, and the pentagon seem more suspicious to me, personally

[Beefjake]

Two airliners flew into them at hundreds of miles an hour.  300,000lbs x 500mph is a shitload of energy concentrated into a relatively small area.

WTC 7, flight 93, and the pentagon seem more suspicious to me, personally

Google bird strikes on 747. Those are fucking seagulls smashing the front of fuselage and windscreens.
There is no way that those aluminium alloy wing would just glide right thru solid steed beams and structural glass.

Image that if the plane would be stationary and you swatted it with this huge skyscraper. What would happen. The plade would explode to pieces and debris would fly everywhere.
Not plane imbedding itself to the building.

Building 7, Flight93 are giveaways. Pentagon had a fuselage hole, not even holes for 8metric ton steel engines at wings.

Flight 93 left hardly any debris. Because it sunk into earth. Look at any crash site pics. It just won’t happen.

[illuminati]

Google bird strikes on 747. Those are fucking seagulls smashing the front of fuselage and windscreens.
There is no way that those aluminium alloy wing would just glide right thru solid steed beams and structural glass.

Image that if the plane would be stationary and you swatted it with this huge skyscraper. What would happen. The plade would explode to pieces and debris would fly everywhere.
Not plane imbedding itself to the building.

Building 7, Flight93 are giveaways. Pentagon had a fuselage hole, not even holes for 8metric ton steel engines at wings.

Flight 93 left hardly any debris. Because it sunk into earth. Look at any crash site pics. It just won’t happen.

Absolutely spot on.  I do not understand why folk cant fathom that out.

[WrongAdvices]

I think 9/11 is the limit of people being able to understand things. Too easy post-9/11 to fool enough with junk nonsense theories and too many crooks and grifters and dishonest media to ever be able to relegate the idiots to “the fringe” anymore.

Too many like Hankins, living a lie/fantasy online on other people’s money.

[Van_Bilderass]

These points are not hard to argue, look at the entire structure of the American MSM, the political establishment class (Dem and Rep both), the federal judiciary, Academia, and practically all previously "venerable" institutions in the US arrayed against him constantly, but Yeah he's the Deep State.  He's in the tank for them, that's why they threw out practically all the rules in an effort to stop him getting re-elected in 2024.

I was saying that wrt Russia and Israel specifically he's behaved exactly in line with the Deep State. Those specific points are hard to argue I think. And many would say those foreign policy issues are the real consequential issues that matter to the DS aka Permanent State, the cultural LGBTQ stuff and whatever is just inconsequential ridiculous fluff. As you know many of his most fervent supporters turned against him for continuing the same old Deep State government policies. He's surrounded and influenced by the same old neocons and the Jewish donors and Bibi and so on so I think it's hard to argue that he has managed to drain the swamp, or do you feel he has done that?

The idea behind the Deep State "conspiracy theory" states that the exact president chosen doesn't really matter, that there are levels above the puppet or front man.

Absolutely spot on.  I do not understand why folk cant fathom that out.

Ok let's say it's obvious the official story is fake and gay. What necessarily follows is that since Trump now has had access to all secret information about 9/11 for two terms in office he's now evidently lying about it, or at least keeping his mouth shut about it. If there's such a thing as a Deep State that conspires against the populace through various schemes and psy-ops then Trump is it. You feel me?

[Van_Bilderass]

I think 9/11 is the limit of people being able to understand things. Too easy post-9/11 to fool enough with junk nonsense theories and too many crooks and grifters and dishonest media to ever be able to relegate the idiots to “the fringe” anymore.

Too many like Hankins, living a lie/fantasy online on other people’s money.

Many feel the government/Deep State itself poisons the well and inserts various conspiracy theories into the debate so that many dismiss all conspiracy theories, real conspiracies, as kookery

These people claim the term "conspiracy theory" was actually coined by the CIA through a conspiracy LOL, as a term with which you can dismiss off hand all even legit criticism of the official line.

But I agree with you largely. Like people were willing to believe directed energy weapons in the case of 9/11, nanobots in the vaxx or exploding mike and Egyptian planes in the Charlie Kirk killing. When real conspiracies should be enough, like the population replacement conspiracy or the Jewish control of US foreign policy, as Nick Fuentes has been saying. With 9/11 IMO there have been several related conspiracies though, no need to grab onto ridiculous stuff like the planes being holograms.

My idea is to always ask how many people would necessarily need to be involved in a given conspiracy and could they all keep it secret?

[Palumboism]

Two airliners flew into them at hundreds of miles an hour.  300,000lbs x 500mph is a shitload of energy concentrated into a relatively small area.  Is totally within the realm of possibility that it would bring down a skyscraper.

Is it possible that they rigged the towers up with explosives?  Sure, but seems less likely than the possibility that flying two commercial airplanes at high speed would collapse a skyscraper.  Plus if they were gonna rig it with explosives, why bother with the hijackings?

WTC 7, flight 93, and the pentagon seem more suspicious to me, personally

The official report says the towers fell because of the fire softening the trusses allowing the outer columns to bow outwards.  This is the first time in history a fire has cause a steel building to collapse.  The report also states the fire was the result of the flame retardant office furniture setting on fire. 

The fires were oxygen starved and you can tell that by the black smoke.  They weren't burning very hot.  You can hold a 750 degree flame under a steel beam forever and it won't soften which is why barque grills don't soften because of the heat.

Almost all of the fuel was burned outside the the building with the huge fireball on impact.  The fuel tanks ruptured and the intense heat generated by impact ignited it immediately in the presence of abundant oxygen.  Heat rises, so all the heat was expelled outside the building.  The fire inside the building was simply not hot enough to soften the trusses. 

At no point did the investigators look for explosives.

Infrared showed temperatures inside the rubble of over 1200 degrees yet there is no oxygen in there to allow for combustion.  Thermite would allow this because thermite has it's own oxygen source.  It's basically a give away that thermite was used to cut the columns. 

[Irongrip400]

The official report says the towers fell because of the fire softening the trusses allowing the outer columns to bow outwards.  This is the first time in history a fire has cause a steel building to collapse.  The report also states the fire was the result of the flame retardant office furniture setting on fire.

It burned because after they started building it, asbestos was outlawed in construction and they used bullshit fireproofing on the beams. You can literally see it in the rubble piles where the bottom floor steel was uncompromised