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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2026, 06:30:24 AM »
What would it be?  Hot Stuff?  Ultimate Orange?  Jack3d?  M1T?  Craze?

Or something different?
Hot stuff, the old granular dissected liver type of test boosters, the old NO xplode, and the old cell tech, and yes, ephedrine lol

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2026, 07:38:15 AM »
I have the "second generation" pamphlet somewhere.  The one that was updated from the original.  If I remember correctly, the quad program was :

1 set squats 4-6 reps to failure
immediately go to 4-6 reps of negative to failure
immediately reduce weight 50% and go to 4-6 reps failure
immediately go to 4-6 reps of negatives to failure

You were supposed to do something like 3 rounds of this with very little rest in between.  Next quad workout out, you did this again but with a 10lb increase.


**EDIT**  Just found the original one that shipped when Cybergenics first came out.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/55298992/cybergenics

This PDF and Duchaine’s original USH PDF both belong in the Bodybuilding Hall of Fame

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2026, 07:40:08 AM »
This PDF and Duchaine’s original USH PDF both belong in the Bodybuilding Hall of Fame
Yes!

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2026, 08:10:18 AM »
This PDF and Duchaine’s original USH PDF both belong in the Bodybuilding Hall of Fame

What was Duchaine's about?  Any link?

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2026, 08:14:13 AM »
What was Duchaine's about?  Any link?
Steroids.

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2026, 08:22:31 AM »
Steroids.

Body Opus diet

A genius and very interesting writer, a shame he passed so early.

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2026, 09:35:47 AM »
I wish the guy would've mentioned which mags he found it in, here's the Zumpano Rebound Diet, Duchaine really like this one, a lot of his later stuff had some basis around it. -

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Skip to 3 or so minutes in if you just want the bones of it. That channel has some interesting stuff.


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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2026, 09:41:59 AM »
I wish the guy would've mentioned which mags he found it in, here's the Zumpano Rebound Diet, Duchaine really like this one, a lot of his later stuff had some basis around it. -

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Skip to 3 or so minutes in if you just want the bones of it. That channel has some interesting stuff.

"cascade of growth"

What a load of fucking shite

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2026, 10:17:56 AM »
Body Opus diet

A genius and very interesting writer, a shame he passed so early.
Are there any photos of the original Ultimate Orange label to see the ingredients? I tried looking online but only founds ads and photos of the can. Is it possible to recreate Ultimate Orange homemade? What would be a sub for ephedra? Is Alpha Yo even somewhat close?

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2026, 10:59:24 AM »
Are there any photos of the original Ultimate Orange label to see the ingredients? I tried looking online but only founds ads and photos of the can. Is it possible to recreate Ultimate Orange homemade? What would be a sub for ephedra? Is Alpha Yo even somewhat close?

I had a pic of the original label but can't find it, I did write down the original formula free hand though -

Ultimate Orange -
Carbohydrates 16g
Protein - 25g
MaHuang shooting for a standardization of 8% - 415mg (about 33mg of Ephedrine)
Caffeine - 300mg in the form of Gurana.

They did studies though, and many times the batches were overdosed, sometimes by 2 1/2 times. A lot of the old MaHuang stuff was.

When you opened an Ultimate Orange container it was wild, it was like someone uncapped a bunch of Diet Fuel capsules and dumped them in Tang powder. Sometimes they'd still be leaves and tiny branches ;D.


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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2026, 01:29:01 PM »
I had a pic of the original label but can't find it, I did write down the original formula free hand though -

Ultimate Orange -
Carbohydrates 16g
Protein - 25g
MaHuang shooting for a standardization of 8% - 415mg (about 33mg of Ephedrine)
Caffeine - 300mg in the form of Gurana.

They did studies though, and many times the batches were overdosed, sometimes by 2 1/2 times. A lot of the old MaHuang stuff was.

When you opened an Ultimate Orange container it was wild, it was like someone uncapped a bunch of Diet Fuel capsules and dumped them in Tang powder. Sometimes they'd still be leaves and tiny branches ;D.

Lmao!!

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2026, 08:41:25 PM »
Superdrol

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2026, 05:00:13 AM »
Arnold Schwarzeneggers Aminovit Germany late 80s

You can buy the empty can for 399,99$ on eBay


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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2026, 06:27:04 AM »
Body Opus diet

A genius and very interesting writer, a shame he passed so early.
That was the second one, the first one was the Underground Steroid Handbook (USH).  A short pamphlet with a brown cover, Body Opus came later.  The USH revolutionized the sport because it was really the first widespread dissemination to the masses what was going on in the high-level competitive BB world.  It was also wonderfully snarky and at times wise.

Someone really should be able to dig up a PDF but it's surprisingly absent from the Internet.

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2026, 06:36:38 AM »
So ephedrine, the cheapest easiest to procure thing in the 80s as mini-thins is the best supplement.  Somewhere in that Handbook Duchaine said something like "food doesn't work like drugs, food is food, protein powder is food, drugs are drugs"

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Re: If you could bring back one supplement in it's original form..
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2026, 11:32:13 AM »
So ephedrine, the cheapest easiest to procure thing in the 80s as mini-thins is the best supplement.  Somewhere in that Handbook Duchaine said something like "food doesn't work like drugs, food is food, protein powder is food, drugs are drugs"
So true