Agreed.
There are 8 genders
You’re either a liar, the best spin doctor on getbig or just flat out ignorant…
This framing comes largely from progressive movements within Reform Judaism — not from Orthodox or traditional Jewish scholarship. Some scholars warn against importing modern meanings into ancient legal discourse. The Talmud is being selectively mined, not faithfully interpreted.
The Talmud was categorizing biological realities for legal purposes — not endorsing modern gender ideology. These are very different things.
This list has been widely circulated online — often by progressive activists — to argue that the concept of multiple genders is ancient and religiously grounded.
This framing involves a significant misreading of what the Talmud is actually doing. Here's why:
1. These are legal categories, not identity categories. The Talmud names these categories across many tractates in the context of legal debate — scholars and modern Jewish movements disagree about whether these classical categories map onto today's concepts of gender identity, with some warning against importing modern meanings into ancient legal discourse
2. The Talmud was addressing biological edge cases, such as intersex conditions (androgynos, tumtum) and natural hormonal anomalies, to determine how Jewish law applied to them — not to celebrate or endorse a spectrum of gender identities.
3. Categories like Aylonit and Saris describe conditions that today would be classified as intersex or hormonal disorders — real biological phenomena acknowledged by medicine. Recognizing these doesn't mean affirming that gender is fluid or self-determined.
The Catholic Response
The Catholic faith fully acknowledges that rare biological conditions exist — including intersex conditions — and responds to those persons with compassion and dignity. That is not in dispute.
What the screenshot is actually being used to argue — that gender identity is a spectrum, that human beings can define or redefine their sex — goes far beyond anything the Talmud teaches. It also contradicts the order written into creation itself.
Genesis 1:27 is unambiguous: "God created mankind in his image; in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."
The existence of rare biological anomalies does not overturn the normative reality of sexual dimorphism any more than color blindness overturns the reality of color.
The Talmudic categories are being weaponized anachronistically — pulled out of their legal context and dropped into a modern gender ideology framework that their authors never intended and would not recognize.
