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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2026, 11:51:35 AM »
Remember loading up a bunch of CDs into a disc changer in the trunk?

Was never lucky to have that.

But I'm not old school on this - love having any song I want instantly.
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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2026, 11:55:02 AM »
Was never lucky to have that.

But I'm not old school on this - love having any song I want instantly.
Nothing beats fast forwarding and rewinding the cassette to find the beginning of your favorite song. 8)
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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2026, 03:22:15 PM »
Daniel Ek first had the idea for Spotify around 2002 when peer-to-peer music service Napster shut down and another illegal site Kazaa took over. Ek said he "realized that you can never legislate away from piracy. Laws can definitely help, but it doesn't take away the problem. The only way to solve the problem was to create a service that was better than piracy and at the same time compensates the music industry

Spotify was founded in April 2006 in Stockholm, Sweden, by Daniel Ek and Martin Lorentzon.

The Spotiify Service launched service launched in several European countries in 2008 including France, United Kingdom, Sweden, and Spain. 

To launch the service Ek needed to get all the large record companies to release their entire catalogs.  How did he do this and why did they agree?

First he gave all the record companies shares in Spotify.  Most of the companies sold these shares early on earning them in excess of $500 million each.

At the time Sweden was viewed as a lost market.  The copyright laws in Sweden didn't make sharing copyrighted material a crime, so piracy was not frowned upon.  It's no coincidence that Pirate Bay was founded in Sweden.

I would assume the UK, France, and Spain were almost as bad as Sweden regarding piracy, so they were viewed as lost markets.

Had piracy not weekend the record companies so badly, I don't believe they would have ever signed a deal like Spotify.

The Spotify service would launch in America in 2011.  Similar services from Amazon, YouTube, and Apple have since launched as well with all off them offering the same catalogs Spotify offers.


The compensation Spotify pays to the record labels is notoriously low, around a third of a penny, with artist making even less.

Snoop Dog disclosed he had a song with a billion streams and was paid less than $45,000 for that.

So, the record labels are making more the ever the artist are struggling.  Record companies are even getting a percentage from the artists on concerts. 

What's your opinion of streaming?
 


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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2026, 03:39:57 PM »
Palumboism: When did carts get invented for radio studios?

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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2026, 03:41:29 PM »
Was never lucky to have that.

But I'm not old school on this - love having any song I want instantly.
I think Shazaam is the greatest invention. Love how easy it is to identify a song you’re hearing somewhere.

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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2026, 03:52:18 PM »
Palumboism: When did carts get invented for radio studios?

Audio tape cartridges, carts, and the Fidelipac are all just different names for the same thing.

In 1954 George Eash developed the Fidelipac (carts, audio tape cartridge) which was a closed loop recording used by radio stations for commercials and jingles.

Radio station carts are what the 4 track and 8 track tapes are based on. 




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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2026, 04:02:23 PM »
The Pirate Bay's letter response to legal threats from Dreamworks in 2004.

This just goes to show how different the laws are in Sweden and why The Pirate Bay and Spotify both originated there.

Sweden was a lost market for the record companies and Spotify gave them a way to be compensated for music in Sweden.

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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2026, 04:11:22 PM »
I think Shazaam is the greatest invention. Love how easy it is to identify a song you’re hearing somewhere.

Yeah, that's cool too.

Spotify is near perfect, IMO.
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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2026, 06:28:45 PM »
Europe has done such a poor job with tech startups.  It's baffling that they don't tout Spotify as a huge success in tech and hold Daniel up as someone revered like a Steve Jobs type.  Spotify is a startup story that Europe should be trying to learned from. 
 
Good interview of the founder of Spotify Daniel Ek.

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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2026, 07:30:54 PM »
I think Shazaam is the greatest invention. Love how easy it is to identify a song you’re hearing somewhere.

I hate when it doesn't find the song :D

I often become a little obsessed with finding some song I hear in the background of a video for example. I remember hearing a song 35 years ago and I still haven't found it :D

Spotify is near perfect, IMO.

Yeah it's amazing. Although some of my preferred music isn't allowed on there though the censorship has lessened, which is great.

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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2026, 04:00:13 AM »
I don't miss casette tapes. It was a hasstle to reverse and forward to the right point to start a song. And they would often get messed up in roll and sometimes get stuck in the player.

CD's was pretty cool. You actually took time to listen through a bands whole album when you bought a CD. And you found some nuggets you liked yourself that others didn't. That is kind of missed today as you just get the "top songs" from artists on spotify/youtube and what not.

Alot of things where better in the 90's but in regards to tech not really. It's mustly nostalgia wanting to relive your younger days and missing it.
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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2026, 04:02:49 PM »
What about the boom boxes people balanced on their shoulders while walking down the street?!

Here's a brief history of boom boxes.  When they first came out in the late 70's and early 80's the price was over $2500 adjusted for inflation.  By the mid 80's they were smaller, but more affordable.  The Sharp QT-12R shown below was $150 in 1983, which is $500 adjusted for inflation today. Compared to the JVC RC-M90 shown below, which was $550 in 1981, which adjusted for inflation was $2000.  People were spending big money on boom boxes.

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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2026, 04:36:51 AM »
Yeah, that's cool too.

Spotify is near perfect, IMO.


Had to google what spotify costs, as I hate ads (always use a free ad blocker and free vpn) I would have to pay 14 euros per month or 168 euros per year! No way in hell. I download and thus own tracks from a site that charges only a few cents per song.

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Re: From the Vinyl LP to Spotify
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2026, 11:33:25 PM »
You guys are so nostalgic, gosh!