October 7 - 3 Year Anniversary

[Van_Bilderass]

Its the name Hamas gave to the Oct 7th slaughter.

The people of Gaza voted for Hamas but perhaps they were forced to do so. I sympathize with them, though many Palestinians have brought radical attitudes and vile crimes to Europe.

OK thanks, I've heard the term or name many times but didn't understand what it was. Israel actually supported Hamas as a counter to other unifying alternatives like the PA so they wouldn't be pressured to seriously consider a peaceful two state solution or even a one state solution. Israel doesn't want Palestinians there period. Muslim terrorism can be beneficial in the grand scheme of things.

a 3 year genocide of people in a confined area and still 5.7 million of the Palestinians left

Isreal isnt very good at Genocide.

I'd say that's callous way of looking at things, minimizing the absolute atrocity that's been committed.

Worth to consider:

Under international law, genocide is defined as specific violent or destructive acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.
The term was coined in 1944 by Polish-Jewish lawyer Raphael Lemkin. He combined the Greek word genos (meaning race, tribe, or nation) with the Latin suffix -cide (meaning killing). It was officially codified as an independent international crime under the United Nations 1948 Genocide Convention.

The 5 Acts of Genocide

According to Article II of the UN Genocide Convention, genocide does not only mean mass killing. It includes any of the following five physical acts if they are done with the specific intent to destroy a protected group:

1. Killing members of the group.

2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.

3. Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction (such as depriving them of food, water, or medical care).

4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group (such as forced sterilization).

5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The Crucial Element: "Intent"

To legally classify an atrocity as genocide, prosecutors must prove specific intent (dolus specialis). This means the perpetrators must actively target the victims because of their membership in the group, with the explicit goal of wiping the group out. Large-scale civilian casualties during a war, while devastating, are not legally classified as genocide unless this specific intent to physically destroy the identity group can be proven.

[Coach is Back!]

What did you expose?

You are one to talk about slop LOL, after being exposed as the worst slop peddler on here.

You're the one who says sources are slop and conspiracy theories but then when I cite the sources and argue how the info can be supported you fall silent and fall back on the "bro debate technique" which is about power displays and about finding some personal weakness in the other guy which you can then attack instead of the actual argument. It has nothing to do with truth, facts or about finding some common ground amidst disagreements. I realize it's ridiculous of me to be this "serious" on fucking getbig but just showing how juvenile and weak you are for a 64 year old man.

You are not interested in whether Israel created Hamas or not, get real.

If I wasn't interested I wouldn't for a fact they didn't..but you go on with your little Jew fantasy that they did. Now go ahead and follow this up your opinion, an unnamed source and a meme.

[Van_Bilderass]

If I wasn't interested I wouldn't for a fact they didn't..but you go on with your little Jew fantasy that they did. Now go ahead and follow this up your opinion, an unnamed source and a meme.

Did you see what I said about sourcing? You're not interested in none of that, you're never serious, all you do is unfounded character attacks. Israel itself didn't create Hamas, not by itself. Israel supported it and allowed it to grow, allowed funding with hundreds of millions, it was sort of an ally - fact. So depending on your vantage point you could say Israel created Hamas. Would Netanyahu do as a source?? Forget it, don't answer.

You have zero credibility talking about sources and memes.

Let me ask you this: did Obama found ISIS? Trump says he did. Speaking of vantage points.

[BigRo]

Islamic terrorism beneficial? Come on.

[GymnJuice]

Islamic terrorism beneficial? Come on.

It sounds counterintuitive, but these groups don't all get along with each other. I think the US plays them off one another to keep the region fragmented and weak as a whole. It's not farfetched to believe the US and Israel backed certain terrorist groups to undermine the Assad regime in Syria. Just look at the CIAs documented history of working with narcoterrorists in South America in the Iran Contra affair.

[Van_Bilderass]

Islamic terrorism beneficial? Come on.

You're supposed to be a thinking man. I don't know if you "care" about this at all, doesn't seem like it, so how would you know about any of the background.

Right now in Israel, before the elections, Bibi is attacked for his Hamas support. He is attacked by the allegation that he allowed Oct 7 to occur, because it was "beneficial." You can certainly argue about Oct 7, but no one argues that he never supported Hamas.

It sounds counterintuitive, but these groups don't all get along with each other. I think the US plays them off one another to keep the region fragmented and weak as a whole. It's not farfetched to believe the US and Israel backed certain terrorist groups to undermine the Assad regime in Syria. Just look at the CIAs documented history of working with narcoterrorists in South America in the Iran Contra affair.

None of this is even controversial. Then someone comes in with a doofus knee-jerk reaction like Coach always does.

Even neo-Nazis are supported in Ukraine. Shudder.