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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #25 on: Today at 02:35:23 PM »
So in other words most CCW holders are incompetent and dangerous?

Most no, some yes. Even though in this country we have a right to legally own a firearm for protection. My point was that having a CCW doesn't automatically make someone a proficient shooter and should train. Most can shoot gun. In that video I specifically say that some maybe CCW holders.

It looks like it's even dangerous to go to an indoor range.

Another reason I rarely even go to indoor ranges but then again, like Chaos said, that's what the rangemaster is for. I'm also a certified RSO

And that's without factoring in the possible mental immaturity or instability. Now arguing over a parking space makes you draw your weapon.
1. Carrying a firearm is ONLY for defensive purposes in imminent threat situations. Not if someone takes your parking space..lol. 2. CCW holders are some of the most law abiding and responsible people the country


Shooting a gun is the easy part, the hard part is making decisions when you need it. That's why you train. But just because you have the right to carry doesn't mean you should.

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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #26 on: Today at 02:49:04 PM »
Get Kyle Rittenhouse, Coach is Back, and the Heroic CCW holder on Trump’s Security staff ASAP

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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #27 on: Today at 03:22:22 PM »
Shooting a gun is the easy part, the hard part is making decisions when you need it. That's why you train. But just because you have the right to carry doesn't mean you should.

Are there any incidents of whack jobs killing people in a gun range?

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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #28 on: Today at 03:32:17 PM »
Are there any incidents of whack jobs killing people in a gun range?

Donny recently posted a video of a cop who accidentally shot himself while he was teaching a gun safety course.

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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #29 on: Today at 03:33:33 PM »
Are there any incidents of whack jobs killing people in a gun range?

Some yes. Chris Kyle was murdered on gun range. Suicides, etc.

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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #30 on: Today at 04:16:49 PM »
So in other words most CCW holders are incompetent and dangerous?

It looks like it's even dangerous to go to an indoor range.

And that's without factoring in the possible mental immaturity or instability. Now arguing over a parking space makes you draw your weapon.

It's not real dangerous at all. You don't get many accidents at ranges when you consider how many go. You get do get suicides occasionally,, and at rural public ranges you get the occasional murder because criminals know they're good robbery spots if they find someone alone.

What people do do at ranges is screw around a bit, because they're not messing up their own property. You get guys shooting their most powerful stuff that they've only shot one or two times before, or you get them practicing trick shots. The most common serious range injury is someone shooting themselves in the leg when drawing the pistol.

The ceiling shots are usually new shooters or non-shooters (some people go on shooting dates, etc....) that are holding the gun up getting ready to shoot, then get scared by someone shooting in the next booth.

Also I wouldn't consider police better shots either. You'd have to check for Sweden, but here in the States, many police only shoot once or twice a year to pass proficiency exams. Also since most personal shooting are up close (less than 35 feet) one could argue that it is nerves that keep people from being good shots at a certain point. Historically only 10-20% of people were willing to shoot at a human with any type of deadly intent.


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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #31 on: Today at 04:21:16 PM »
Some yes. Chris Kyle was murdered on gun range. Suicides, etc.

I thought that was on the way to the range? Either way, you’d think some whacko could just start shooting people but I guess they don’t because of the deterrent of gun toting people. But, I’d think a suicidal nut could go in there and kill what they’d think were a bunch of “maga type” folks. Surprised there’s not more mass shootings to be honest. The climate today is crazy, politically speaking.

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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #32 on: Today at 04:40:53 PM »
I thought that was on the way to the range? Either way, you’d think some whacko could just start shooting people but I guess they don’t because of the deterrent of gun toting people. But, I’d think a suicidal nut could go in there and kill what they’d think were a bunch of “maga type” folks. Surprised there’s not more mass shootings to be honest. The climate today is crazy, politically speaking.

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Re: School shooting at elementary school
« Reply #33 on: Today at 05:49:28 PM »
It's not real dangerous at all. You don't get many accidents at ranges when you consider how many go.

I was kidding a bit there, I didn't think it can be that dangerous or they would have outlawed it.

But regarding who I'd think would be responsible enough to carry a gun around I know many people who I'd rather not see have a gun on them. I don't think there's really such a thing as concealed carry here in Sweden, and off the top of my head I don't know anyone who has guns period. I'm not against guns and if I lived in the U.S. I'm sure I'd have them but "gun rights" doesn't seem like such a black and white issue. For example considering how unhinged many people are, even people with no criminal record, no diagnosed severe mental illness etc. I think it's an interesting subject, what restrictions should there be?

Coach mentioned Chris Kyle. Should the vet who killed him have had the right to own guns? I think he had a PTSD diagnosis. If the mentally ill shouldn't own guns, what constitutes a disqualifying mental illness?