The Dark Reality Of Pro Bodybuilding

[_bruce_]

Coach avoiding this thread like a tall shelf in a supermarket.

horrors beyond comprehension for manletkind

[Coach is Back!]

Coach avoiding this thread like a tall shelf in a supermarket.

Easy there cupcake. I’ve forgotten more than both of you will ever know but I digress. Why would I be avoiding it? I’m not obsessed and turn notifications on when someone posts you loon. But I see you’re still hiding and I have another obsessed fan.

[Raymondo]

Why did you lie about when you started taking gear, o paragon of integrity?

[IroNat]

Would you say great monetary rewards would compensate for poor health and early death? People always say bb is not worth it because there's no money in it so why risk your health? I never saw much logic in that.

Regarding health risks of steroids, Coach mentioned seeing Andreas Cahling recently. He has a certain perspective. I think Coach started steroids at 15 via doctor's Rx.

An anecdote: a lifting buddy told me 30 year ago that he used to sometimes lift with Andreas and they would do GHB. Andreas would fall asleep on a bench and they roused him so he would go to the bathroom to do some blow.

I was being sarcastic, van.    The English language is not easy to interpret even for native speakers.

According to Andreas Cahling, steroids are not harmful, except for shutting down your testes so you need to be on trt for life.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Now, of course, this happens to long-term users.  The old-timers who did a 8 week cycle once a year for a contest during a brief competitive career did not suffer these permanent effects.

Today, people are insane with what they take.

Regarding Coach and his teen use, I'm surprised Dr. Kerr prescribed a 15-17 year old any steroids, let alone a stack of multiple steroids.
Perhaps Kerr did not and Coach did this stacking on his own via the gym pusher?

Coach, would you clarify this?

Coach, do you think your early steroid use closed your growth plates prematurely?

[IroNat]

Why did you lie about when you started taking gear, o paragon of integrity?

I can't fault Coach for lying about such things.

He is being ten times more honest than most.

[BB]

Kerr was big into sports and cataloging steroid effects. He liked to be first, and loved having sportsmen on his resume. Claimed 5000+ sought his counsel.

Whenever you hear about about oldtime doctors prescribing health kids steroids, two common things show up, the docs interest in sports or homo stuff. Sometimes one or the other, sometimes both.

[getbigger1]

I concluded that staying natural is the best for the average guy.

[Royalty]

I concluded that staying natural is the best for the average guy.

[getbigger1]

Huge without being stupidly huge, powerful looking, lean without being stupidly lean and imo an aesthetic physique many can appreciate. That's a great everyday look, easy to maintain without a ton of gear.

[Van_Bilderass]

I was being sarcastic, van.    The English language is not easy to interpret even for native speakers.

According to Andreas Cahling, steroids are not harmful, except for shutting down your testes so you need to be on trt for life.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Now, of course, this happens to long-term users.  The old-timers who did a 8 week cycle once a year for a contest during a brief competitive career did not suffer these permanent effects.

Today, people are insane with what they take.

Regarding Coach and his teen use, I'm surprised Dr. Kerr prescribed a 15-17 year old any steroids, let alone a stack of multiple steroids.
Perhaps Kerr did not and Coach did this stacking on his own via the gym pusher?

Coach, would you clarify this?

Coach, do you think your early steroid use closed your growth plates prematurely?

I think the use was more extensive than 8 weeks once a year. Time off, but you don't build a champion physique in just 8 weeks.

Arnold started young as well. For sure as a teen, but there's been claims like by that Kurt Marnul guy that he started at 13!

I think Coach was pretty clear that the stack was prescribed.

Testes shutting down is probably not that big of a worry, compared to many other effects. In teens, I also think of brain development.

Whenever you hear about about oldtime doctors prescribing health kids steroids, two common things show up, the docs interest in sports or homo stuff. Sometimes one or the other, sometimes both.

 

[Bevo]

Coach avoiding this thread like a tall shelf in a supermarket.

Haha poor coach

[Royalty]

Huge without being stupidly huge, powerful looking, lean without being stupidly lean and imo an aesthetic physique many can appreciate. That's a great everyday look, easy to maintain without a ton of gear.

[Coach is Back!]

I think the use was more extensive than 8 weeks once a year. Time off, but you don't build a champion physique in just 8 weeks.

Arnold started young as well. For sure as a teen, but there's been claims like by that Kurt Marnul guy that he started at 13!

I think Coach was pretty clear that the stack was prescribed.

Testes shutting down is probably not that big of a worry, compared to many other effects. In teens, I also think of brain development.

 

I don’t think I discussed any stack that was prescribed. The orals were 5mg ciba dbol, 1cc Deca where I had to into the office each week for four weeks. Second cycle might have went something like this. 5mg dbol, 2.5mg avavar, 100mg deca for 6-8 weeks. No test was ever given. I wasn’t going Kerr at 15 because I couldn’t drive yet and my parents sure as hell didn’t know let alone take me. Your turn, sluth.

You can’t remember what you say from post to post much less almost 50 years ago

[Van_Bilderass]

I don’t think I discussed any stack that was prescribed.

I'm only reading what you write.

My first cycle was through Dr. Robert Kerr at 16. It was d-bol and then some

How should I have interpreted that? Now you say your first cycle wasn't through Kerr but that's not what you said there. If I'm still misreading tell me.

I don't intentionally try to misrepresent someone. Mistakes may happen.

You can’t remember what you say from post to post much less almost 50 years ago

I'm not perfect but is it not possible you forgot what you've said on here previously yourself? Regarding the age one starts it just seems to me it would be something a person remembers, but maybe not. Now you do claim to remember you did use steroids before Kerr despite it being 50 years ago. If I'm understanding you correctly?

This is not a huge deal to me and I tried to be fair to you in my previous replies.