Author Topic: Has anyone heard "Little Hercules" speak? (Read 19736 times)

Stavios · « **Reply #50 on:** May 10, 2006, 07:11:45 AM »

Shawn, serious question here.

Are people really interessed in meeting little hercule ?
I mean is there a line up to speak to him ?

Lift Studios · « **Reply #51 on:** May 10, 2006, 07:16:30 AM »

At the Arnold the kid had a ton of people getting autographs and talking with him. Give him some props - he's had more mainstream media exposure and commercial work then most people in bodybuilding ever will.

Stavios · « **Reply #52 on:** May 10, 2006, 07:21:24 AM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on May 10, 2006, 07:16:30 AM

At the Arnold the kid had a ton of people getting autographs and talking with him. Give him some props - he's had more mainstream media exposure and commercial work then most people in bodybuilding ever will.

I know lift, not hating on the kid.

But my little brother is 14 also and looks way better $:-\$

If I were at a bodybuilding show, I wouldn't wait 10 second to shake his hand. Hell even is there wasn't a line up and he would be all by himself, alone at a table, I still wouldn't go shake his hand.

I know he had a lot of exposure but what did he do that was THAT great ?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #53 on:** May 10, 2006, 07:22:43 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 10, 2006, 07:21:24 AM

I know lift, not hating on the kid.

But my little brother is 14 also and looks way better $:-\$

If I were at a bodybuilding show, I wouldn't wait 10 second to shake his hand. Hell even is there wasn't a line up and he would be all by himself, alone at a table, I still wouldn't go shake his hand.

I know he had a lot of exposure but what did he do that was THAT great ?

He looked better when he was younger and he still has residual fame from that.

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #54 on:** May 10, 2006, 07:54:06 AM »

Quote from: Shawn Ray on May 10, 2006, 07:07:59 AM

The kid is NOT sponsored by VYO Tech, I know because I help in the hiring process of sponsored athletes.
That being said, he is making a "Guest Appearance" at the VYO Tech Booth to meet and greet the fans of our sport.
This board is full of misinformation and you guy schime in , pile onto stuff you have no clue about.
Thank goodness, I'm here for you all!
S. Ray

Is VYO Tech paying him an appearance fee? Is he showing up for free?

If he is being paid (be honest, he's not doing it for free) do you agree with a bodybuilding supplement company paying a 14 year old to represent them? And don't pretend he doesn't represent them, he's there for them and being paid by them then he represents them.

Do you think 14 year olds should be paid by bodybuilding supplement companies to represent them at shows?

Do you see anything morally wrong with a 14 year old that was force fed steroids by his father when he was a child representing a bodybuilding supplement company?

Please enlighten the masses since you're the only one that knows what's going on.

Jerryme7 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:03:51 AM »

I dont think it was proven that his father gave him steriods.

I thought the kid was tested and was negative?

Cause if the kid tested positive, dont you think it would have made CNN or some other major news stations as a form of child abuse?

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #56 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:05:41 AM »

Quote from: Jerryme7 on May 10, 2006, 08:03:51 AM

I dont think it was proven that his father gave him steriods.

I thought the kid was tested and was negative?

Cause if the kid tested positive, dont you think it would have made CNN or some other major news stations as a form of child abuse?

I'm guessing you still believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.

Jerryme7 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:08:20 AM »

I ask you this....where has it been documented or publicized in newspapers or media that he tested positive for steriods?

The documentary has the manager saying that the father put some sort of white powder in Hercules shakes but it wasnt determined what it was.

You never answered if the kid was tested or not? If so I like to know

I believe he was tested negative...

Shawn Ray · « **Reply #58 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:10:00 AM »

Little Herc has a presence in our sport like it or not.
The simple fact that he is a kid developed beyond his years is not a punishment.
You praise athletes when they do things we can only dream of but hate on the ones in places you could never be.
We are working with him in a non sponsored capacity, on developing a seminar circuit of public speaking to Kids on the benefits of healthy eating and training.
We are looking to help in the fight against Obesity which starts in grade school.
Little Herc is articulate and fits the bill to speak on this to kids in his age group, as someone like Ronnie might be too intimadating, or 240 doesn't look the part, Onlyme, well you can answer that!

Regardless, Little Herc drew a huge turn out at the ASC and is in popular demand for appearances around the world! Not to mention dude is a rising Star in Hollywood!

Of course a grown man wouldn't care about a kid signing pictures but guess what....Kids Do!

Come join us: www.coloradoproshow.com
S. Ray

240 is Back · « **Reply #59 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:11:17 AM »

Wow, many would consider the poor kid a victim. Shawn considers him an attraction!

Jerryme7 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:14:57 AM »

No...Shawn considers Little Hercules a blessing and a person that can influence children to eat better and lead a more healthy and active lifestyle.....

I understand better now.

Shawn Ray · « **Reply #61 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:17:25 AM »

I consider him a smart kid working on his career in Physical Fitness and Hollywood.
Dont get it twisted 240, the line he has when signing pictures speaks for itself.
The fans consider him an attraction.
S

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #62 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:18:03 AM »

Quote from: Shawn Ray on May 10, 2006, 08:10:00 AM

Little Herc has a presence in our sport like it or not.
The simple fact that he is a kid developed beyond his years is not a punishment.
You praise athletes when they do things we can only dream of but hate on the ones in places you could never be.
We are working with him in a non sponsored capacity, on developing a seminar circuit of public speaking to Kids on the benefits of healthy eating and training.
We are looking to help in the fight against Obesity which starts in grade school.
Little Herc is articulate and fits the bill to speak on this to kids in his age group, as someone like Ronnie might be too intimadating, or 240 doesn't look the part, Onlyme, well you can answer that!
Regardless, Little Herc drew a huge turn out at the ASC and is in popular demand for appearances around the world! Not to mention dude is a rising Star in Hollywood!
Of course a grown man wouldn't care about a kid signing pictures but guess what....Kids Do!
Come join us: www.coloradoproshow.com
S. Ray

Again, you didn't even come close to answering any of my questions.

Is VYO Tech paying him? Do you agree with a bodybuilding supplement company paying a 14 year old to represent them at a bodybuilding show?

Do you see anything morally wrong with a 14 year old that was force fed steroids as a child by his insane father representing a bodybuilding supplement company.

And please don't tell me VYO Tech is trying to eradicate childhood obesity out of the goodness of their heart. There is something in it for them.

Please stop spinning rhetoric and answer some pointed questions.

240 is Back · « **Reply #63 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:18:31 AM »

Quote from: Jerryme7 on May 10, 2006, 08:14:57 AM

No...Shawn considers Little Hercules a blessing and a person that can influence children to eat better and lead a more healthy and active lifestyle.....

I understand better now.

Jerry, you're drinking the KoolAid. That kid has a level of size and cuts impossible for kids with diet alone. The fact that he looked better at 8 than he does at 14 speaks VOLUMES to this. He is getting smaller, not bigger. It is pretty obvious what was in those 'secret milkshakes' he drank, the contents upon which his father would punch an interviewer before answering

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #64 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:19:35 AM »

Quote from: Shawn Ray on May 10, 2006, 08:17:25 AM

I consider him a smart kid working on his career in Physical Fitness and Hollywood.
Dont get it twisted 240, the line he has when signing pictures speaks for itself.
The fans consider him an attraction.
S

The fans consider him a freak show. It's almost sad that this kid has been exploited from day one. For Christ's sake this is a kid, we're not talking about an adult.

Stavios · « **Reply #65 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:21:12 AM »

Shawn, I think it is a great thing is Vyo-Tech really wants to decrease the % of obesity. way to go

Jerryme7 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:22:42 AM »

240, he isnt getting smaller. He just isnt as cut as he was.

Being cut gives an illusion that you are bigger than what you actually are.

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #67 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:22:50 AM »

Quote from: Jerryme7 on May 10, 2006, 08:08:20 AM

I ask you this....where has it been documented or publicized in newspapers or media that he tested positive for steriods?

The documentary has the manager saying that the father put some sort of white powder in Hercules shakes but it wasnt determined what it was.

You never answered if the kid was tested or not? If so I like to know

I believe he was tested negative...

I'm asking you seriously because I don't know you but are you a moron?

Do you really think this kid was drug free? Earth to idiot, wake up and open your eyes.

I'm guessing you think Barry Bonds is drug free as well.

The picture below is of a child under 9 years old, think about that for a second. I know it's hard to actually comprehend but please do try.

Jerryme7 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:27:46 AM »

You dont think proper supplementation and nutrition can do this? Has it ever been done before to someone so young? Do you think it is possible? Do you know of any kid who was imposed to be on a strict nutrition and training program at that age?

I believe it is possible and this kid could actually be genetically blessed.

Ive seen a few kids who had abs and small striations at that age but these kids were never put on a program like this kid was....

Im no moron, chump

240 is Back · « **Reply #69 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:29:07 AM »

can someone please post a pic of the kid 5 years ago, compared to now? He should have gone through puberty and should look incredible now. Instead, he looks like a fit kid with abs. WIth supplements and all the "in's" that comes with being a star, he should be looking better than ever.

Seriously, you really believe the kid was natural? I taught 3rd grade a few years back. I had kids who ate vegan, did every sport, and had health nut docs as parents, and NO eight year old looked anything remotely NEAR this kid. The kid clearly had chemical assistance. To state otherwise reeks of naivety.

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #70 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:30:19 AM »

Quote from: Jerryme7 on May 10, 2006, 08:27:46 AM

Im no moron, chump

What did the Santa Claus bring you for Christmas?

Did the Easter Bunny hide any chocolate eggs in your back yard this year?

Yeah, you're no moron.

Do you think O.J. has never killed anyone either?

The point you seem to be missing is that this kid actually built muscle at a time when his body was producing very little testosterone. How exactly does a 7-8 year old build muscle?

Jerryme7 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:31:00 AM »

And one thing to mention...have you seen this kid's discipline at martial arts? He is incredible so advanced at such a young age.

When he wass doing an exhibition on Howard Stern I was impressed at his kicks and puches and at the speed he can do this.

Have you ever seen any kid at that age disciplined like this in martial arts at that age? I havent..

Jerryme7 · « **Reply #72 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:32:52 AM »

Please...I believe OJ is guilty but he had very good lawyers and money. And also it would have been a race card if he was found giuilty...

I guess youre ignorant to the fact that things can be possible huh?

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #73 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:33:50 AM »

Please explain to me what this kids proficiency at kicks has to do with him building muscle as a 7 year old?

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #74 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:35:54 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 10, 2006, 08:29:07 AM

The kid clearly had chemical assistance. To state otherwise reeks of naivety.

Don't let Jerry know, apparently he things it's no big deal for a 7 year old to add muscle.