Why steroid use is cheating

[Man of Steel]

You have small man vision.

First of all Haney in his prime would wipe the floor with any competitor today even without the added pharma.

Second with the added pharmaceuticals he would make Ronnie look average.

Third attempting to make logic out of my posts is pointless. I am mister logic.

No, I just easily look beyond the shallow noob arguements that are repeated thread after thread and get to bare bones and reality more quickly.

What I already said implies that the Haney of the past would beat many competitors today, but he wouldn't take the top guys....sorry, but he wouldn't....they're simply ahead of a prime Haney.

Again, what I already said implies that by using today's drugs he'd become "an instant threat"....whether he'd be better than Ronnie (or all of the 1st tier pros) I couldn't say, but he would certainly be part of that 1st tier mix (as would Yates and Arnold and others).

No, you're mister peterpuffer.
 

[LuciusFox]

 This argument has turned into a pissing contest

[alexxx]

No, I just easily look beyond the shallow noob arguements that are repeated thread after thread and get to bare bones and reality more quickly.

What I already said implies that the Haney of the past would beat many competitors today, but he wouldn't take the top guys....sorry, but he wouldn't....they're simply ahead of a prime Haney.

Again, what I already said implies that by using today's drugs he'd become "an instant threat"....whether he'd be better than Ronnie (or all of the 1st tier pros) I couldn't say, but he would certainly be part of that 1st tier mix (as would Yates and Arnold and others).

No, you're mister peterpuffer.
 

Listen to me boy... Haney's torso dwarfs anybody's onstage today. Point final!

[Man of Steel]

Listen to me boy... Haney's torso dwarfs anybody's onstage today. Point final!

AHAHAHA!!  "boy"...you so fuggin pathetic.   Your statement would be correct if we were arguing in 1988.

[alexxx]

AHAHAHA!!  "boy"...you so fuggin pathetic.   Your statement would be correct if we were arguing in 1988.

The thruth hurts. Get over yourself little guy.

[Man of Steel]

The thruth hurts. Get over yourself little guy.

Alexxx, you lost the moment you decided to challenge me.

[alexxx]

Alexxx, you lost the moment you decided to challenge me.

Nobody needs to challenge you. You do such a good job at proving your own stupidity it would be useless.

[Man of Steel]

Nobody needs to challenge you. You do such a good job at proving your own stupidity it would be useless.

Whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart.   

[Big Worm]

Many feel that steroid is just a part of the bodybuilding game. Since all are doing it, nobody is cheating, etc. I ask the following questions then as food for thought:
1. If is NOT cheating how come the IFBB in both pro and amatuer rules pages has over 40 pages of rules that say these drugs are NOT allowed?

2. If is not cheating how come one can not freely admit their use in public?
If you have to sneak and lie about somehing, you most likely know it is wrong on some level or you would admit it. Hmmm, why do they think having an affair is considered CHEATING on your spouse?

3. Some contend that steroid and drug use is no more different than various rule changes. This logic is flawed, when a sport changes a rule it is open and everyone is on the same level. With drugs it is  murky behind the scenes issue where some are in the loop on various levels.

4. Many in bodybuilding are so used to the drugs as the worst kept secret, we forget how many fans in other sports react when they find out. Barry Bonds is booed each time he comes to bat despite being a great hitter. He is on the verge of breaking a chersihed record yet few respect him or what he has done.
Wan bodybuilding to start gaining public recognition,? Get the drugs out first.

5. If the sport of bodybuilding can only survive with illegal drug use, is it wrth saving as is?
The only way for it NOT to be cheating is to change the current drug laws, be open and honest and then change the rules allowing all bodybuilders to use them on the pro and amatuer level.

 It's not cheating, if everyone else is doing the same thing !!???

[DK II]

Calm down guys

[divcom]

Just barely have interest in men's bbing.  Take away the sauce and you've got male models, which is truly lame.

What would the NFL be like without sauce?  They do a great job at coverup?  David Boston goes from a 210  WR - 244 with no increase in BF, and they say it's natural.

Put this one on the roid board and let the rage begin.