out of all the hundered's and so on of pro's that have come and gone ,not the levrone's or wheeler's or any top guy last 10 year's or so,i'm talking good decent pro's who had cracked the top 10 in any show whether it was a smaller type like ironman or olympia and you guy's make this guy out to be some second coming.he has the body type of a paco bautista huge but no flow and he does not even get as hard as bautista.he does not have the pro mass like cutler or coleman i'm sure neither one of them even consider's him a threat.