would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?

[gracie bjj]

it always seems to me that which ever competetor or competetors get the nod and impress the judges at the pre judging usually win or place high,i know there are exceptions to the rule but for the most part it seems the contest is pretty much decided at the pre judging

[LuciusFox]

 I think that is how it has always been. What happened at the Colorado Pro? I hear that Darrem looked better in the morning and Phil better at night. Did Darrem win the prejudging?

[alexxx]

Derrem has some good size on him now only problem is he got beat on his strong point, condition.

[HowieW]

it always seems to me that which ever competetor or competetors get the nod and impress the judges at the pre judging usually win or place high,i know there are exceptions to the rule but for the most part it seems the contest is pretty much decided at the pre judging

It should be judged at the PJ or why else have one?

[thisiskeith12]

Darrem wasn't as sliced as normal, he was still a bit off, I think he's saving it for the New York show.

[gracie bjj]

the year everyone said cutler should have won,i forgot the year,anyway they say jay smoked him at the prejudging,i guess in that show politics play a huge role

[thisiskeith12]

If the judges based strictly on conditioning and proportion, you would have a new winner every year.

[LuciusFox]

the year everyone said cutler should have won,i forgot the year,anyway they say jay smoked him at the prejudging,i guess in that show politics play a huge role

  Cutler did win the prejudging in 2001, only to find out that Ronnie had more patriotic posing trunks in the night show. It was obviously a good time for patriotism

[thisiskeith12]

  Cutler did win the prejudging in 2001, only to find out that Ronnie had more patriotic posing trunks in the night show. It was obviously a good time for patriotism

Didn't the Patriots win that year?

[gracie bjj]

It should be judged at the PJ or why else have one?

i agree,but ive seen afew shows where a guy looked alittle off at the prejudging only to come in at the night show improved and win,cutler and coleman come to mind that one year,jay looked sharper at the pre judging and ronnie came back at the night show alittle improved,politics at its best imo

[Dr. Shock]

Well, from my experience as a judge (amateur comps.), the evening posing routines have no bearing on the final scoring. Only the pre-judging counts for placings.

[LuciusFox]

Didn't the Patriots win that year?

  Yes, they did!

[gracie bjj]

Well, from my experience as a judge (amateur comps.), the evening posing routines have no bearing on the final scoring. Only the pre-judging counts for placings.

thats interesting,so basiclly the night show is just for entertainment for the crowd?but what if a guy looked awesome at the prejudging and somehow got alittle bloated between the pre judge and the evening show it wouldnt matter?im just starting to understand how it works which is cool

[LuciusFox]

thats interesting,so basiclly the night show is just for entertainment for the crowd?but what if a guy looked awesome at the prejudging and somehow got alittle bloated between the pre judge and the evening show it wouldnt matter?im just starting to understand how it works which is cool

  I think it's completely different in the pros. The last two rounds exist so the judges can give the show to whomever they want to, provided he was close enough earlier

[gracie bjj]

  I think it's completely different in the pros. The last two rounds exist so the judges can give the show to whomever they want to, provided he was close enough earlier

basiclly politics come into play in the last 2 rounds?

[LuciusFox]

basiclly politics come into play in the last 2 rounds?

 I think that it only happens when someone wins the prejudging when they were not supposed to. Basically, in 2001, when Cutler won the prejudging, the last two rounds were used to give Ronnie the victory.

[gracie bjj]

interesting,thanks for the responses bro,i learn alittle something new everyday here

[thisiskeith12]

  Yes, they did!

Mysterious!

[Mr. Intenseone]

I had the second post on here.......why was it deleted. Did the truth hurt??

Ron, you might want to consider listing your "extra" mods, you know the ones who don't say their not mods but have the power to delete. This is getting to be as rediclous as Mayhem!!

[Mr. Intenseone]

I agree with you for the most part, but in the case of the Olympia, it's won 7-8 years in advance !!
















P.S. Lets see how long this stays up for!

[LuciusFox]

Mysterious!

 The Yankees came close to winning, too, but they fell just short.