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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 11:15:13 AM »
Id go with Jones...better structure
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2006, 11:19:21 AM »
I'd say Richard.  Wasnt he the guy with the greatest genetics since Flex and who would be the second coming of Shawn.  Now... it's Phil.  Who is coming up in the amateurs with a small waist.... so he'll be the next super genetic bber in 2007.  Complete over kill with the genetics stuff in bbing! Let the judges make the call.
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2006, 11:21:43 AM »
I am not getting into that ! both of them are great

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2006, 11:26:04 AM »
Jones lacks hamstrings and calves though wider, Heath has a more complete looking physique with even better shape.  If they both nail they're conditioning it'll be Heath by a wide margin.  If Jones is a bit off he'd get hammered, if Heath is a bit off he'd still win though by a slightly smaller margin.  Heath is more complete and don't forget ladies and gents:

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2006, 11:26:58 AM »
I am not getting into that ! both of them are great

i agree................... ....

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2006, 11:30:36 AM »
i agree................... ....

Fair enough but then how many Pro Shows has Jones won?  What are his TOTAL wins... I can't quite remember...  Now then how many has Heath won?  He's only competed in two... he won the two... 2 for 2?  No... well maybe... say, should contest wins be used to judge how good a bodybuilder is or should we use that other method?

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2006, 11:37:38 AM »
Fair enough but then how many Pro Shows has Jones won?  What are his TOTAL wins... I can't quite remember...  Now then how many has Heath won?  He's only competed in two... he won the two... 2 for 2?  No... well maybe... say, should contest wins be used to judge how good a bodybuilder is or should we use that other method?

what pro shows did jones compete in?
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2006, 11:47:49 AM »
That's kinda tough......I'll say this much:  both of their physiques would be on my top 5 of what I would like to attain.

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2006, 11:48:12 AM »
jones missed his mark at the ironman and i havent been able to find any olympia pics where he got 18th...but at the ironman he was right up there with charles as heath has been in his first two contests.....however charles at the 2004 ironman looked pretty tight.  

yes, jones does need bigger hams for sure though.  jones and heath have two very similar physiques and it'd be cool to see them both compared when they're each at 100%
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2006, 11:51:59 AM »
jones missed his mark at the ironman and i havent been able to find any olympia pics where he got 18th...but at the ironman he was right up there with charles as heath has been in his first two contests.....however charles at the 2004 ironman looked pretty tight.  

yes, jones does need bigger hams for sure though.  jones and heath have two very similar physiques and it'd be cool to see them both compared when they're each at 100%

Jones never competed at the ironman

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2006, 11:56:12 AM »
right, NOC, my bad
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2006, 11:59:57 AM »
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2006, 12:11:13 PM »
Can anyone give an honest answer to where Richard Jones is anyways?
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2006, 12:15:10 PM »
I am not getting into that ! both of them are great

I agree. They are the most aesthetic pros there are nowadays!

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2006, 12:36:11 PM »
Jones all the way...
Better structure, waist smaller, better V taper, and more flow to his physique ...Not a critique to Heat, he is great and very symetrical, just that Jones is better on that IMHO...
Now, Heat seems to have more mass and he hit his condition right on the mark, something Jones didnt do in his Pro shows...
But there is one photo of Jone´s back (  i think its from a NPC contest?) its maybe the most awesome photo of someone just standing there, without doing any pose....His condition was just crazy (holy chrismas tree!!!)
Someone might know what photo im talking about...
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2006, 12:42:59 PM »
RJ trains MMA and sports the G27, the most efficient pocket rocket known to man.

Heath can dunk a basketball. 

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2006, 12:43:19 PM »
Amazing indeed!

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2006, 12:43:57 PM »
tiny legs but a nice guy.
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2006, 12:46:58 PM »
tiny legs but a nice guy.

Tiny legs???  ??? Pleeeaassee! Don't be tripping, Sarcasm

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2006, 12:49:46 PM »
Gosh...Both of them are my favorites...

Heath is likethe second coming of Wheeler while Jones was/is the second coming of Ray who is my favorite bodybuilder of all time.

That back pic of Jones is crazy!

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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2006, 12:55:46 PM »
Holy shit!  Jones' back is crazy!  Dryyyyyyy!!!
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2006, 01:00:30 PM »
find me a better pic than this and ill say Heath, until then................
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2006, 01:04:32 PM »
jones has a better physique imo,,,but heath competed as a pro in better condition...someone should compare their pics from the contests they won their pro cards from.
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Re: Phil Heath vs. Richard Jones...two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2006, 01:17:03 PM »
jones has a better physique imo,,,but heath competed as a pro in better condition...someone should compare their pics from the contests they won their pro cards from.

Here is the one from 2003 NPC where he competed at 198 and won Light Heavyweight 1st and Overall. I believe it was only his second show and he won in the same class 1st and Overall at the NPC a year prior to that. He is a bit shorter than Phil. Not sure what weight Phil competed at when he won his 1st show.