Author Topic: The PDI and symmetry (Read 8098 times)

Hedgehog · « **on:** May 31, 2006, 02:16:09 PM »

PDI seems to be taking a hard stance against gut monsters. Will the judging really allow symmetrical bodybuilders to win over the blocky monsters that are ruling the IFBB these days?

I'd like to see a place where guys like Dave Henry, Haider, Rockel, Horvath and Troy Alves can be successful.

If the rumours about Dave Palumbo going to the PDI are true.. That doesn't seem like an organisation that will reward symmetry.

There needs to be more than just Lee Priest.

YIP
Zack

WOOO · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:17:11 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on May 31, 2006, 02:16:09 PM

PDI seems to be taking a hard stance against gut monsters. Will the judging really allow symmetrical bodybuilders to win over the blocky monsters that are ruling the IFBB these days?

I'd like to see a place where guys like Dave Henry, Haider, Rockel, Horvath and Troy Alves can be successful.

If the rumours about Dave Palumbo going to the PDI are true.. That doesn't seem like an organisation that will reward symmetry.

There needs to be more than just Lee Priest.

YIP
Zack

They have RHINO, he's the king of Symmetry has such a tiny waist

240 is Back · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:18:41 PM »

I have not heard one word about palumbo going over. I've heard a lot of names, including some big ones. But not a word about Palumbo.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:20:55 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 31, 2006, 02:18:41 PM

I have not heard one word about palumbo going over. I've heard a lot of names, including some big ones. But not a word about Palumbo.

You probably have better info than me. So I stand corrected.

Good thing. Having Palumbo in PDI would really be a setback to that organisation.

YIP
Zack

240 is Back · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:23:34 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on May 31, 2006, 02:20:55 PM

Good thing. Having Palumbo in PDI would really be a setback to that organisation.

IMO, adding DP would be a horrible move. Not only is Wayne signing guys with a marketing and pleasing look, but I can't seem to find a criminal record among them. I don't know which things I heard are true and which are false, so I could be wrong on it. But between his age, his image, his frame, and his record, my money is on Palumbo never taking a stage again. He'll use forever, but only to look imposing in the "Expo Booth Thumbs-Up" mandatory.

RHINO290 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 01, 2006, 06:15:02 AM »

Quote from: WOOO on May 31, 2006, 02:17:11 PM

They have RHINO, he's the king of Symmetry has such a tiny waist

No, I am definetly not the prettiest bodybuilder, but hey, even the PDI needs one big guy, that is as good as it's gettin for me....

NPCOK · « **Reply #6 on:** June 01, 2006, 07:06:03 AM »

Quote from: RHINO290 on June 01, 2006, 06:15:02 AM

No, I am definetly not the prettiest bodybuilder, but hey, even the PDI needs one big guy, that is as good as it's gettin for me....

Ruhl might not be Mr. Olympia, but he has some of the most loyal fans out there. Do your thing and fuck what people think!

delta9mda · « **Reply #7 on:** June 01, 2006, 07:12:58 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 31, 2006, 02:18:41 PM

I have not heard one word about palumbo going over. I've heard a lot of names, including some big ones. But not a word about Palumbo.

dex?

RHINO290 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 01, 2006, 07:14:25 AM »

Quote from: NPCOK on June 01, 2006, 07:06:03 AM

Ruhl might not be Mr. Olympia, but he has some of the most loyal fans out there. Do your thing and f**k what people think!

Thanks, that is exactly my attitude.

RHINO290 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 01, 2006, 10:33:58 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on May 31, 2006, 02:20:55 PM

You probably have better info than me. So I stand corrected.

Good thing. Having Palumbo in PDI would really be a setback to that organisation.

YIP
Zack

Well I have it right from his own mouth, he is not coming over. He is making money with the NPC, and quite happy.

Dave is a good guy and a freind of mine, iffbb, or npc, or PDI, always be a freind.

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #10 on:** June 01, 2006, 10:34:14 AM »

Quote from: RHINO290 on June 01, 2006, 07:14:25 AM

Thanks, that is exactly my attitude.

With all due respect to Rhino,he aint no Ruhl.He isnt mosnter big compared to other pro's.

Bindare_Dundat · « **Reply #11 on:** June 01, 2006, 10:37:42 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 31, 2006, 02:18:41 PM

I have not heard one word about palumbo going over. I've heard a lot of names, including some big ones. But not a word about Palumbo.

In another thread you said it wasnt your place to tell us which pro would be switching over and then you put a picture of Dexter Jacksons face. Could you be any more obvious?

RHINO290 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 01, 2006, 10:42:10 AM »

Quote from: IFBBwannaB on June 01, 2006, 10:34:14 AM

With all due respect to Rhino,he aint no Ruhl.He isnt mosnter big compared to other pro's.

Okay, well I guess I will have to get bigger, I certainly won't change the ugly factor(LOL). So I guess I will fight the battles I can win.

CAPTAIN MARVEL · « **Reply #13 on:** June 01, 2006, 11:07:22 AM »

I know. 240 you don't need to be that obvious. Lets see, who is a top 4 guy who doesn't really care much about winning the Olympia. All you are doing is hurting the chances of Dex actually making the leap.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #14 on:** June 01, 2006, 11:18:24 AM »

Quote from: NPCOK on June 01, 2006, 07:06:03 AM

Ruhl might not be Mr. Olympia, but he has some of the most loyal fans out there. Do your thing and f**k what people think!

For some reason, I find it somewhat amusing seeing this from someone who is bothered by peoples questions if he's on the juice. Complaining about not getting credit for all the hard work put in.

When he in fact, is on the juice.

YIP
Zack

NPCOK · « **Reply #15 on:** June 01, 2006, 12:39:56 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on June 01, 2006, 11:18:24 AM

For some reason, I find it somewhat amusing seeing this from someone who is bothered by peoples questions if he's on the juice. Complaining about not getting credit for all the hard work put in.

When he in fact, is on the juice.

YIP
Zack

wow...people are really obsessed with that comment and missed the whole point. 1. If you do not know somebody personally then you do not asked them about commiting a felony...or ask them to help you commit a felony. 2. People assume that all you have to do is juice to look like a bodybuilder. Barry Bonds was taking a bigger cycle than most pro bodybuilders do..yet he did not look like one. Shit Lance fucking Armstrong was juicing and he's not the biggest guy around either. Steroids are a big part of professional level bodybuilding..there is no doubt about it...but you can not sit on your ass and just take juice if you want to be a champion. There is alot more to bodybuilding than just taking some shit. The single most important aspect is nutrition. Bodybuilders juice when bulking up and cutting down....so if you are just taking juice and not putting in the work or following a good nutrition plan then you will look bloated, and puffy..not much else. I know alot of guys who juice that don't even look like they work out...and I also train a few natual competitors who look fucking jacked!

HICKSON · « **Reply #16 on:** June 01, 2006, 12:50:49 PM »

Quote from: NPCOK on June 01, 2006, 12:39:56 PM

wow...people are really obsessed with that comment and missed the whole point. 1. If you do not know somebody personally then you do not asked them about commiting a felony...or ask them to help you commit a felony. 2. People assume that all you have to do is juice to look like a bodybuilder. Barry Bonds was taking a bigger cycle than most pro bodybuilders do..yet he did not look like one. Shit Lance fucking Armstrong was juicing and he's not the biggest guy around either. Steroids are a big part of professional level bodybuilding..there is no doubt about it...but you can not sit on your ass and just take juice if you want to be a champion. There is alot more to bodybuilding than just taking some shit. The single most important aspect is nutrition. Bodybuilders juice when bulking up and cutting down....so if you are just taking juice and not putting in the work or following a good nutrition plan then you will look bloated, and puffy..not much else. I know alot of guys who juice that don't even look like they work out...and I also train a few natual competitors who look fucking jacked!

Bro..... Lance never touched a thing his whole life...... FACT...

NPCOK · « **Reply #17 on:** June 01, 2006, 12:51:50 PM »

ok...Rafeal Palmera (I'm sure I spelled that wrong) then.....We'll give Lance the benefit of the doubt..

brianX · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2006, 01:06:47 PM »

Quote from: Bindare_Dundat on June 01, 2006, 10:37:42 AM

In another thread you said it wasnt your place to tell us which pro would be switching over and then you put a picture of Dexter Jacksons face. Could you be any more obvious?

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240 is Back · « **Reply #19 on:** June 01, 2006, 01:08:27 PM »

There is no confirmation on this, BrianX.

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2006, 01:13:43 PM »

Quote from: RHINO290 on June 01, 2006, 10:42:10 AM

Okay, well I guess I will have to get bigger, I certainly won't change the ugly factor(LOL). So I guess I will fight the battles I can win.

Asthetics is based alot on proportions,maybe just letting some bodyparts lag while bringing up the others.
But its hard to ask a mass freak to do it,I know that I always just trained balls to the walls and let my genetics sort it out however it wants lol.

How much you think you will weigh at the contest? 255-260?

Good luck on your show Rhino.

RHINO290 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2006, 01:19:26 PM »

Quote from: IFBBwannaB on June 01, 2006, 01:13:43 PM

Asthetics is based alot on proportions,maybe just letting some bodyparts lag while bringing up the others.
But its hard to ask a mass freak to do it,I know that I always just trained balls to the walls and let my genetics sort it out however it wants lol.

How much you think you will weigh at the contest? 255-260?

Good luck on your show Rhino.

Yeah, about 250-255. Thats what I am doing, trianing my back and shoulders only once every 2 weeks, training my arms and legs more, you know when I am fresh, I think it is working, more pics in a couple of weeks.

thanks for the words bro, very cool...

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2006, 10:39:57 PM »

Quote from: RHINO290 on June 01, 2006, 01:19:26 PM

Yeah, about 250-255. Thats what I am doing, trianing my back and shoulders only once every 2 weeks, training my arms and legs more, you know when I am fresh, I think it is working, more pics in a couple of weeks.

thanks for the words bro, very cool...

You know whats your other option is....going balls to the walls,coming in 280 ripped and not breath for the whole show.
Kind of like Ruhl at 04 ASC,he looked amazing! He was so wide and ripped it was mind boggling.
But I dont think you shuold train less on back and especialy shoulders.Both are the base for a good taper,compare old pics of Cutler and from being blocky pro to 2nd at the olympia was mostly his shoulders and back giving him better proportions.

On the other hand...I have only seen a couple photos of you so what do I know LOL.

Good luck!

Hedgehog · « **Reply #23 on:** June 02, 2006, 01:50:38 AM »

Quote from: IFBBwannaB on June 01, 2006, 10:39:57 PM

You know whats your other option is....going balls to the walls,coming in 280 ripped and not breath for the whole show.
Kind of like Ruhl at 04 ASC,he looked amazing! He was so wide and ripped it was mind boggling.
But I dont think you shuold train less on back and especialy shoulders.Both are the base for a good taper,compare old pics of Cutler and from being blocky pro to 2nd at the olympia was mostly his shoulders and back giving him better proportions.

On the other hand...I have only seen a couple photos of you so what do I know LOL.

Good luck!

Come in at 280 lbs ripped?

How big would RHINO's gut be then?

I think he's doing the right thing. 250 lbs is very big. To bring up his arms, maybe he should drop some weight, come down to around 240 lbs.

YIP
Zack

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #24 on:** June 02, 2006, 02:14:53 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on June 02, 2006, 01:50:38 AM

Come in at 280 lbs ripped?

How big would RHINO's gut be then?

I think he's doing the right thing. 250 lbs is very big. To bring up his arms, maybe he should drop some weight, come down to around 240 lbs.

YIP
Zack

You asume that coming at a lower body weight means less gut...wrong...and many pro's showed that over the recent years.