Author Topic: First cycle questions... (Read 2568 times)

DNewbie · « **on:** July 02, 2006, 05:42:56 PM »

I am planning on 400mg/Test-C/week, Clomid and Arimidex for PCT and also Clen during PCT. If I see signs of gyno during cycle, should I start the Arimidex or the Clomid? Obviously, the Clomid is much cheaper. Or, should I use the Clomid during the entire cycle and just use the Arimidex by itself for PCT?

Any help would be appreciated!!

Before you ask! 33 years old, lifting for 3 years, 6'2 200lbs...

SLYY · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2006, 05:46:58 PM »

Bump the test to 500mg a week.

If you have signs of gyno...on cycle....take nolva

To stop gyno from happening while on cycle, run adex throughout cycle

DNewbie · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2006, 06:09:23 PM »

Running A-dex throughout the cycle would get pretty pricey....If I ran Clomid/Nolva throughout cycle, how much should I take per day?

liftnbig · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2006, 06:36:31 PM »

Quote from: SLYY on July 02, 2006, 05:46:58 PM

Bump the test to 500mg a week.

no clomid during the cycle. save that for pct if you want. Personaly I would use nova for pct.

10mgs of nova aday while on, if gyno starts switch to armidex.

Don't let your mind trick you into thinking you have gyno either

SLYY · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2006, 06:45:37 PM »

Quote from: liftnbig on July 02, 2006, 06:36:31 PM

if gyno starts switch to armidex.

I disagree with this....

Take adex to insure gyno wont occur. If you are still sensitive to gyno and you have signs...take nolva. Nolva can reverse the beginning signs of gyno.....adex cannot.....

DNewbie · « **Reply #5 on:** July 04, 2006, 06:30:35 AM »

Any other thoughts?

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #6 on:** July 04, 2006, 06:33:08 AM »

10 mg nolvadex during cycle time,
after u finish cycle , start with clomid 100 mg a day ,

udeluz · « **Reply #7 on:** July 04, 2006, 06:36:16 AM »

Quote from: DNewbie on July 02, 2006, 06:09:23 PM

Running A-dex throughout the cycle would get pretty pricey....If I ran Clomid/Nolva throughout cycle, how much should I take per day?

Why do I always hear that running Adex thoughout would be pricey??? 1 or 2 50ml bottles depending on the length of the cycle... I get it for 40.00 a bottle

ZEEK · « **Reply #8 on:** July 04, 2006, 06:46:37 AM »

Do It Do It

Petrucci · « **Reply #9 on:** July 04, 2006, 07:01:56 AM »

well i dont know for you guys, but for me that live in brasil, the arimidex its VERY expensive (almost the same tha i would spend in Sust and Winstrol for a 8 weeks cycle)
i already looked for some alternative here but for what i know we dont have it...so we have to import the drug from the USA

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2006, 07:14:02 AM »

Yeah some of it will be trial and error. Take what you learn and see how things work for you. The only way to tell is to do it.

Try just low dose nolva 10mg ED cause this is a fairly mild cycle. Not to sure about arimedex but letrozole can control aromatase on larger cycles (1000mg+ test) that nolva will not be able to manage, throw HCG into the mix and there is even more conversion to estrogen. At that point you will need a stronger anti E than nolva.

I really just think of nolva for PCT anymore. Skip on the clomid and clen, just get some nolva. Keep it simple.

If you can get away with it use no anti-E during the cycle, this will give you the best gains. You will be softer but bigger and stronger, guess it depends on your goals.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #11 on:** July 04, 2006, 12:04:14 PM »

Quote from: DNewbie on July 02, 2006, 06:09:23 PM

Running A-dex throughout the cycle would get pretty pricey....If I ran Clomid/Nolva throughout cycle, how much should I take per day?

www.chemoneresearch.com 60ml a-dex ( 4 months) for 35 bucks

sydewide · « **Reply #12 on:** July 04, 2006, 02:45:34 PM »

have you personally taken clomid from this web site? The warning on it looks little sketchy. It says its not for human use....not sterile and not to be injected? Just wondering.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #13 on:** July 04, 2006, 04:04:40 PM »

Quote from: DNewbie on July 02, 2006, 05:42:56 PM

I am planning on 400mg/Test-C/week, Clomid and Arimidex for PCT and also Clen during PCT. If I see signs of gyno during cycle, should I start the Arimidex or the Clomid? Obviously, the Clomid is much cheaper. Or, should I use the Clomid during the entire cycle and just use the Arimidex by itself for PCT?

Any help would be appreciated!!

Before you ask! 33 years old, lifting for 3 years, 6'2 200lbs...

Don't run a-dex during PCT this is not necessary or proper. As for during the cycle you can run either nolva or a-dex throughout to take care of any possible problems. For PCT it self, 3-4 wks of nolva only would do just fine.

Quote from: SLYY on July 02, 2006, 06:45:37 PM

I disagree with this....

Take adex to insure gyno wont occur. If you are still sensitive to gyno and you have signs...take nolva. Nolva can reverse the beginning signs of gyno.....adex cannot.....

This is incorrect, a-dex is far more affective then nolva for preventing unwanted sides such as gyno. A-dex actually blocks the aromatase enzyme, which is what causes estrogen to be produced, nolva does not do this.

SLYY · « **Reply #14 on:** July 04, 2006, 04:11:02 PM »

Quote from: Arnold jr on July 04, 2006, 04:04:40 PM

This is incorrect, a-dex is far more affective then nolva for preventing unwanted sides such as gyno. A-dex actually blocks the aromatase enzyme, which is what causes estrogen to be produced, nolva does not do this.

I agree with you. That is what I stated. Take adex during cycle and nolva for PCT. However, I stated, if gyno develops...start taking nolva. I stated that nolva can reverse the beginning signs of gyno, where adex cannot.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #15 on:** July 04, 2006, 04:13:49 PM »

Quote from: SLYY on July 04, 2006, 04:11:02 PM

I agree with you. That is what I stated. Take adex during cycle and nolva for PCT. However, I stated, if gyno develops...start taking nolva. I stated that nolva can reverse the beginning signs of gyno, where adex cannot.

But if he's taking a-dex from the start then gyno should not appear.

SLYY · « **Reply #16 on:** July 04, 2006, 04:15:18 PM »

Quote from: Arnold jr on July 04, 2006, 04:13:49 PM

But if he's taking a-dex from the start then gyno should not appear.

I said that in the post you used to quote me....and you told me I was incorrect....

Quote from: SLYY on July 02, 2006, 06:45:37 PM

I disagree with this....

Take adex to insure gyno wont occur. If you are still sensitive to gyno and you have signs...take nolva. Nolva can reverse the beginning signs of gyno.....adex cannot.....

DNewbie · « **Reply #17 on:** July 04, 2006, 04:35:48 PM »

Wow, you guys have me all confused now!!!!

Why can't I just have Nolva on hand for both during cycle and PCT? Does this make more sense and just go without the A-dex and Clomid?

Arnold jr · « **Reply #18 on:** July 04, 2006, 05:33:23 PM »

Quote from: SLYY on July 04, 2006, 04:11:02 PM

I agree with you. That is what I stated. Take a-dex during cycle and nolva for PCT. However, I stated, if gyno develops...start taking nolva. I stated that nolva can reverse the beginning signs of gyno, where adex cannot.

I understand what you are saying now, but if he is taking a-dex from the start, then gyno will and should not be a problem.

Quote from: DNewbie on July 04, 2006, 04:35:48 PM

Wow, you guys have me all confused now!!!!

Why can't I just have Nolva on hand for both during cycle and PCT? Does this make more sense and just go without the A-dex and Clomid?

Go with a-dex on cycle and use nolva pct...a-dex does not go well with PCT and clomid is unnecessary after this cycle.

ag-guys · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2006, 05:54:42 AM »

Quote from: DNewbie on July 02, 2006, 05:42:56 PM

I am planning on 400mg/Test-C/week, Clomid and Arimidex for PCT and also Clen during PCT. If I see signs of gyno during cycle, should I start the Arimidex or the Clomid? Obviously, the Clomid is much cheaper. Or, should I use the Clomid during the entire cycle and just use the Arimidex by itself for PCT?

Any help would be appreciated!!

Before you ask! 33 years old, lifting for 3 years, 6'2 200lbs...

If you see signs of gyno use femara (letro)

AG-Guys