WHAT THE H*LL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

[Bast175]

skyscrapers don't fall from fire but maybe from having a jet fly into it.   

[240 is Back]

Candidate, finally, why did trade tower 7 collapse that day? Two small fires on two floors, and the building falls stright down in 6 seconds?  47 stories comes right down?  Never has happened before, even with entire building ablaze.  


Now listen, I'm not a conspiracy theorist.  I understand the reasoning behind why 911 was essential for US interests over the next 200 years, so I am not upset about it.  Fact is, we needed middle eastern resources to sustain our standard of life.  So I'm okay with it.  hell, even if I wasn't what can you do? Nada.  But please tell me, candidate, how 3 concrete buildings can turn to dust in one day when it's never happened before, or since.

[240 is Back]

skyscrapers don't fall from fire but maybe from having a jet fly into it.   

numerous architects have writen papers on it.  The jet fuel fire was nearly out in the first tower that fell.  a woman was seen waving her arms from the big gash right before it went down.  Kerosene does not bring down concrete, and many scientists and physicists have called for investigations. 

[candidate2025]

okay dude.  

1) I contend that 911 was an psy op, conducted upon the US people to garner US support for a mideastern invasion and get world support behind it.   Skyscrapers do not fall from fire.  No planes or bodies found at Pent or in Penn.  Was planned ahead by small group of neocons intent upon gaining control of world resources. the same ppl who wrote the doc in 97 now control most of our govt.

Dispute this.

haha. too easy: 9/11 COMISSION!!!    do i have to give you everything they found out...or do you want a link to the papers?


maybe that wont do...so i can just type what comes off the top of my head.

"with great claims, you must also have great eveidence".  a great scholar whos name i forgot once said that spiderman-esque quote. and in the case of 9/11, nothing is truer. for conspiracy theorists to claim that it was a neo-con attack to help gather support for a middle east invasion is crazy. you could look back to clinton, bush sr., reagan, and even carter to see the beginnings of this attack. from the uss cole, to the iran embassy hostage crisis......arab militants have always had it in for america. leading up to 9/11, as far back as the clinton administration, it was known that osama wanted to perform such an attack.  the summer of 2001 even more evidence was found that asserted bin laden would perform an aireal attack against the us. after 9/11, he admitted to tha attacks. we have proof of his followers on the plane, we have phone calls from people on the plane saying they took them over. we have videos of the planes hitting the buildings.    

now you bring nough evidence to crack that case.

[240 is Back]

"I build good looking websites for good looking ppl"

Does that have anything to do with your and Vinces relationship going south?

there was no relationship.  I built two $15 banners, like 8 months ago. that was it.  I do lots of piecemeal work like that, quick 20 minute jobs.  Vince got mad that I questioned his relationship with the IFBB "I'm being paid to send a message to these PDI guys" lol...

[War-Horse]

The structure of the building was steel or iron.  Only in the location of the jet fuel exploding, could there been enough heat to melt metal.    The building should not have come down from an engineering standpoint.

[candidate2025]

2) In the infamous Bin laden video, he was wearing gold (big muslim no-no) and using his right hand to write, when it is known he is lefthanded.  This is the only evidence linking him to 911, as he is motioning in the vido of planes hitting.  Is this tape real?



3) Why can the US, on a normal day, scramble a plane in 15 minutes to intercept a dead golfer's plane, but cannot get one plane up in 90 minutes AFTER they know the plans have been hijacked?

Answer, please.

it seems we have a 9/111 conspiracy theorists expert on our hands here. look 240....this is not a debate, its questioning.   and imnot going to teach you the hstory of us-arab relations, and report to you what the 9/11 report said..

heres a link you might find helpful.
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/index.html

[240 is Back]

haha. too easy: 9/11 COMISSION!!!    do i have to give you everything they found out...or do you want a link to the papers?

why do the 911 commission

1) completely ignore the 3rd tower that fell- never addressing it once
2) completely ignore the internal steel columns of the twin towers in their little "pancake theory".  

Listen candi, i love my country, and I was the first to cry for war.  And I would vote for Bush again. And I'll vote republican in 2008, again.  But science is science.  The towers contained explosives. There are dozens of people who were injured by basement explosions when the first plane hit.  Video shows smoke in basement, huge blast patterns, etc, as the building collapsed.  Facts are facts.  

[candidate2025]

work how?

i am an intern working mainly on the campaign, but i also help out on case work, and the presenting of congressional awards and such.....sort of like a spokesman.

[delta9mda]

I've been on and off this board since 1998 and even though it's as popular (infamous) as its ever been its makes me sick that many of you have promoted this 240 character to Godlike status on this board.  I'll admit he funny when he made his little cartoons but it wasn't long after that, that he started crossing the line.  To make it clear I'm not on anyones side, I think Chic is in the IFBBs front pocket, I'm a fan of Shawn Ray the bodybuilder but not the person, Kamali is Kamali and I don't like Lee Priest period.  Can I come on this board one day without see 20 posts in every thread by this "nincumpoot".  And RON you should be ashamed that you give this guy a cowboy pass and runs around saying anything he wants to anyone.  Yes 1 out 10 times he can be enternaining but this guy is cancer to this board and people have left this board because of him.  It's gotten to the point to where I think if this guys lost access to this board he would have ANOTHER M E L T D O W N and blow his brains out or go into a deep depression and OD on "advil".  Everytime I log on seeing one his posts is like seeing the unwanted spam in your e-mail.  There should be a 240 filter on this site to block out of the bullsh*t.  Now I know someones gonna end up posting it so I'll do it for you.........MELTDOWN, MOSNTER MELTDOWN, EPIC MELTDOWN and whatever other adjectives you want to use with meltdown after it.  All you freaks dangling from his nuts get a freakin' life.  I'm sure I just gave myself some unwanted attention but I'm about sick and tired of "Cowboy Rob"

And just to get keep it real, my real name is Glen and here's my picture I'm from Las Vegas,NV I'm in the Air Force and currently in Germany, if you want some come get it....

If there is one positive thing I can say is that he posted a pic and gave is real name.  More than what I can say for 95% of the people that get on the board and talk sh*t.

monster meltdown and 240 is the least of worries here. goet over it.

[240 is Back]

it seems we have a 9/111 conspiracy theorists expert on our hands here. look 240....this is not a debate, its questioning.   and imnot going to teach you the hstory of us-arab relations, and report to you what the 9/11 report said..

I'm more of a political theater admirer than a conspiracy theorist, as most of them cry for revolution, and I do not.  I love the stability that a US invasion of the middle east brings our nation.  I accept teh costs as well.

Many PNAC members held position on the 911 commission.  66% of NYers want 911 re-opened and reinvestigated.  hell, they spend millions investigating Monica lewinsky, and only 600k on 911? lol.... come on.... you have to laugh at the political theater of it all man.

[candidate2025]

why do the 911 commission

1) completely ignore the 3rd tower that fell- never addressing it once
2) completely ignore the internal steel columns of the twin towers in their little "pancake theory".  

Listen candi, i love my country, and I was the first to cry for war.  And I would vote for Bush again. And I'll vote republican in 2008, again.  But science is science.  The towers contained explosives. There are dozens of people who were injured by basement explosions when the first plane hit.  Video shows smoke in basement, huge blast patterns, etc, as the building collapsed.  Facts are facts.  

tower 7 is a mystery.....but that doesnt mean that it was a controlled demolition.  i wasnt in nyc when it happened to tell you.    



so, now that your done questioning me on your obvious area of expertise, would you like a debate.....or not.  like i said, ill take the opposing side of almost any issue you support.

[Hedgehog]

What's the story here?

YIP
Zack

[240 is Back]

i am an intern working mainly on the campaign, but i also help out on case work, and the presenting of congressional awards and such.....sort of like a spokesman.

then you of all ppl should understand the importance of unifying the masses' views to support govt actions, right?

There have been quite a few congressmen who have come right out and said our govt had something to do with it.  

candi, you have a cool job.  i'd love to work in politics.  But you owe it to yourself to really look at facts from unbiased sources, not docs delivered from the US govt.  You can still love and support your country, but have an open mind to the psyops that occur in warfare and resource mgmt.

[240 is Back]

tower 7 is a mystery.....but that doesnt mean that it was a controlled demolition.  i wasnt in nyc when it happened to tell you.    

There are a variety of resources out there with video analysis.

if it was a mystery, why didn't they investigate it?   No way a building falls in 6.2 seconds from fire collapse.  Once you admit to yourself "yeah, building 7 was probably rigged before 911 to fall", you start to wonder why.  Then you see it fell jsut like the other 2 bldngs. It starts to get scary then!  

a 47 floor building falls to the ground from one small fire, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, and it's giant news.  Instead, it just got IGNORED lol... how can you not laugh at that?  

[alexxx]

So was Monica Lewinski.   Slurrrrrrrrrrrrp! 

lol are you saying cadidate will make a valuable member at releiving tension?

[candidate2025]

then you of all ppl should understand the importance of unifying the masses' views to support govt actions, right?

There have been quite a few congressmen who have come right out and said our govt had something to do with it.  

candi, you have a cool job.  i'd love to work in politics.  But you owe it to yourself to really look at facts from unbiased sources, not docs delivered from the US govt.  You can still love and support your country, but have an open mind to the psyops that occur in warfare and resource mgmt.

actually, no. i do not support any kind of government manipulation of the american people, no matter how good intentioned, or how good the out come. and yes.....i know how cool my job is, to bad they cant pay me for it untill i turn 18!

[candidate2025]

Shouldn't a "spokesman" know how to speak well?

i speak quite well in face-face interaction.   even so, most people dont like me...because im not very accomadating to other peoples viewpoints. even my boss's. haha.

[danielson]

actually, no. i do not support any kind of government manipulation of the american people, no matter how good intentioned, or how good the out come. and yes.....i know how cool my job is, to bad they cant pay me for it untill i turn 18!

They COULD pay you, they just don't.

[240 is Back]

actually, no. i do not support any kind of government manipulation of the american people, no matter how good intentioned, or how good the out come. and yes.....i know how cool my job is, to bad they cant pay me for it untill i turn 18!

See, I understand the importance of unifying the masses for a goal they cannot understand- population mgmt thru psychological means.  it's necessary to remain a superpower. We cannot stop it, so we might as well watch and enjoy.

History shows it has happened before, and it's life.  Roosevelt knew pearl harbor was coming 24 hrs ahead of time.  the lucitania was very likely meant to go down to pull us into war.   Shit happens. There is a school of thought called "LIHOP - let it happen on purpose", and without it, we'd be a poorer country.  So, we elect ppl to do that dirty work for us.

It's life.  But don't write off every 'crazy conspiracy theorist' until you've done the research, from unbiased sources.  I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle of what the govt tell us, and what the crazy anti-govt types tell us.  Find whatever truth makes you happy, and live with it

[canyoufeeltheforce]

okay dude.  

1) I contend that 911 was an psy op, conducted upon the US people to garner US support for a mideastern invasion and get world support behind it.   Skyscrapers do not fall from fire.  No planes or bodies found at Pent or in Penn.  Was planned ahead by small group of neocons intent upon gaining control of world resources. the same ppl who wrote the doc in 97 now control most of our govt.

Dispute this.

An easy body swerve for 240 but for once I must agree with most of his points about a 911 cover-up.
At the very least 911 was allowed to happen by the powers at be inside the US .

Now enough of this serious sh*t and back to the 240 bashing .

It isn't Duck season or Rabbit season...... it is 240 season .

Open FIRE !!!!!

[candidate2025]

They COULD pay you, they just don't.

wrong. its a rule of the house that they cant pay me untill im 18.

[Hedgehog]

I'd agree with you if your argument made sense, but it doesn't.

Iraq has a tiny percentage of the world oil reserves... it's not like it's Saudi or something... it's not even second or third.

No matter who's in charge of Iraq, the oil will still flow... that's how they make their money.

We're turning Iraq right back over to the Iraqis... they're no more reliable than Saddam in ensuring oil flow; probably less so.

And what's with the "200 years" thing? In case you weren't aware (most people aren't), oil's done in 20-40 years or so. We're past "peak oil".  The only question now is whether it'll be a soft landing or a hard one. Will we have switched out economy to alternative sources of energy before severe shortages start, or after?

There isn't a whole lot of oil produced in Iraq at the moment... but...

Iraq has the second biggest oil reserve in the world.



YIP
Zack

[candidate2025]

Well, with your 17 years of life experience behind you, I can certainly understand why you wouldn't consider other viewpoints... it's not like there's a reasonable possibility they might know something you don't, after all.  

my political philosophy isnt based on the outcomes of legislature.....its more based on strict principle. so whether they know more or not doesnt matter.

[240 is Back]

my political philosophy isnt based on the outcomes of legislature.....its more based on strict principle. so whether they know more or not doesnt matter.

principles are often based in falsehoods or upon compromised foundations.
 
they will change over time, as you realize some things are not what you thought they were.