choice- i've been training for 10 yrs- i've seen countless of guys blow up very quickly and push around impressive weight- then, all of a sudden, i dont see them for a few months- when i do see them i swear they look as though they have aids or have been in an accident and laid up wasting away in the bed - or maybe strung out on a long coke binge- these idiots have collectively totally turned me off so far- maybe one day i'll give em a chance- i'm 31, strong as a bull, and look pretty damn good for never using- its never too hard to score if i wanted to- so far , though, i have'nt had to- but, who knows what the future will hold!