1972 NEVER BEFORE SEEN MR. OLYMPIA COMPARISON PICS!!!

[Al-Gebra]

What make these pics "never before seen"? I have every one of them in a Weider mag. Anyone around that time that was into bb has seen these pics.

i hope you can forgive us for being born too late.

[Hendrix]

Arnold is dominating.

Makes Sergio look like a small child!

This is the most retarded post i have read on this board in a long time.
Oliver do us a favour and swim in some shark infested water.
I am a huge fan of all 3 bodybuilders Arnold, Sergio,Nubret but 72 belonged to Sergio.

Two groupies with just a slight bias!

Mr. humility Arnold would never have said that Oliva deserved to win if he didn't think it, nor would he have refused Oliva's challenge at another contest to come out of the crowd to pose alongside him, nor would he have been in such phenomenal shape the following years if not for the fact that he knew he'd lost in '72.

I agree with you Pumpster Arnold was given a gift in 72 but improved dramaticaly in the fowolling years.

[airrick]

Great PICS!!!

Just lookin at the pics, im wishing i can watch a video clip of it!  are there any out there?

Arnold looked huge compared to the rest!

[Oliver Klaushof]

This is the most retarded post i have read on this board in a long time.
Oliver do us a favour and swim in some shark infested water.
I am a huge fan of all 3 bodybuilders Arnold, Sergio,Nubret but 72 belonged to Sergio.I agree with you Pumpster Arnold was given a gift in 72 but improved dramaticaly in the fowolling years.

The judges would disagree.

You must force yourself to look away from Arnold because the gravitational pull of his highly conditioned quality mass sucks you in like a black hole. The other competitors - Sergio, Nubret, Zane, etc.....
are merely satelites in his orbit!

[Oliver Klaushof]

hahahahahaahahah Arnold looks like a fooking titan right here!!!!!

A god amongst mortals!!!!!

[IFBBwannaB]

They are kind of smooth
Especialy from the back.

[DK II]

damn that's the year i was born.

and the town i was born in.

[brianX]

Sergio is owning everyone. It isn't even close.

[growth]

He wasn't sharp? ( senses  ) he's a lot sharper than Sergio , much more defined , in the quads , calves , abs , biceps and back , Sergio is smooth as a babies ass . Sergio has him on muscle shape , but Arnold is more complete .

Arnold was not sharper. He posed better and did use less oil than Sergio.
On the video of the Olympia you can see separation in Sergio's quads and Front double Bi that you do not see in any of these photos. Of course there still is too much oil on him, probably Arnold helped him with that

Arnold himself remarked in an interview done a few years later that Sergio and Serge Nubret were not presenting themselves optimally, he must have been thankful for that on more than one occasion.

[Slick Vic]

Arnold was not sharper. He posed better and did use less oil than Sergio.
On the video of the Olympia you can see separation in Sergio's quads and Front double Bi that you do not see in any of these photos. Of course there still is too much oil on him, probably Arnold helped him with that

See.... politics didn't play a role - it was the oil. 

[SteelePegasus]

damn that's the year i was born.

me too what month? I am march, don't talk back to your elder 

[pumpster]

Arnold looks like a fooking titan right here!!!!!

Then you don't understand BB. His height advantage is not the main criteria, otherwise Ferrigno and Gunter would have won all the time.

[growth]

See.... politics didn't play a role - it was the oil. 

Too much oil blurrs definition, Arnold knew that, Sergio probably not.

I think Sergio still was the better man on that day even with his lacking presentation, but IF he had nailed down the presentation he might have gotten another one or two judges on his side - it was 4 to 3 for Arnold so it was very close.

[pumpster]

Too much oil blurrs definition, Arnold knew that, Sergio probably not.

I always look forward to the inevitable Arnold nut-huggers who totally buy into all the Schwarzenegger BS about his supposed tactical advantages & psyching opponents when in fact most of it was made up, knowing that various suckers would accept it without question (true).

You act like Sergio's some kind of dummy and would do everything wrong while Arnold of course wouldn't. Bottom line he knew he lost the show and admitted it later but this was a commercial enterprise run by Weider who could influence who would win and who prevented Oliva from competing in '71 for equally suspect reasons.

Schwarzenegger knows that most of what he's claimed is empty rhetoric but no one questions it so it's stood the test of time. He didn't accept Sergio's challenge at a neutral contest because Weider had no control of the outcome.

[Lord Humungous]

HAHAHAHAH Arnie looks like a sheet of glass hes so smooth what a joke. Sergio makes him look like a fool in about 90% of those shots. Nubret looks better than Brunschwagger too.

[growth]

I always look forward to the inevitable Arnold nut-huggers who totally buy into all the Schwarzenegger BS about his supposed tactical advantages & psyching opponents when in fact most of it was made up, knowing that various suckers would accept it without question (true).

You act like Sergio's some kind of dummy and would do everything wrong while Arnold of course wouldn't. Bottom line he knew he lost the show and admitted it later but this was a commercial enterprise run by Weider who could influence who would win and who prevented Oliva from competing in '71 for equally suspect reasons.

Schwarzenegger knows that most of what he's claimed is empty rhetoric but no one questions it so it's stood the test of time. He didn't accept Sergio's challenge at a neutral contest because Weider had no control of the outcome.

Have you watched the footage of Sergio, Arnold and Serge Nubret posing at this contest ?
I have and on top of that I much prefer Sergio's physique to Arnold's so I find it sad to see how little Sergio does to present his superior physique. If you cannot see from watching the footage that Sergio did not present himself optimally you can't be helped.

I would not say that Sergio was some kind of dummy, just that he had that "I am the best anyway" attitude, that's probably why he was not meticulous with regard to posing and presentation.
Watch the video if you can, you will see what I mean.

[pumpster]

Haven't had any luck finding it, where did you get it?

[NarcissisticDeity]

I always look forward to the inevitable Arnold nut-huggers who totally buy into all the Schwarzenegger BS about his supposed tactical advantages & psyching opponents when in fact most of it was made up, knowing that various suckers would accept it without question (true).

You act like Sergio's some kind of dummy and would do everything wrong while Arnold of course wouldn't. Bottom line he knew he lost the show and admitted it later but this was a commercial enterprise run by Weider who could influence who would win and who prevented Oliva from competing in '71 for equally suspect reasons.

Schwarzenegger knows that most of what he's claimed is empty rhetoric but no one questions it so it's stood the test of time. He didn't accept Sergio's challenge at a neutral contest because Weider had no control of the outcome.

Sergio already fell for Arnold's superior interlect durring the Mr Olympia's he and Sergio were trading shots for a while and then Arnold motioned Sergio " lets get off stage now " Sergio walked off stage while Arnold stood there asking the audience what happened it ' appeared ' Sergio was giving up while Arnold stood onstage and continued to hitting shots making a fool out of Sergio .

And please tell me when & where Arnold admitted he lost the 1972 Mr Olympia , because this is news to me .

And the ' neutral ' contest that Sergio challenged Arnold to a posedown , Arnold wanted to get up on stage and Weider prevented him and Franco got up onstage , so it wasn't because Arnold wasn't up to the challenge . maybe Sergio would have beaten him , maybe Weider was scared . who knows?

Should Sergio beat Arnold in 72? maybe in some shots he looks like the clear cut winner and in others Arnold . so just going on the few pictures its very hard to call .

[pumpster]

That one story about being on stage is about the only one that stands up-one story! That's hardly a trend regarding Schwarzenegger's cunning. Very easy to make these stories up afterwards, knowing that someone like ND will totally buy into them.

Schwarzenegger has admitted to losing that show from back in the day, over and over again saying that he knew backstage before posing that he was beaten.

Weider prevented him and Franco got up onstage , so it wasn't because Arnold wasn't up to the challenge

Well of course this is the Flex/Weider/Iron Age version; he could've gotten up if he'd had the balls so in fact, he wasn't up to the challenge, contrary to your interpretation. Interesting that he never talks about THIS story but has gone on and on about all the others that show him favorably. What a surprise that this embarassing chapter is almost completely off the radar in fact, just like those compromising Pumping Iron out-takes.

[growth]

Haven't had any luck finding it, where did you get it?

On a DVD called Arnold - the Early years - yup, it is Arnie again
I think you can buy it for like 10$ on Amazon.

[pumpster]

That's what i thought, was going to buy that because it's the only place i've ever seen any mention of that contest available on DVD. On of the best all-time shows is barely available other than on that one.

[NarcissisticDeity]

That one story about being on stage is about the only one that stands up-one story! That's hardly a trend regarding Schwarzenegger's cunning. Very easy to make these stories up afterwards, knowing that someone like ND will totally buy into them.

Schwarzenegger has admitted to losing that show from back in the day, over and over again saying that he knew backstage before posing that he was beaten.

Well of course this is the Flex/Weider/Iron Age version; he could've gotten up if he'd had the balls so in fact, he wasn't up to the challenge, contrary to your interpretation. Interesting that he never talks about THIS story but has gone on and on about all the others that show him favorably. What a surprise that this embarassing chapter is almost completely off the radar in fact, just like those compromising Pumping Iron out-takes.

Thats one story of Arnold's cunning? no there are more than that. ever watch pumping iron? see how he toyed with Big Lou? Serge Nubret? in 1980 he was telling jokes at the pre-judging just before Zane was about to hit one the mandatories so while Frank is laughing away Arnold is dead serious hitting the shot. stories of Arnold's mind-games are legend .

And I don't know of you're mistaken what Arnold said from his first encounter with Sergio in 1969 at the Mr Olympia with 72 ? but here is what Arnold had to say about that from his book

"Then, for the first time, I saw Sergio Oliva in person. I understood why they called him the Myth. It was as jarring, as if I'd walked into a wall. He destroyed me. He was so huge, he was so fantastic, there was no way I could even think of beating him. I admitted my defeat and felt some of my pump go away. I tried. But I'd been so taken back by my first sight of Sergio Oliva that I think I settled for second place before we walked out on the stage."

and maybe Sergio should have beaten Arnold in 1972 it would have made for a better contest in 1973 Arnold was steadily improving so it would have been interesting to see what happened.

And don't declare he wasn't up to the challenge unless you were personally there and witnessed the event because thats your fantasy taking over your logic , Arnold went to get up on stage and Jope stopped him , maybe it was because Arnold was going to get his ass handed to him , maybe it was for other reasons , who knows? I don't and neither do you so stop acting like you have inside information that no one else is privy to .

[growth]

That's what i thought, was going to buy that because it's the only place i've ever seen any mention of that contest available on DVD. On of the best all-time shows is barely available other than on that one.

You'll get the complete routines of Serge, Sergio, Franco and of course Arnold and a bit of a posedown - no comparisons, but that is not really surprising.

[alexxx]

What make these pics "never before seen"? I have every one of them in a Weider mag. Anyone around that time that was into bb has seen these pics.

Well I've never seen them before! If you have some you would like to share then please do so.

[alexxx]

"Then, for the first time, I saw Sergio Oliva in person. I understood why they called him the Myth. It was as jarring, as if I'd walked into a wall. He destroyed me. He was so huge, he was so fantastic, there was no way I could even think of beating him. I admitted my defeat and felt some of my pump go away. I tried. But I'd been so taken back by my first sight of Sergio Oliva that I think I settled for second place before we walked out on the stage."

You guys got it wrong! Arnold was refering to the 1969 contest. His first mr. Olympia and only loss to Sergio. But he did admit many times that Sergio was the better bodybuilder.