Author Topic: HGH--------HGH-----------HGH (Read 8402 times)

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **on:** July 30, 2006, 10:47:18 AM »

This may have been posted before, but there alot of guys here now that Id like to here there opinion from

Im wanting to run HGH on top of my next deca/sust cycle..... Im wondering whats the best way to do this----How much do I need? maybe 500iu

whitewidow · « **Reply #1 on:** July 30, 2006, 12:46:31 PM »

Im telling you man- save that money and buy a car or something else for yourself-
unless your planning on competing its just not worth the money-

udeluz · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2006, 02:53:50 PM »

LOL,

I hear ya bro slin is big $$$$$

Maybe when we are 45-50 years old it will be more affordable

emn1964 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2006, 04:26:07 PM »

How much depends on how long you want to run it and at what dose. Personally I do 6ius a day (4 in the am and 2 in the afternoon). I start the growth about a month before my aas cycle and run it for a total of about 6 mos. With a good diet and anabolics and androgens I get great results. Everyone has different experience though.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2006, 04:35:41 PM »

4-6 iu ed minimum for 4 months minimum...if you're going to do it, I say run it 6 months and do it right. This is going to put you in the 500-1000iu needed depending on the dose and duration you go with.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #5 on:** July 30, 2006, 06:24:06 PM »

Quote from: Arnold jr on July 30, 2006, 04:35:41 PM

4-6 iu ed minimum for 4 months minimum...if you're going to do it, I say run it 6 months and do it right. This is going to put you in the 500-1000iu needed depending on the dose and duration you go with.

youu guys are right, those prices are rediculous---- I just like what it does to people--- but like widow said I could pay off my truck with 4000 worth of HCG----I guess Im just dreaming---plus I got excited because I was in the mall inn the banana republic dressing room pretending like I was trying on clothes but I was doing all kinds of poses with all those mirrors and I was like-damn--- one mean ass cycle and I'll be a monster--so then I started getting wild ideas

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #6 on:** July 30, 2006, 06:30:23 PM »

Quote from: whitewidow on July 30, 2006, 12:46:31 PM

Im telling you man- save that money and buy a car or something else for yourself-
unless your planning on competing its just not worth the money-

Agree with this. Or unless your pockets are deep!

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #7 on:** July 30, 2006, 06:57:42 PM »

Quote from: Luv2Hurt on July 30, 2006, 06:30:23 PM

Agree with this. Or unless your pockets are deep!

i got tthe cash but where do you draw the line--and explain it to the wife

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2006, 07:13:48 PM »

You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day, even for 2 months you'll see a huge difference, I don't think you need to run it for 6 months at 6iu's a day, that's like NPC competitor doses. You'll start seeing the results around the 2 month mark. Also you don't have to go for the gold (Humatrope or Serostim) you can go for a cheap alternative like Jintropin by GenSci.

udeluz · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2006, 07:17:09 PM »

So what are we talking $$ for 2-3 months?

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #10 on:** July 30, 2006, 08:04:16 PM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on July 30, 2006, 07:13:48 PM

You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day, even for 2 months you'll see a huge difference, I don't think you need to run it for 6 months at 6iu's a day, that's like NPC competitor doses. You'll start seeing the results around the 2 month mark. Also you don't have to go for the gold (Humatrope or Serostim) you can go for a cheap alternative like Jintropin by GenSci.

thats more like what I wanted to hear Cap--- you ARE speaking from personal experience right?? Thought so.... what you outlined is about what I had in mind-- I just wanted a booster with my next ccyle to add in some good 100% keepable gains--also change the shape of muscle--- I know where for 260 to get 100iu

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #11 on:** July 30, 2006, 08:18:22 PM »

Anytime BigJohn

I would also suggest being on anavar during that time to maximize keepable gains, for some reason anavar and GH work AMAZING together.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #12 on:** July 30, 2006, 08:20:50 PM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on July 30, 2006, 07:13:48 PM

You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day, even for 2 months you'll see a huge difference, I don't think you need to run it for 6 months at 6iu's a day, that's like NPC competitor doses. You'll start seeing the results around the 2 month mark. Also you don't have to go for the gold (Humatrope or Serostim) you can go for a cheap alternative like Jintropin by GenSci.

Here's the problem with low dose GH, especially concerning someone who is still relatively young such as Big John. Most people produce around 2iu of gh naturally until they are in the mid-30's range, so taking in a dose of 2iu ed when you are below this age would be pointless. All you would be doing is replacing natural gh with the injected form which is not much of a benefit. So a higher dose, and I'm not implying a ridiculous dose, should be run and for an extended time for it to be worth anything.

emn1964 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 30, 2006, 08:31:41 PM »

Arnold-are you suggesting that 2ius/day would suppress natural hgh production even if injected in the morning? If that is what you are saying I'd like to see that research. I've read, and I'll have to dig out from where, that 2 ius does not suppress natural hgh production if injected in the morning (when hgh production is low).

Arnold jr · « **Reply #14 on:** July 30, 2006, 08:34:00 PM »

Quote from: emn1964 on July 30, 2006, 08:31:41 PM

Arnold-are you suggesting that 2ius/day would suppress natural hgh production even if injected in the morning? If that is what you are saying I'd like to see that research. I've read, and I'll have to dig out from where, that 2 ius does not suppress natural hgh production if injected in the morning (when hgh production is low).

That is my understanding, and like I always say, if I'm wrong I'm wrong and I have no problems admitting it when that is the case. I'm not an expert when it comes to GH, but I think I have a good basic understanding. Hopefully "mem" or "freaker" will shed some light on this for us.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #15 on:** July 30, 2006, 10:26:34 PM »

yeah---cause I know mem knows his GH--- and yeah, it gets kind of confusing--I see where your coming from arnold about the natural gh-- but I just cant see how I could take 2 iu each day for 4 months and not see major changes--- I know peopl who have done it youger than me (Im 29) and got permanent muscle bell changes and permanent muscle gains

whitewidow · « **Reply #16 on:** July 30, 2006, 10:39:50 PM »

id say the benefit to cost ratio is not very good when it comes to HGH- you literally will spend thousands on a good cycle of it- trust me-I thought about it for awhile myself.

mem · « **Reply #17 on:** July 30, 2006, 11:24:19 PM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on July 30, 2006, 07:13:48 PM

- - You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day,
even for 2 months you'll see a huge difference - -

Agree totally with respect to dosages mentioned
(my direct personal experience, past 5 years)
even at the lower end of 2 iu. I feel that it IS more
important to have the balance of ingredients use
EG. Test (androgen), Deca (anabolic) with Hgh,
more than just with high doses of growth . . .

Remodels/refines my physique each time used.

You guys that have seen me post KNOW
that I like Hgh, irrespective of cost.

I think that it IS LIMITED in benefit when
used by most athlete below 30 years old.
*better result when in biological decline,
over the hill ; ) like me.

rccs · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2006, 03:52:53 AM »

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 30, 2006, 10:47:18 AM

This may have been posted before, but there alot of guys here now that Id like to here there opinion from

Im wanting to run HGH on top of my next deca/sust cycle..... Im wondering whats the best way to do this----How much do I need? maybe 500iu

Best way is through anal bombardment

How about that Mr. bluesfan

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2006, 06:45:01 AM »

Quote from: rccs on July 31, 2006, 03:52:53 AM

Best way is through anal bombardment How about that Mr. bluesfan

lol

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2006, 06:45:45 AM »

Quote from: mem on July 30, 2006, 11:24:19 PM

Agree totally with respect to dosages mentioned
(my direct personal experience, past 5 years)
even at the lower end of 2 iu. I feel that it IS more
important to have the balance of ingredients use
EG. Test (androgen), Deca (anabolic) with Hgh,
more than just with high doses of growth . . .

Remodels/refines my physique each time used.

You guys that have seen me post KNOW
that I like Hgh, irrespective of cost.

I think that it IS LIMITED in benefit when
used by most athlete below 30 years old.
*better result when in biological decline,
over the hill ; ) like me.

is 29 a good age to start mem?

mem · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2006, 07:18:49 AM »

Much to do with when you ARE in hormonal decline . . .

In other words a (non-competing) college student would
NOT see the same benefit as you or me. They should
have ample amounts subsequent to their training efforts,
where I feel some may report limited benefits as their
dose is not much above baseline levels.

BJBF, 29 IS a prudent age to consider it . . .

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2006, 10:56:13 AM »

Quote from: mem on July 31, 2006, 07:18:49 AM

Much to do with when you ARE in hormonal decline . . .

In other words a (non-competing) college student would
NOT see the same benefit as you or me. They should
have ample amounts subsequent to their training efforts,
where I feel some may report limited benefits as their
dose is not much above baseline levels.

BJBF, 29 IS a prudent age to consider it . . .

Im going to order 200iu and run it for 100 days--2 iu per day during my next cyle of sust/deca ----- I will proly throw in a little turanabol and tren also----- thanks alot mem-- you the man

udeluz · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2006, 05:25:16 PM »

John Pm me about the slin

4thAD · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2006, 05:44:00 PM »

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Author Topic: HGH--------HGH-----------HGH (Read 8402 times)

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