Lee: "It might fail, it might not fail. it's not about making money. Compete against different people for a change. Many good athletes come to an IFBB show and these guys are never called out. The NOC gives guys a chance to show what they've got."
Bob: "Why the PDI?"
Lee: "the IFBB used to always say, if you don't like it, go there. there was no place to go. All the athletes complain, but they all kiss ass when the ifbb brass comes around. Yes sir, no sir. I know drugs might shrinkin your testes, but you shuld still have balls".