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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #75 on: September 06, 2006, 01:27:04 PM »
1st and last time someone made ronnie look small - it will happen again and when it does - ronnie will have a battle on his hands

Gunter is more impressive that Ron any day of the week

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #76 on: September 06, 2006, 06:39:02 PM »
Gunter is more impressive that Ron any day of the week


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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #77 on: September 06, 2006, 06:40:56 PM »
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #78 on: September 06, 2006, 06:44:07 PM »
Ronnie is only a shadow of 1999, but he is still the class of the field.

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2006, 06:47:09 PM »
Ronnie is only a shadow of 1999, but he is still the class of the field.

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2006, 06:48:03 PM »


nothing new. the day a Mr Olympia is defeated would be the day everything changes

It has NOTHING to do with the fact that Ronnie is Mr. O. Jay doesn't have a chance. Ronnie destroys him, PERIOD. Noboday can "dethrone" him cause he's just to good!

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2006, 06:55:40 PM »
if Jay were smart he'd go the for the same bodyweight as last year but concentrate on tightening up and streamlining his waist.  I heard he was heavier than last year at point, weight isn't really the issue.  He's never gonna be bigger than Ron but he can, especially at this point in ron's career outclass him by being more refined and polished.  If it's true that ron is coming in at over 300 than he'll get a gift, he looks terrible compared to when he first won the sandow.  Last year he looked like another person, if you put his first olympia BDB next to his last years shot and showed it to someone who's new to the sport they wouldn't even know it was the same guy.  Last year Jay pretty much equalled ron in back shots and looked better in them in my opinion because he was more complete and muscular head to toe, if he can come in really defined this year and get his color right like he had in 2001 he can beat ron but the judges will never let that happen so it's kinda a mute point.
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2006, 08:09:11 PM »
Yes Big Ron can be beat....BUT we all know that will never happen until he retires sorry...With the way judging is right now in the ifbb, Ronnie could come in looking like he is out of shape guest posing and still win at the Olympia.... 8)
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2006, 08:11:31 PM »
Yes Big Ron can be beat....BUT we all know that will never happen until he retires sorry...With the way judging is right now in the ifbb, Ronnie could come in looking like he is out of shape guest posing and still win at the Olympia.... 8)


Ronnie could come in like Chris Farley and win the title plus Best Posing Routine! But sadly he will fall, and he will be beaten!

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2006, 08:15:16 PM »
Too many politics involved for Ronnie to lose...He will just have to retire....Even if he does get beaten on stage, the judges will still give him the nod in the end...The judges can't give it to anyone else if Ronnie is competing because they fear how good of graces Big Ron and God have....LoL ::)
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2006, 09:58:21 PM »
i'm a huge Cutler fan but Ronnie destroyed Jay in that clip.

I disagree

I think Cutler looked better in that clip and should have won

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« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2006, 11:22:19 PM »
cuttler got screwed tht year- :'( he should have knocked him off- thats why the O is not really a fair show its based alot on politics and those pics are proof-jays midsection was way better and his legs were way more conditioned and grainy and plus he has visible calfs- i admit ron brougth his legs up from 2001 but his gutt also grew a great deal :P

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2006, 11:24:27 PM »
king ron eats poop sandwiches.

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2006, 12:35:11 AM »
2001 maybe.

but no way in hell did he deserve to lose 2000: Kevin was nowhere near his early 90's form that night:





  In 2002, sure.  But not in 2000.


pretty tough to beat Ronnie when your back is not one of your strongest attributes.

coleman made everyone look like kids next to him..colemans legs looked like huge tree trunks in that show.kevin was no where near coleman in that show.coleman was looking like an in shape silverback gorilla..i really like colemans 2000 olympia shape
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2006, 01:48:15 AM »
Levrone got robbed twice against Coleman
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2006, 01:51:55 AM »
Levrone got robbed twice against Coleman
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2006, 02:27:20 AM »
I think the only way Coleman can be beaten is if the judges penalize him for his midsection.  If that occurs even Jay wouldn’t finish 2nd.  Guys like Dexter and will have a much better chance in wining.


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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #92 on: September 07, 2006, 02:04:41 PM »
Is it coincidence that Jay achieved his best shape the year he also failed the diuretics test?

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2006, 02:20:54 PM »
Ronnie cant be beat because he hasnt been beat.  The Show of Strength was a fluke.  When it comes to Olympias he is unbeatable.  Why doesnt everybody just let it go?  He is so far ahead of the rest of the field.  Jay will have to be a bit better than last year to win and he started showing slight signs of distention which is from trying to play the size game obviously.
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2006, 11:49:34 PM »
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  Hulkster, no one "hates" Ronnie. He was, in his 1998 and 1999 forms, a superb bodybuilder. But the thing is that he's not the greatest ever, like you make him out to be. There were far more complete bodybuilders than him, like Oliva, Dorian, Wheeler, Arnold, etc. Ronnie doesen't have a 1995 Levrone to face, or a 1993 ASC Wheeler, or a 1993 Dorian. All these bodybuilders had strenghs over Ronnie that you just refuse to admit because you're biased: a super-fan who puts logic on the side, when it comes to your hero. ;)

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #95 on: September 08, 2006, 08:36:03 AM »
King Ron can be beat in everyones eyes except the current judges in the ifbb....Just take a look at 2001...Nuffsaid... :o

No he can't.  If he is in any of the coditions that he won with he can not be beat....

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #96 on: September 08, 2006, 08:47:14 AM »


nothing new. the day a Mr Olympia is defeated would be the day everything changes

He was at the Europa show by Gunter.  Nothing changed.  It wasn't the O, but could of been.
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #97 on: September 08, 2006, 05:53:02 PM »
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There were far more complete bodybuilders than him, like Oliva, Dorian, Wheeler, Arnold, etc.

the fact that you think those particular bodybuilders are more complete than a 98/99 Ronnie shows how biased YOU are.

Wheeler - huge glaring lack of lats, hams and glutes against Ronnie, who only has a lack of calves.

Arnold - huge glaring lack of triceps, lats, quads against Ronnie, who only has a lack of calves.

Dorian - huge lack of arm, delt, pec and quad shape against Ronnie, poor biceps in comparison to peak Ronnie, who only lacks calves.

Sergio - sergio had the taper, but lacked the detail against ronnie (since it was the 60's its no wonder why), who only lacks calves.




no Sucky, those bodybuilders are NOT more complete than a peak Ronnie...

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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #98 on: September 09, 2006, 01:35:52 AM »
the fact that you think those particular bodybuilders are more complete than a 98/99 Ronnie shows how biased YOU are.

  Said the "leader of the Colemaniacs".  ::)Ok, let's see...

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Wheeler - huge glaring lack of lats, hams and glutes against Ronnie, who only has a lack of calves.

  His lats were not as wide as Ronnie's; granted, he competed at a bodyweight 40 lbs lighter! But the fact remains that he was more complete. His hams were as tight as Ronnie's, but again not as big. Glutes should not be large: like abs, the glutes is one of the few bodyprts which should not be hypertrophied. Wheeler's head-to-toe balance was always superior to Ronnie's.

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Arnold - huge glaring lack of triceps, lats, quads against Ronnie, who only has a lack of calves.

  Only you would say that. There's almost an universal consensus that Arnold or Sergio was the greatest bodybuilder ever. One of the two. Arnold incomplete? Please...the only bodyart he was sub-par at were exactly the same as Ronnie's: calves. Arnold's pecs were the most massive ever, his lats were wide, tapered and very thick - for the standards of the time. Triceps? His tris were not as good as his biceps, but they were the best of his era...besides Oliva's. His quads were not that great, ok, but his front quad separations were phenomenal. Saying that Arnold Schwarzenegger wasn't a complete bodybuilder... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Hulkster, Hulkster... ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Dorian - huge lack of arm, delt, pec and quad shape against Ronnie, poor biceps in comparison to peak Ronnie, who only lacks calves.

  See my 600 posts and 300 pics on the truce thread... 8)

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Sergio - sergio had the taper, but lacked the detail against ronnie (since it was the 60's its no wonder why), who only lacks calves.

  Oliva's genetics, refinement, taper, fullness, completeness and long muscle bellies make Ronnie look like an amateur compared to him, when it comes to balance and quality. You're talking about the most genetically gifted bodybuilder of all times...
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Re: King Ron Can Be Beat....
« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2006, 01:43:07 AM »
  Said the "leader of the Colemaniacs".  ::)Ok, let's see...

  His lats were not as wide as Ronnie's; granted, he competed at a bodyweight 40 lbs lighter! But the fact remains that he was more complete. His hams were as tight as Ronnie's, but again not as big. Glutes should not be large: like abs, the glutes is one of the few bodyprts which should not be hypertrophied. Wheeler's head-to-toe balance was always superior to Ronnie's.

  Only you would say that. There's almost an universal consensus that Arnold or Sergio was the greatest bodybuilder ever. One of the two. Arnold incomplete? Please...the only bodyart he was sub-par at were exactly the same as Ronnie's: calves. Arnold's pecs were the most massive ever, his lats were wide, tapered and very thick - for the standards of the time. Triceps? His tris were not as good as his biceps, but they were the best of his era...besides Oliva's. His quads were not that great, ok, but his front quad separations were phenomenal. Saying that Arnold Schwarzenegger wasn't a complete bodybuilder... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Hulkster, Hulkster... ::) ::) ::) ::)

  See my 600 posts and 300 pics on the truce thread... 8)

  Oliva's genetics, refinement, taper, fullness, completeness and long muscle bellies make Ronnie look like an amateur compared to him, when it comes to balance and quality. You're talking about the most genetically gifted bodybuilder of all times...


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