King, the Montreal show (my take)

[Yorkie T]

Bro I DO NOT take this as a personal attack and I am not trying to be a dick, but what the hell do you mean by a distended lower back?  Are you saying that he has tumors growing on his lower spine?  Or that his kidneys are extremely inflamed?  If you could see his lower back up close and personal, you would see how extemely thick and striated it is from doing heavy deadlifts.  His lower back does look different for this reason.

i know your not trying to be a dick buddy,but im making a serious point.i think it was in the 1 day out thread there was a shot of his back and it looked distended,i wasnt the only one who noticed it i think it was 240 who also said the same thing(i might be wrong),in that thread i asked whether the distention was caused by the same thing that gives you distended abs(it seems logical) but i didnt get an answer.

this isnt a knock on you. ive stated a couple of times that the difference in conditioning has been great and you did manage to bring his waist down to a degree,and i give you props for that your obviously more skilled in contest prep expertise than i am.but i think its a valid point so i made it

[Figo]

Hahahaha yes. That's some funny shit . Here's a much bigger list

Confucius Says

Man who stand on toilet high on pot.

Man who jump off cliff, jump to conclusion.

Man who run behind car get exhausted.

Virgin just like balloon ... one prick, all gone.

Secretary not permanent until she screwed on desk.

Man who put cock in Peanut Butter jar is F***ing Nuts.

Man with tool in woman mouth May not necessarily be dentist.

Couple on 7-day honeymoon make hole weak.

Girl who marry Richard must kiss Dick.

Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day.

Man who excels at putting worm on hook is Master Baiter

Man young when he snatches kisses, old when he kisses snatches.

Man who loses key to lady's apartment get no new-key.

Man who go to sleep with itchy butt, wake with smelly fingers...

War do not determine who right, war determine who left.

Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok

Schoolboy who play with schoolgirl during wrong period, get caught red-handed.

Girl who sit on judge's lap get an honourable discharge.

Girl who go camping must beware of evil intent.

Man with tight trousers is pressing his luck.

He who farts in church sits in own pew.

He who sneezes without a handkerchief takes matters into his own hands.

He who fish in other's hole often catch crabs.

Man who go to bed with hard problem wake up with solution in hand.

Squirrel who run up woman's leg not find nuts.

He who kisses woman's ass get crack in jaw.

Passionate kiss just like spider web - lead to undoing of fly.

Girl who sit on jockey's lap get hot tip.

If you want pretty nurse, you got to be patient.

Man who stand on street corner with hands in pockets, not feeling crazy, feeling nuts.

Woman who go to bachelor apartment for snack get tit-bit.

Man who put rooster in Ice Compartment take out Stiff Cock.

No difference between man and mouse - both end in pussy.

Nail on board is not good as screw on bench.

Stop!
Too much!! Brilliant.

[Disgusted]

i know your not trying to be a dick buddy,but im making a serious point.i think it was in the 1 day out thread there was a shot of his back and it looked distended,i wasnt the only one who noticed it i think it was 240 who also said the same thing(i might be wrong),in that thread i asked whether the distention was caused by the same thing that gives you distended abs(it seems logical) but i didnt get an answer.

this isnt a knock on you. ive stated a couple of times that the difference in conditioning has been great and you did manage to bring his waist down to a degree,and i give you props for that your obviously more skilled in contest prep expertise than i am.but i think its a valid point so i made it

No offense taken bro.  To be serious though, King's lower back is very thickly muscled and in a different way than other people's and I'm assuming this is from the heavy deadlifts he's done for many years.

[Mr. Intenseone]

Disgusted did a great job with Kamali this past week, but by all the pics I've seen Wolf beat him!!

[Figo]

Yes. And yes.

[kiwiol]

Stop!
Too much!! Brilliant.

Here's a few I missed that are just as funny

Confucius say,

man who do business in whore house get jerked around

baseball wrong. Man with four balls not able to walk

panties not best thing on earth, but next to it

woman who put husband in doghouse soon find him in cat house

man who fight with wife all day, get no piece at night

it take many nail to build crib, one screw to fill it

man who keep feet on ground have trouble putting on pants

better to be pissed off than pissed on

sex is like the army, the closer you are to discharge, the better you feel

man who sleep in bed of nails is holy

do not drink and park, accidents cause people  

to meet girl in park is good, but to park meat in girl is better

squirrel lay on rock and crack nuts, man lay on crack and rock nuts

butcher who back into meat grinder get a little behind in his orders

man who live in glass house, should change in basement

man under wheelbarrow playing with tool, not necessarily mechanic

foolish man give wife grand piano, wise man give wife upright organ

man who sits on stool smells like shit

woman who go to man's apartment for snack, get titbit

man who lay woman on ground, get piece on earth

man who get kicked in testicles, left holding the bag

man trapped in pantry, have ass in jam

learn to masturbate - come in handy

waitress who sit on leper's lap, keep tip

man who snort coke, get bubbles up nose

cow with no legs, ground beef

baby born in car with automatic transmission, grow to become shiftless bastard

man with head on railroad track, listening for train to come, get splitting headache

man who drive like hell, bound to get there

man who sit on tack, get point

support bacteria - is only culture some people have

man who have last laugh, not get joke

man piss in wind, wind piss back

man who eat pussy, do lip service

man who pull woman's bra strap, may get bust in face

man who eat too many prunes, get good run for money

[whitewidow]

I love how these apologists always come on and tell us how we just don't understand. You have to be there to be able to form a real opinion. The pictures aren't accurate. What bullshit. Anyone with eyes can clearly see that Wolf is superior. It's not even close. And talking about detail, give me a freaking break, Tamali has absolutely no detail anywhere in his arms, chest, delts, legs. Tamali was given a gift, plain and simple. Don't come on here and tell us we don't know what's going on. This result is a complete joke and we all know it. Don't make it worse by insulting us too.

lol- you are an insult to bodybuilding- lets see some pics stick boy-lol

[getfast81]

Glad for King. Keep on improving!!

[jwb]

Disgusted did a great job with Kamali this past week, but by all the pics I've seen Wolf beat him!!

I'm with Joe on this one and not many people have had more disagreements with Disgusted on here than me.

The guy knows his shit and, looking at the photos, I'm pretty sure he fixed up a few of king's poses as well (no crunching down on the front double bicep, the front relaxed done more effectively than usual the majority of the time etc).

Hopefully King will stick with him for the next year or so and LISTEN to what he says especially in regards to training style to bring up his weak points... most of which need king to lighten the load and isolate each muscle more with slower, peak contraction movements.

One point chick is 100% right on is that king needs to not go above 245lbs onstage... conditioning is key for him.

As for the montreal? Wolf looked better to me from the photos... he does need to fix his front double bicep pose but the taper, quads and arms were so much better than king's superiority in certain areas I had to give it to him.

Conditioning wise photos are not a great guide but if darrem can beat both being softer than wolf should have beaten king then as well...

[Disgusted]

I'm with Joe on this one and not many people have had more disagreements with Disgusted on here than me.

The guy knows his shit and, looking at the photos, I'm pretty sure he fixed up a few of king's poses as well (no crunching down on the front double bicep, the front relaxed done more effectively than usual the majority of the time etc).

Hopefully King will stick with him for the next year or so and LISTEN to what he says especially in regards to training style to bring up his weak points... most of which need king to lighten the load and isolate each muscle more with slower, peak contraction movements.

One point chick is 100% right on is that king needs to not go above 245lbs onstage... conditioning is key for him.

As for the montreal? Wolf looked better to me from the photos... he does need to fix his front double bicep pose but the taper, quads and arms were so much better than king's superiority in certain areas I had to give it to him.

Conditioning wise photos are not a great guide but if darrem can beat both being softer than wolf should have beaten king then as well...

Even though I am sure we will disagree again in the future thanks for the props!  You are right about the poses and the future training. Putting an inch on your arms and adding some outer quad sweep does not equate to added body weight. At least not to any great degree. Wait till you see what he looks like next time after I work with him for 7 days instead of 6. 

[Soul Crusher]

Even though I am sure we will disagree again in the future thanks for the props!  You are right about the poses and the future training. Putting an inch on your arms and adding some outer quad sweep does not equate to added body weight. At least not to any great degree. Wait till you see what he looks like next time after I work with him for 7 days instead of 6. 

I think you did a great job with him.  He should forget whoever else he has been taking advice from and stick a noral offseason diet and workout.  I also think he could get MAD RESPECT if he cleared the decks on this board and simply came back and stopped the smack talking and promises of some grand scheme.  He is entertaining for sure, but the mouth is just too much.

As far as the show went, based upon the pics I have to say that Wolffe looked a lot harder and a lot more detailed.
I was not there of course, but I am only going based on the pics.

 

[affy]

i bet king is smoking a cigar right now while reading all the attention he's getting on these boards and just laughing it up

WE ALL KNOW YOUR READING THIS SHAHRIAR, just reply once...we'll be nice

[thisiskeith12]

I love how these apologists always come on and tell us how we just don't understand. You have to be there to be able to form a real opinion. The pictures aren't accurate. What bullshit. Anyone with eyes can clearly see that Wolf is superior. It's not even close. And talking about detail, give me a freaking break, Tamali has absolutely no detail anywhere in his arms, chest, delts, legs. Tamali was given a gift, plain and simple. Don't come on here and tell us we don't know what's going on. This result is a complete joke and we all know it. Don't make it worse by insulting us too.

Well said

[gmflex]

That would be nice if kamali would reply

[jwb]

Even though I am sure we will disagree again in the future thanks for the props!  You are right about the poses and the future training. Putting an inch on your arms and adding some outer quad sweep does not equate to added body weight. At least not to any great degree. Wait till you see what he looks like next time after I work with him for 7 days instead of 6. 

Of course we'll disagree... you can't help being wrong some of the time buddy!

[jem123]

First a couple of things. I love this sport and i have no axe to grind against king. In fact i think he looked 100% better this time out. I read this thread with interest however and i need to call it as I see it, namely THERE IS NO WAYYYY ON EARTH KING SHOULD HAVE BEATEN WOLF!

You can say king was better conditioned and was not on 'shot' when a photo was taken, but I have not seen one single photo where king beats wolf, not one.

This is a bullshit decision and everybody (well almost it seems!) can see it is.

Disgusted did a great job on King and he looked much better but to suggest that King should have beaten Wolf is way wide of the mark.

As I said I love this sport but it is decisions like this that makes me realise how fucked up it is.

[jwb]

First a couple of things. I love this sport and i have no axe to grind against king. In fact i think he looked 100% better this time out. I read this thread with interest however and i need to call it as I see it, namely THERE IS NO WAYYYY ON EARTH KING SHOULD HAVE BEATEN WOLF!

You can say king was better conditioned and was not on 'shot' when a photo was taken, but I have not seen one single photo where king beats wolf, not one.

This is a bullshit decision and everybody (well almost it seems!) can see it is.

Disgusted did a great job on King and he looked much better but to suggest that King should have beaten Wolf is way wide of the mark.

As I said I love this sport but it is decisions like this that makes me realise how fucked up it is.

Don't love this sport brother it'll break your heart... been breaking mine for 20 years!

[Colossus_1986]

First a couple of things. I love this sport and i have no axe to grind against king. In fact i think he looked 100% better this time out. I read this thread with interest however and i need to call it as I see it, namely THERE IS NO WAYYYY ON EARTH KING SHOULD HAVE BEATEN WOLF!

You can say king was better conditioned and was not on 'shot' when a photo was taken, but I have not seen one single photo where king beats wolf, not one.

This is a bullshit decision and everybody (well almost it seems!) can see it is.

Disgusted did a great job on King and he looked much better but to suggest that King should have beaten Wolf is way wide of the mark.

As I said I love this sport but it is decisions like this that makes me realise how fucked up it is.

People did indeed boo when Dennis was announced 5th. I was happy as hell to see and meet the guy. even got an autographed Mag from him...but unless you were there in person, it's hard to judge from just photos and criticize. I had no doubt Dennis was ON! but I think the judges were abit too focused on the fact that King improved...and also that king has been in the sport for a long time! (sometimes it's all about paying dues in the biz) I wish dennis the best! and no doubt he's a rising star, but King was, as many stated: in his best shape in a long while. Liking Dennis wolf and all, i wasn't so upset, or shocked when they called him 5th. I saw the scoresheet thought, and feel however that Dennis should have had numbers ALOT closer to Kings...because King over Dennis, would be by a thin margin...they both were in top shape.
_i also got some pics that i took yesterday! enjoy folks!
PS-Props to "Disgusted" for the work, and hopefully will be the man who keeps Kamali a constant competitor, and not a 50/50 filp flop.

[jwb]

People did indeed boo when Dennis was announced 5th. I was happy as hell to see and meet the guy. even got an autographed Mag from him...but unless you were there in person, it's hard to judge from just photos and criticize. I had no doubt Dennis was ON! but I think the judges were abit too focused on the fact that King improved...and also that king has been in the sport for a long time! (sometimes it's all about paying dues in the biz) I wish dennis the best! and no doubt he's a rising star, but King was, as many stated: in his best shape in a long while. Liking Dennis wolf and all, i wasn't so upset, or shocked when they called him 5th. I saw the scoresheet thought, and feel however that Dennis should have had numbers ALOT closer to Kings...because King over Dennis, would be by a thin margin...they both were in top shape.
_i also got some pics that i took yesterday! enjoy folks!
PS-Props to "Disgusted" for the work, and hopefully will be the man who keeps Kamali a constant competitor, and not a 50/50 filp flop.

did king sharpen up from prejudging to the evening show in your unbiased opinion?

[Colossus_1986]

did king sharpen up from prejudging to the evening show in your unbiased opinion?

I really think he maintained it pretty well. not much of a improvement/loss if any
I dunno if in shows like this they count the routine, but his was off the hook! that might have been a factor.

[Wombat]

No offense taken bro.  To be serious though, King's lower back is very thickly muscled and in a different way than other people's and I'm assuming this is from the heavy deadlifts he's done for many years.

you want to know who's lower back blows King's out of the water....That would be the wolfman's...Take a good look at the pictures and tell me that Wolfman's lower back isn't one of the thickest on the planet....Wolfman has done some serious deadlifts....I don't see what you seeing in King's lower back...Kings back is starting to look deformed.  Like he has torn muscle's all over it...Its nothing like it used to be...

[arkk]

People did indeed boo when Dennis was announced 5th. I was happy as hell to see and meet the guy. even got an autographed Mag from him...but unless you were there in person, it's hard to judge from just photos and criticize. I had no doubt Dennis was ON! but I think the judges were abit too focused on the fact that King improved...and also that king has been in the sport for a long time! (sometimes it's all about paying dues in the biz) I wish dennis the best! and no doubt he's a rising star, but King was, as many stated: in his best shape in a long while. Liking Dennis wolf and all, i wasn't so upset, or shocked when they called him 5th. I saw the scoresheet thought, and feel however that Dennis should have had numbers ALOT closer to Kings...because King over Dennis, would be by a thin margin...they both were in top shape.
_i also got some pics that i took yesterday! enjoy folks!
PS-Props to "Disgusted" for the work, and hopefully will be the man who keeps Kamali a constant competitor, and not a 50/50 filp flop.

monster 5 year old gray camo shirt and flexing as hard as u can in every pic

[Yorkie T]

People did indeed boo when Dennis was announced 5th. I was happy as hell to see and meet the guy. even got an autographed Mag from him...but unless you were there in person, it's hard to judge from just photos and criticize. I had no doubt Dennis was ON! but I think the judges were abit too focused on the fact that King improved...and also that king has been in the sport for a long time! (sometimes it's all about paying dues in the biz) I wish dennis the best! and no doubt he's a rising star, but King was, as many stated: in his best shape in a long while. Liking Dennis wolf and all, i wasn't so upset, or shocked when they called him 5th. I saw the scoresheet thought, and feel however that Dennis should have had numbers ALOT closer to Kings...because King over Dennis, would be by a thin margin...they both were in top shape.
_i also got some pics that i took yesterday! enjoy folks!
PS-Props to "Disgusted" for the work, and hopefully will be the man who keeps Kamali a constant competitor, and not a 50/50 filp flop.

did you used to be the lead singer in the smashing pumpkins?

[Lift Studios]

Disgusted and I have gone back and forth on here before and it was nice to meet him in person. As with many people on here, when you meet face to face it's often very different. Jim (disgusted) is a good guy and knows his shit. His prep cred just went up in what he did with King for this show, no one can dispute that. This is by far the best I have seen King in a handful of shows I've seen him compete in. This show was one of the more entertaining and fun shows to be at. The competitors were having fun on stage during prejudging and the routines at night were entertaining as well. I'd have to give King the nod for the best routine of the night. Love him or hate him, he got the crowd energized at the night show. If I was to give one critism to King it would be his tan. I would have liked to see him darker to show his conditioning off a bit more. The whole King vs. Wolf discussion is one that everyone will agree on some points and disagree on others. I think many of the people find Wolf more aesthetically pleasing and can relate to him more, hence wanting him to do well. Dave Palumbo thought Art Atwood should win at the Europa, I like Mark Dugdale's physique. We all have physiques that we like. Many people think Jay should beat Ronnie, so on and so forth. The judges gave King the nod and what would a bodybuilding show be without fans disagreeing. There has yet to be a show where someone isn't pissed off about the placings.

The venue was top notch and the promoter did a great job. I'd recommend anyone thinking of competing or attending this show to do so next year.

LIFT

[kmhphoto]

This is by far the best I have seen King in a handful of shows I've seen him compete in. LIFT

It's difficult to judge from photos. Did you see it as King beating Dennis?