Author Topic: BRANCH WARREN and JOHNNIE JACKSON training styles (Read 8806 times)

the shadow · « **on:** September 05, 2006, 12:19:39 PM »

the other day i was watching there training clips and damn they train so damn fast its crazy...damn i have never seen any one train that fast and intense..is there any name to that type training..they both train faster than coleman and equally intense.my fuckin gym instructor always tells me to go slow and concentrate on my contractions.so does this warren and jackson style of training really help in building muscle.damn their rep speed are like crazy fast...i have never seen any one train that fast..and they don't even have sloppy form..most of the guys who train that way have sloppy form.they both have decent form with lighting speed..wow

one1234 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 05, 2006, 12:28:01 PM »

i saw one clip in youtube...i think they fastforwarded the clip to make him do pull ups really fast...u didnt watch that one did u....

sean · « **Reply #2 on:** September 05, 2006, 01:29:59 PM »

Quote from: the shadow on September 05, 2006, 12:19:39 PM

the other day i was watching there training clips and damn they train so damn fast its crazy...damn i have never seen any one train that fast and intense..is there any name to that type training..they both train faster than coleman and equally intense.my fuckin gym instructor always tells me to go slow and concentrate on my contractions.so does this warren and jackson style of training really help in building muscle.damn their rep speed are like crazy fast...i have never seen any one train that fast..and they don't even have sloppy form..most of the guys who train that way have sloppy form.they both have decent form with lighting speed..wow

they can do it because they're sauced to the gills and are pretty much idiots with good genetics that just touch weights and grow. They're also hella short. Easy to build mass with any means when your limbs are of midget status. Not hating here, just stating the fact.

sean · « **Reply #3 on:** September 05, 2006, 01:31:01 PM »

And yes, that video of Branch hitting 14 or so reps with 405 on incline is obsenly fast. I was watching for a pec tear with each and every rep.

IceCold · « **Reply #4 on:** September 05, 2006, 01:41:10 PM »

by training faster, you can use more weight, which will in turn build more strength and mass.

training like that also works the type 1 fibers better, which are for speed and strength.

ever see an olympic lifter train?

sean · « **Reply #5 on:** September 05, 2006, 01:43:16 PM »

sure, with full body movements. Not on those more isolated movements like presses on a bench of any kind. But sure, if you body can handle it... What about "time under tension" for hypertrophy?

alexxx · « **Reply #6 on:** September 05, 2006, 02:45:23 PM »

Here is something you could try:

-load the bench press bar with the maximum weight it can handle

-get underneath

-get 5 guys to spot it of

-let it drop

Come back to me with the results.

Cold · « **Reply #7 on:** September 05, 2006, 02:56:27 PM »

force = mass * velocity
it makes sense to rep as fast as you can, without letting momentum take over or injuring urself.
i don't believe slow repping has done shat for me over the years.

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #8 on:** September 05, 2006, 03:04:37 PM »

Quote from: Cold on September 05, 2006, 02:56:27 PM

force = mass * velocity
it makes sense to rep as fast as you can, without letting momentum take over or injuring urself.
i don't believe slow repping has done shat for me over the years.

I rep pretty fast too at times. never really thought about it too much.

Yev33 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 05, 2006, 03:22:27 PM »

I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.

sarcasm · « **Reply #10 on:** September 05, 2006, 03:27:45 PM »

Quote from: Yev33 on September 05, 2006, 03:22:27 PM

I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.

that moron claims he can curl 245 for 8-10, hahahahaha, even Bill Kazmaier couldn't do that and Bill makes JOJ look like an underfed Brad Pitt.

SaleenS7525T · « **Reply #11 on:** September 05, 2006, 05:04:22 PM »

Quote from: Cold on September 05, 2006, 02:56:27 PM

force = mass * ~~velocity~~ acceleration

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #12 on:** September 05, 2006, 05:07:11 PM »

Quote from: Yev33 on September 05, 2006, 03:22:27 PM

I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.

Is it THAT sloppy?

Yev33 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2006, 06:51:03 PM »

Quote from: Jr. Yates on September 05, 2006, 05:07:11 PM

Is it THAT sloppy?

He does this in his Next Level DVD, someone on here probably has a clip. Let's put it this way, if you grabbed a barbell with the same grip you would normally use for curls, and then proceeded to do a hang clean, you would pretty much mimick Johnnie's form.

IceCold · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2006, 08:31:48 PM »

Quote from: Yev33 on September 05, 2006, 03:22:27 PM

I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.

i'm sure bill could do that.

years ago, i read about lee priest saying his best curl was a few reps with 315.

In it 2 win it · « **Reply #15 on:** September 05, 2006, 08:52:50 PM »

Ive tried to apply that same speed and intensity to my own personal training, and have really noticed the benefits. If youve ever seen the battle for the olympia video 05, branch and johnnie kill off a thourough chest workout in about 30 mins. They still manage to use strict form too!

the shadow · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:48:28 AM »

heres that video of warren incline bench pressing like a maniac...wow

http://ironvideos.com/view_clip.php?id=14

the shadow · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:06:19 AM »

heres an another clip where the bench rod slips out of the hands of warren..damn they both train like animals

jaejonna · « **Reply #18 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:11:17 AM »

Steroids is a powerful drug ...

Bigger Business · « **Reply #19 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:36:23 AM »

Quote from: Xerxes on September 05, 2006, 12:24:44 PM

I have som pics of them training and posing together in a magazine called body (swedish). Ill post the pics later (kinda tired).

those pics really show just how fast those bastards train!

WOOO · « **Reply #20 on:** September 06, 2006, 06:47:33 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on September 06, 2006, 05:48:28 AM

heres that video of warren incline bench pressing like a maniac...wow

http://ironvideos.com/view_clip.php?id=14

and branch has torn almost every muscle in his body why?

the shadow · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:35:25 AM »

Quote from: WOOO on September 06, 2006, 06:47:33 AM

and branch has torn almost every muscle in his body why?

no way man..he looks ok to me.form where did you heard this crap from?

sarcasm · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:41:59 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on September 06, 2006, 05:48:28 AM

heres that video of warren incline bench pressing like a maniac...wow

http://ironvideos.com/view_clip.php?id=14

he didn't lock out a single rep and the way he's arched that's more like a flat bench, horrible form

the shadow · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:49:07 AM »

Quote from: sarcasm on September 06, 2006, 07:41:59 AM

he didn't lock out a single rep and the way he's arched that's more like a flat bench, horrible form

but that works for him though and yes warrens chest is bigger than yours..as long he is big and ripped he can use wat ever form he wants to..and yes that form was not horrible jackass

sarcasm · « **Reply #24 on:** September 06, 2006, 07:54:32 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on September 06, 2006, 07:49:07 AM

but that works for him though and yes warrens chest is bigger than yours..as long he is big and ripped he can use wat ever form he wants to..and yes that form was not horrible jackass

hahahaha, his form was horrendous on those, He couldn't do 3 reps correctly.