Cutler against Mohammad, reaction on Flex Wheeler!

[The Viking]

I just saw the topic by Big Poppa J and must say that Mohammed looked good when compared with Jay Cutler.
Don`t forget that Cutler`s waist ain't too small either, when he is not in top shape. The pictures were taken at the Grand Prix of England.

[affeman]

A guy with such a stereotype arabic face and arabic name like Mustafa won't EVER be crowned Mr.O, just forget about it.

[buffbodz]

A guy with such a stereotype arabic face and arabic name like Mustafa won't EVER be crowned Mr.O, just forget about it.

1983 Mr. Olympia Results
September 24 at Munich, Germany

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Place Name 
1 Samir Bannout 
2 Mohamed El Makkaway 
3 Lee Haney 
4 Frank Zane 
5 Bertil Fox 
6 Jusup Wilkosz 
7 Albert Beckles 
8 Johhny Fuller 
9 Hubert Metz 
10 Jacques Neuville 
11 James Gaubert 
12 Dale Ruplinger 
13 Gerard Buinoud 
14 Ed Corney 
15 Lance Dreher 

[dorkeroo]

1983 Mr. Olympia Results
September 24 at Munich, Germany

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Place Name 
1 Samir Bannout 
2 Mohamed El Makkaway 
3 Lee Haney 
4 Frank Zane 
5 Bertil Fox 
6 Jusup Wilkosz 
7 Albert Beckles 
8 Johhny Fuller 
9 Hubert Metz 
10 Jacques Neuville 
11 James Gaubert 
12 Dale Ruplinger 
13 Gerard Buinoud 
14 Ed Corney 
15 Lance Dreher 

To be fair I think the political climate of the time was a little different.

[alexxx]

I though this thread was culter vs muhammad ali.

[dorkeroo]

I though this thread was culter vs muhammad ali.

Now THAT would be a thread!

[Adam Empire]

Now THAT would be a thread!

How about Cutler Vs a Zombie?

[Man of Steel]

This thread has the potential to be something very Cutler!!!

[dorkeroo]

How about Cutler Vs a Zombie?

To paraphrase another thread, Cutler is felt to be rather slow moving. So taking that into consideration, Cutler's assumed advantage in strength would be well matched against the zombie's lack of functioning pain receptors. Both would probably dress similarly as well as can be observed in some of Cutler's photoshoots negating any possible advantage due to fight attire.

The only problem I see here is the potential interference of the IFBB with the event and Cutler's suspension from competing in subsequent IFBB competitions. They have made it clear that concurrent IFBB/PDI membership is not permitted and I can only imagine the reprisals anyone joining the IFZBB would face. This is however, assuming Cutler makes it out of the fight with his brain in one piece. What is your take?

[Rearden Metal]

Cutler destroys Mustafa. Mustafa has great huge muscles but does not flow. Also, his conditioning is erratic at best.

[anvil]

Two thumbs up on dorkeroo's post 

[buffbodz]

To be fair I think the political climate of the time was a little different.

Yea, but He said EVER in caps.  Polotics shouldn't EVER play a roll in who is the best bodybuilder on the planet, no?

[HERACLES]

look at Mustafas hammie/quad seperation, and the SIZE of those HAMSTRINGS!    INCREDIBLE! 

[dorkeroo]

Two thumbs up on dorkeroo's post 

Wait until Adam Empire posts something if he does. His zombie posts are brilliant  Thanks all the same though 

[Rearden Metal]

It's weird how some people say his physique is the most complete and asthetic out there today...and at the same time others come out and say he looks totally off -- like paco or atwood.

Seems like these guys have a bone to pick, nothing less. Their "his body is a mess" attitude has no basis in reality.

I have no bone to pic with Mustafa, I just think his aesthetics are not pleasing. He surely carries a lot of muscle, but it is not dense or conditioned, and in some instances, his mass is misplaced.

For example, his quads are bottom heavy, and lack striations. Yes they are enormous.

Also, he has poor seperation between muscle groups.

I don't think he's as disjointed as Paco, or as structurally poor as Atwood, but i don't think he is anywhere near "complete and aesthetic"

Comparing him to Cutler, as consistent a competitor as there is, is foolish. Cutler blows him away in every way concievable.

[Mr.Hutch]

Mustafa is in my top 5..the man gets no respect...

[sarcasm]

Mustafa is huge no doubt about it, very underrated.

[Mr.Hutch]

He's actually fairly popular. Just not noisy (as in posting a zillion pics of himself...ala James, or at shows...ala Gustavo), so gets overlooked. The TeamMustafa.com site gets between 1500-2000 page views each day on a regular basis. Nothing to sneeze at for just a cheezy fan site that's only been up a couple months.

he has a good fan base..but no repspect judging wise...I am gonna puke if I see him get another 11th place..

[Royalty]

Jays strengths are Mohammeds weaknesses. Mohammed has poor delts and his legs are too big for his upper body. he doesnt get shredded anymore. Jay is like 30lbs heavier too.


ps: the above pics are 3 years old

[Doublemonk]

Yeah, you know anyone talking about wide waist has to only look the the current Mr. O. for the prime example. Mustafa has no wide waist -- that's just a cute way of garnering anti-mustafa hype.

But he has wide hips.
It's pretty sad that almost no one has an unbiased/neutral opinion about his physique. There are people that say that he sucks and is a total mess. On the other hand there are people like you that just don't see his weaknesses and act like he is the best and get judged unfair at any competition he enters.

[Wombat]

But he has wide hips.
It's pretty sad that almost no one has an unbiased/neutral opinion about his physique. There are people that say that he sucks and is a total mess. On the other hand there are people like you that just don't see his weaknesses and act like he is the best and get judged unfair at any competition he enters.

Not only does he have wide hips which can only be fixed by having a massively wide back(which he does not have), his ass is 3 axe handles wide....

Take a look at the photos....Mustafa from the side looks amazing....His lower body from the side makes cutlers look small(which it isn't) but take a really good look at the side shot...And look at the size of Mustafa's glutes...They look almost double the size of Cutlers and guess what....Cutler has some of the biggest glutes in the game....its just Cutlers back is one of the widest, it offsets it.....This is where Mustafa runs into problems...As soon as they quarter turn to the back, Mustafa's glute/hip ratio makes mustafa's back look narrow...(and its not)

[Stavios]

Ok I'll speak the truth for all you Mustafa's nut hugger
Mustafa has never been screwed except for the 2003 GP.
He is always out of shape so he gets what he deserve. He is lazy since he doesn't do his cardio !

That being said he had an incredible physique and a ripped to the bones mustafa could place top 3 at the O

he has a wide waist but it doesn't look that bad. It only looks really wide in his ugly ass pose with the arms up on each side..... you know wich pose I mean

[Crusher]

Mustafa is an excellent poser and knows how to present his physique minimising his strong points and maximising his strengths.  He has a ton of muscle on his frame.  I think it would flow better if he could ever finally dry himself out.  He is definitely Olympia material.

[TheGoldenPrince]

A guy with such a stereotype arabic face and arabic name like Mustafa won't EVER be crowned Mr.O, just forget about it.

Fantastic physique though.

[IFBBwannaB]

Yeah, you know anyone talking about wide waist has to only look the the current Mr. O. for the prime example. Mustafa has no wide waist -- that's just a cute way of garnering anti-mustafa hype.

Have you checked the video I told you about?
He got plenty of waist,beside he is never lean enough.Cutler is always in good condition.
So before you even start to compare structures he first need to come in ripped,something he never did.

BTW that show is his best showing ever.