Legendary? Biggest Natural? Get a grip on reality...see this...

[donrhummy]

OK, TA, here's your comparison...Not much advancement in 102 years...

[texasRUSH]

okay i have a question...

why would anyone go into an OPEN contest and bitch because they lost to a juicer?


 

[no one]

true ethiopean...

seriously, why are you so proud of being natural when you look like shit?

your body is like the car a 16 year old kid buys and tricks out with plastic chrome rims, 5- 10 inch subs, tints the windows and proceeds to roll out like 'Luda. and despite the fact its a rusty piece of shit he thinks he's the coolest kid on the block.

other looking at that kid just shake thier head and think...' wow what a loser...'

much in the same manner the whole internet community looks at you.

just thought you should know.

no need to thank me.

[The True Adonis]

true ethiopean...

seriously, why are you so proud of being natural when you look like shit?

your body is like the car a 16 year old kid buys and tricks out with plastic chrome rims, 5- 10 inch subs, tints the windows and proceeds to roll out like 'Luda. and despite the fact its a rusty piece of shit he thinks he's the coolest kid on the block.

other looking at that kid just shake thier head and think...' wow what a loser...'

much in the same manner the whole internet community looks at you.

just thought you should know.

no need to thank me.

Run along back to mayhem Massive G.

[Van_Bilderass]

Legit question. I know he's been training fairly light since he was 14 years old, and only in the last 12 months or so have started to up the load.

IMO, this shows what someone with great genetics can achieve in powerlifting. Why would bodybuilding be much different? However, I don't believe you will reach your peak as a natural in either powerlifting or bodybuilding before 43-46 years of age.

It takes much longer time. And the muscle mass will obviously never be of the same proportions. But I'm sure it could be bigger than what many believe is possible.

A 6 feet tall guy weighing contest shape 230 lbs? Definitely possible IMO.

YIP
Zack

Hedge, how is the doping situation among the elite powerlifters in Sweden really? I'm in Sweden also and a few years ago I trained and spoke with a few PLers and they said there was a lot of steroid use in the sport. They also claimed some of the best lifters were "protected", they made sure somehow that they weren't tested during certain periods etc. Is there this type of corruption today? Are you personally certain that this kid for example never used any steroids?

[Miss Demeanor]

There you go. What do you have to say about that?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=93110.msg1343185#msg1343185

Interesting.  Myseone said...

At a height of just under 5'11" I have achieved a build of 210lbs, single digit body fat, without drugs (I have been clean for about 10 years, with drugs up to 230lbs single digits). My body weight now fluctuates between 200 and 210, and still single digits are held.

and...

Concerning the strength I'm always strong, and have always been strong, and have lifted all the weights I posted clean. With the drugs I was a lot stronger, but I did'nt want to get ill and sick from D-bol or sus, so i stopped.

That proves my earlier point very nicely.  I said:  "...the most pertinent question would be, how long has Myseone been clean (if he ever has used; I don't know him)?  If it's a long time, whether he used or not shouldn't matter."

He has been off drugs for 10 years.  Therefore, steroids are a non-factor in his current build and strength.  You can poopoo him for not being a lifetime natural but that's just semantic nitpicking.  What he has today is purely his.  Zack is right to regard him as an awesome natural bodybuilder.

[Hedgehog]

Hedge, how is the doping situation among the elite powerlifters in Sweden really? I'm in Sweden also and a few years ago I trained and spoke with a few PLers and they said there was a lot of steroid use in the sport. They also claimed some of the best lifters were "protected", they made sure somehow that they weren't tested during certain periods etc. Is there this type of corruption today? Are you personally certain that this kid for example never used any steroids?

Legit question.

Regarding this kid, I'm as certain as can be. I believe there may be a economic liability, if a powerlifter gets caught.


IMO, since the end of the 90's, most top lifters in Sweden are truly lifetime natural.

Certain lifters have been caught over the years, and last year the biggest name in Swedish powerlifting was caught. A fatal blow.

But I still believe that he was a bad seed, and that powerlifters that represent Sweden internationally these days are natural.

Back in the 80's however, it was fcuking crazy.


YIP
Zack

[onlyme]

At 6' I was 247 total natural in 1980 or so.  Only protein and allot of liver tabs.

[gibberj2]

how much bodyfat % ? 

[alexxx]

At 6'3" 1/2 and 241 pounds I was completely natural!

[fathead]

biggest natural is like saying smartest retard

[dodger]

Hey almost 6'0 and 294,no drugs in my life and with 21' and 20' guns and strong as fuck(well used to be)4 fucked up joints,but hey,BIG DEAL!

[gibberj2]

who cares about weight? fat doesn't count anyway.