go look at the comparisons.....ronnie is fucked up this year really bad. his back is horribly lopsided, his stomach is disgustingly distended, his legs have no cuts and looked deformed....hes just a big mess. he looks great in one pose: front double biceps. thats it.
jays mid section looks like it got hit by a big-rig, his back is overwhelmingly top heavy, has loose skin folds chilling on the lower back as well. plus his arms are smooth and he has no taper.
...just go look at the comparisons and you will see.