In that shot above, there is NO separation detail in the arm...you can hardly see the brachiallis...the rest of the arms are smooth, my side arm has more detail and i didn't even win the nationals...Also, I can not even see any remote idea that a sartorious muscle is suppossed to be PROMENANT in the inner quad. Jay is good and in the top of the world, but needs to approach his training much different to get the neccesarry improvements. Hate all you want, MAX, but that's straight from the real deal..and it's true!