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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2024, 05:38:56 PM »
hey thanks for getting back to me i appreciate ,so in your opinion do you think 250 a week of test cyp is to much

Too much to be considered therapeutic or TRT, but not high enough for bodybuilding. I even micro dose the 100mgs meaning 50mgs Monday Thursday, subcut but I am now at an age where i only do want nothing more than TRT, that dose for me would be too much, but everyones different, I have always been a hyper responder so 100mgs works well, for others they feel nothing at that dose, but TRT is that TRT shouldn't feel like a cycle, and for me at that dose it doesn't. If I run that amount I will put on a few pounds and my body will be less forgiving with carb intake

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2024, 05:58:18 PM »
Too much to be considered therapeutic or TRT, but not high enough for bodybuilding. I even micro dose the 100mgs meaning 50mgs Monday Thursday, subcut but I am now at an age where i only do want nothing more than TRT, that dose for me would be too much, but everyones different, I have always been a hyper responder so 100mgs works well, for others they feel nothing at that dose, but TRT is that TRT shouldn't feel like a cycle, and for me at that dose it doesn't. If I run that amount I will put on a few pounds and my body will be less forgiving with carb intake

agreed

some of these shitstains try and say 200 is trt

GET DA FUCK OUTTA HERE WIT DAT SHIT

my total test was 2887 om 250 mgs and it was test 4 days post 125 inject as i shot 125 twice a week like you brother

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2024, 08:17:59 PM »
Too much to be considered therapeutic or TRT, but not high enough for bodybuilding. I even micro dose the 100mgs meaning 50mgs Monday Thursday, subcut but I am now at an age where i only do want nothing more than TRT, that dose for me would be too much, but everyones different, I have always been a hyper responder so 100mgs works well, for others they feel nothing at that dose, but TRT is that TRT shouldn't feel like a cycle, and for me at that dose it doesn't. If I run that amount I will put on a few pounds and my body will be less forgiving with carb intake

There's this trend of doing 10mg of test e once daily subq at night, because it peaks in 12 hours. Users claim high normal levels, a few a thousand or even a little over. If I was looking for true physiological TRT I might do this, just 1/20 of a cc popped into the belly with an insulin syringe.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2024, 10:39:18 PM »
gonna go head and up the drol to 75 mgs

got pecs and tris and i just fucking know ima gonna CRUSH DAT SHIT

increased reps and loads on every fucking movement

FUCK YEAH!!!!

gonna keep upping the dose by 25 mgs every 4 days til i'm running 150 mgs on the daily

Come on man, go slooow  :D

It probably will expand your waist, not that that is a real problem as it just swells temporarily for some reason but you're not gonna like it  :D

I don't give a fuck about my big belly (well I do care a bit tbh) so if I had Anadrol now I would do 150mg 3-4 hours preworkout. I just want to blow back up quickly after many months only training a few sets once a week (health issues). Gonna go 3-4 days per week now that I bought a membership at a nice gym just 200 meters from my apartment.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2024, 10:46:27 PM »
Come on man, go slooow  :D

It probably will expand your waist, not that that is a real problem as it just swells temporarily for some reason but you're not gonna like it  :D

I don't give a fuck about my big belly (well I do care a bit tbh) so if I had Anadrol now I would do 150mg 3-4 hours preworkout. I just want to blow back up quickly after many months only training a few sets once a week (health issues). Gonna go 3-4 days per week now that I bought a membership at a nice gym just 200 meters from my apartment.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2024, 11:59:16 PM »
Anadrol was next level to anything else I ever used, only thing is my red blood cell count went sky high, but I could change my bodies entire look in 4-6 weeks on 1-2 tabs a day, I only ever used it precontest and after I dropped my test 6  weeks out, I can't tolerate prop or suspension so I used that instead to keep me  full when I went full fast acting anabolic last 4-6 weeks.

But even 1 tab a day by itself worked great for me, but it can't be regarded as anti ageing its not, its as hard on the body as tren or more IMO.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2024, 12:27:24 AM »
Anadrol was next level to anything else I ever used, only thing is my red blood cell count went sky high, but I could change my bodies entire look in 4-6 weeks on 1-2 tabs a day, I only ever used it precontest and after I dropped my test 6  weeks out, I can't tolerate prop or suspension so I used that instead to keep me  full when I went full fast acting anabolic last 4-6 weeks.

But even 1 tab a day by itself worked great for me, but it can't be regarded as anti ageing its not, its as hard on the body as tren or more IMO.
Definitely not for an older guy. Blood pressure would go through the roof.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2024, 12:36:13 AM »
Definitely not for an older guy. Blood pressure would go through the roof.

I agree I would never use it unless I was competing and young, its not worth it, the best thing about being in the gym is doing it for life, having the gym cardio and basic diet in your daily routine can set you up for a good life.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2024, 12:44:31 AM »
Definitely not for an older guy. Blood pressure would go through the roof.

that's what telemasartin is for ;)

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #84 on: April 03, 2024, 12:47:24 AM »
that's what telemasartin is for ;)
True, other drugs can always be used.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #85 on: April 03, 2024, 01:13:33 AM »
Anadrol was next level to anything else I ever used, only thing is my red blood cell count went sky high, but I could change my bodies entire look in 4-6 weeks on 1-2 tabs a day, I only ever used it precontest and after I dropped my test 6  weeks out, I can't tolerate prop or suspension so I used that instead to keep me  full when I went full fast acting anabolic last 4-6 weeks.

But even 1 tab a day by itself worked great for me, but it can't be regarded as anti ageing its not, its as hard on the body as tren or more IMO.

Just one tab works "miracles" lol. It can be surprisingly gentle on blood work. Of course BP should always be priority. But it doesn't touch my liver values much at all. One member on another site says he's done 100mg for 25 years straight and labs were good. I've done a couple of one year cycles, probably not smart, but labs were good.

Older people might tolerate it pretty well at 50mg a day. Here 65-80 year olds.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12388137/

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2024, 05:40:20 PM »
Just one tab works "miracles" lol. It can be surprisingly gentle on blood work. Of course BP should always be priority. But it doesn't touch my liver values much at all. One member on another site says he's done 100mg for 25 years straight and labs were good. I've done a couple of one year cycles, probably not smart, but labs were good.

Older people might tolerate it pretty well at 50mg a day. Here 65-80 year olds.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12388137/

In my won experience Only drug that I could visibly get bigger and harder day to day, but at the same time absolutely killed off my HDL and pushed up my hemocrit, BP I can't recall as being to bad, massive loss of appetite which always to me meant liver was struggling and liver function test from memory was abnormal. I never went above 2 or 100mgs per day, but I used proper Anapolan 50 back in then day, haven't touched it in 20 years, could only see the value in it contest wise due to the sides.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2024, 10:20:59 PM »
In my won experience Only drug that I could visibly get bigger and harder day to day, but at the same time absolutely killed off my HDL and pushed up my hemocrit, BP I can't recall as being to bad, massive loss of appetite which always to me meant liver was struggling and liver function test from memory was abnormal. I never went above 2 or 100mgs per day, but I used proper Anapolan 50 back in then day, haven't touched it in 20 years, could only see the value in it contest wise due to the sides.

Appetite loss might not have to do with liver tox as it can come on from the very first pill, but yes that's a major complaint. I have used plenty of Anapolon but guys here say it's shit compared to the American Anadrol, I think the Anadrol was followed by 4 numbers? I'm not sure if Anapolon was restricted in Turkey or not but I've seen it recently. My favorite was this China generic. Still good many years after expiring.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2024, 12:15:42 AM »
If you cant eat you cant grow.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2024, 12:46:50 AM »
Appetite loss might not have to do with liver tox as it can come on from the very first pill, but yes that's a major complaint. I have used plenty of Anapolon but guys here say it's shit compared to the American Anadrol, I think the Anadrol was followed by 4 numbers? I'm not sure if Anapolon was restricted in Turkey or not but I've seen it recently. My favorite was this China generic. Still good many years after expiring.

Never had any loss of apetite with dbol or drop,I did have nosebleeds but no high BP....Probably related to something else like high red blood cell count.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #90 on: April 04, 2024, 07:27:15 AM »
Never had any loss of apetite with dbol or drop,I did have nosebleeds but no high BP....Probably related to something else like high red blood cell count.

I've only had a few serious nosebleeds in my life but every time Anadrol was involved. My RBCs have never been out of range on anything. I'm going to ask a Q, in the off chance someone knows. I have low iron levels but RBCs and hemoglobin are normal. Do steroids lower iron levels? Someone speculated that on steroids the body uses more iron for erythropoiesis so it could be low because of that. Just now my doc wants to check I'm not bleeding internally, but I've had low iron several times in the past 4-5 years, have gotten a few bags infused.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #91 on: April 04, 2024, 11:54:05 AM »
In the 80's bodybuilders found out that vet drugs weren't regulated and they got giant vials of Winstrol V and Equipose meant for horses. It was cheap and the giant containers lasted forever. 

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #92 on: April 04, 2024, 12:01:27 PM »
Anadrol was next level to anything else I ever used, only thing is my red blood cell count went sky high, but I could change my bodies entire look in 4-6 weeks on 1-2 tabs a day, I only ever used it precontest and after I dropped my test 6  weeks out, I can't tolerate prop or suspension so I used that instead to keep me  full when I went full fast acting anabolic last 4-6 weeks.

But even 1 tab a day by itself worked great for me, but it can't be regarded as anti ageing its not, its as hard on the body as tren or more IMO.

Anadrol 50 was sick strong. It was a favorite of Viator's training partner so maybe we could assume he used it. Yes, one a day made drastic changes. Two was pushing it. Guys that used three started to get yellow eyes. Now I know many today take it and it's not made in American pharmaceutical labs anymore I assume. I bet the stuff they are buying out of the trunk of some scum bag's trunk in the gym parking lot isn't even remotely as powerful as the original and is counterfeit. In the early 80's some had a fear of Anadrol 50 because of how quick and drastic the changes were. I hear guys say I don't know what I'm talking about cause they pop five a day and see mild changes. In no way in hell is that the original Anadrol 50.  The most powerful anabolic pill ever made.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #93 on: April 04, 2024, 06:48:56 PM »
Anadrol 50 was sick strong. It was a favorite of Viator's training partner so maybe we could assume he used it. Yes, one a day made drastic changes. Two was pushing it. Guys that used three started to get yellow eyes. Now I know many today take it and it's not made in American pharmaceutical labs anymore I assume. I bet the stuff they are buying out of the trunk of some scum bag's trunk in the gym parking lot isn't even remotely as powerful as the original and is counterfeit. In the early 80's some had a fear of Anadrol 50 because of how quick and drastic the changes were. I hear guys say I don't know what I'm talking about cause they pop five a day and see mild changes. In no way in hell is that the original Anadrol 50.  The most powerful anabolic pill ever made.

These are fairly tales.

Like people who say they blew up on 5mg of Dbol.

There is nothing special about the drugs of yesteryear, just a bunch of old stories that never die.

If anything the drugs today are more powerful.

Back when "3 tabs turned your eyes yellow", there were very sick CHILDREN taking over 600mg a day for months on end. And they are still alive today.

I've ran HG cycles for years with blood work to back it up, 100mg of Drol per day didn't even change my liver values in 6 months of taking it.

The pros of every era were massive drug abusers, it's human nature to push the limits.

People draw down the drugs because it was taboo, and people really want you to believe they are special and have incredible genetics, or they are selling you something, which all of them did to survive.

Also, vet AAS and human are made exactly the same way. There is no difference at all in the physiology of how steroids work. The only outlier is Tren pellets.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #94 on: April 04, 2024, 06:58:22 PM »
These are fairly tales.

Like people who say they blew up on 5mg of Dbol.

There is nothing special about the drugs of yesteryear, just a bunch of old stories that never die.

If anything the drugs today are more powerful.

Back when "3 tabs turned your eyes yellow", there were very sick CHILDREN taking over 600mg a day for months on end. And they are still alive today.

I've ran HG cycles for years with blood work to back it up, 100mg of Drol per day didn't even change my liver values in 6 months of taking it.

The pros of every era were massive drug abusers, it's human nature to push the limits.

People draw down the drugs because it was taboo, and people really want you to believe they are special and have incredible genetics, or they are selling you something, which all of them did to survive.

Also, vet AAS and human are made exactly the same way. There is no difference at all in the physiology of how steroids work. The only outlier is Tren pellets.

5MG of Dbol was nothing compared to Anadrol 50. You don't know what you are talking about.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #95 on: April 04, 2024, 11:00:15 PM »
5MG of Dbol was nothing compared to Anadrol 50. You don't know what you are talking about.

Chris Cormier said he blew up 5lbs on one single 5mg pharma dbol lol.

Do you think they used real Anadrol in this US study from 2003? I don't know your exact age but here old people gained like 6lbs in 3 months on either 50 or 100mg. Not earth shattering but good at that age, on REAL Anadrol. I always say as young we all responded better, but our minds want to make it more than it was, and the "blowing up" was more modest that recalled.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12388137/
 
My brother took 15 5mg Russian dbol, one a day, and gained like 12lbs. He was 14 :D
He blew up but was still a rail thin fella  :D
I look at pics from 30 years ago from local contests and no one looked anything special, could have easily claimed natural

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #96 on: April 04, 2024, 11:58:38 PM »
These are fairly tales.

Like people who say they blew up on 5mg of Dbol.

There is nothing special about the drugs of yesteryear, just a bunch of old stories that never die.

If anything the drugs today are more powerful.

Back when "3 tabs turned your eyes yellow", there were very sick CHILDREN taking over 600mg a day for months on end. And they are still alive today.

I've ran HG cycles for years with blood work to back it up, 100mg of Drol per day didn't even change my liver values in 6 months of taking it.

The pros of every era were massive drug abusers, it's human nature to push the limits.

People draw down the drugs because it was taboo, and people really want you to believe they are special and have incredible genetics, or they are selling you something, which all of them did to survive.

Also, vet AAS and human are made exactly the same way. There is no difference at all in the physiology of how steroids work. The only outlier is Tren pellets.
Yeah, but the children were sick, not already healthy and stacking other drugs.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #97 on: April 05, 2024, 12:06:31 AM »
I gained water bloat and a big pump from Dbol,could never use pre contest, so never used much as I avoided oral use off season,  Anadrol never really gained much or any weight, but my physique changed overnight to full vascular and hard. Always used it pre contest after dropping test, but even if I took it now it won't change me weight wise but will change apperence quicker than anything else.

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2024, 02:20:20 AM »
I gained water bloat and a big pump from Dbol,could never use pre contest, so never used much as I avoided oral use off season,  Anadrol never really gained much or any weight, but my physique changed overnight to full vascular and hard. Always used it pre contest after dropping test, but even if I took it now it won't change me weight wise but will change apperence quicker than anything else.

so you didn't gain any size from it?

i've already added a full 1/2 inch onto each arm in only 6 days :D :D :D

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Re: 70s roid cycles of the top pros
« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2024, 06:12:17 AM »
so you didn't gain any size from it?

i've already added a full 1/2 inch onto each arm in only 6 days :D :D :D
which will be gone 2 weeks after you stop taking it.