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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #600 on: August 03, 2019, 09:17:59 AM »
I saw a car yesterday with a couple Beto 2020 stickers on it.

I didn't even know such things existed.

I was just thinking, I know the Democrat lineup is pretty underwhelming this cycle but out of all the candidates available you picked THAT guy??

Saw a beat up pick up truck with all kinds of liberal, tree hugger stickers on it a few months ago.

Beto sticker on there too.

Early adopters.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #601 on: August 03, 2019, 09:22:24 AM »
Let's just go with

President Buttplug

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #602 on: August 03, 2019, 01:01:23 PM »
Let's just go with

President Buttplug

Butt-man actually seems one of the sanest of the bunch.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #603 on: August 03, 2019, 02:48:41 PM »
Tushi Grabber's family is conservative and she's a vet. The dems think she's a plant that only runs as dem because in Hawaii there isn't an option to run GOP.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #604 on: August 03, 2019, 05:42:32 PM »
Tushi Grabber's family is conservative and she's a vet. The dems think she's a plant that only runs as dem because in Hawaii there isn't an option to run GOP.

She has a brain and somewhat sensible.   The rest are a bunch of psychotics

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #605 on: August 05, 2019, 07:31:54 AM »
Butt-man actually seems one of the sanest of the bunch.

Minorities can't get behind him.  The majority despise butt-men.  It's just part of their culture.  Yet it's the liberal left that call for multiculturalism. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #606 on: August 05, 2019, 04:14:54 PM »
She has a brain and somewhat sensible.   The rest are a bunch of psychotics

Yang is pretty sensible as well.

I don't like a lot of his policies, but he's really smart, and means well.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #607 on: August 07, 2019, 01:29:42 PM »
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years ::)

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #608 on: August 07, 2019, 02:04:15 PM »
Yang is pretty sensible as well.

I don't like a lot of his policies, but he's really smart, and means well.


The guy that said we need to run to the hills because of rising seas? That guy? HAHAHAHA

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #609 on: August 07, 2019, 09:45:38 PM »
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years ::)



About as well as I never imagined we'd elect Trump.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #610 on: August 08, 2019, 04:45:16 AM »

The guy that said we need to run to the hills because of rising seas? That guy? HAHAHAHA
My impression on both of them is that they are still wacky with a lot of their policies/ideas but they are sensible in that they don't want to essentially completely shut down talk on the other side like the others.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #611 on: August 08, 2019, 07:02:25 AM »
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years ::)



She copied that from Barry Obama

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #612 on: August 08, 2019, 08:23:53 AM »
Can you imagine having that damn finger pointing at you for 4 years ::)














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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #613 on: August 08, 2019, 11:51:27 AM »
Interesting read and the similarities between the parties and circumstances are there although I think Kerry was a stronger candidate than Biden and Trump is a stronger candidate than 2004 Bush.

Will 2020 Be a Repeat of 2004 for Democrats?

By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
August 8, 2019 6:30 AM



https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/will-2020-election-be-repeat-of-2004-for-democrats/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #614 on: August 08, 2019, 02:55:08 PM »
It's hard to tell if Biden is weaker than Kerry or if his party has gone so radical that he doesn't even fit in. In that respect Kerry was a stronger candidate because the party and his line were the same.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #615 on: August 09, 2019, 07:21:08 AM »
It's hard to tell if Biden is weaker than Kerry or if his party has gone so radical that he doesn't even fit in. In that respect Kerry was a stronger candidate because the party and his line were the same.

I think a little bit of both.

The Biden of 2012 who took on Paul Ryan would be the stronger candidate of the two imo. Biden had that blue collar, rust belt swag versus the sort of snooty, aristocratic feel of John Kerry.

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is Biden's age and the effects it has had on him in the last handful of years. He fumbles his words much more now and at times has been completely incoherent. I just don't see Biden performing nearly as well on stage in 2020 as Kerry in 2004.

And the crazed left wing of the party is coming at him like punches in a bar room brawl, from all directions and he just isn't able to defend himself very well. You go to alot of the bigger progressive outlets and they shit on Biden almost as much as Trump.

That being said he STILL has a massive advantage with the support of moderate Democrats and with Iowa and South Carolina being very early states. He wins those 2 and he will be extremely hard to stop. Kamala's recent failures in the last debate could prove to be a boon for him as well.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #616 on: August 09, 2019, 10:08:28 AM »
Interesting read and the similarities between the parties and circumstances are there although I think Kerry was a stronger candidate than Biden and Trump is a stronger candidate than 2004 Bush.

Will 2020 Be a Repeat of 2004 for Democrats?

By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
August 8, 2019 6:30 AM



https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/will-2020-election-be-repeat-of-2004-for-democrats/

Pathetic:  "Something similar is shaping up for the Democrats in 2020. The 20-candidate field is larger than it was in 2004 — and even weirder. Fifteen of the 20 are polling at under 5 percent."

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #617 on: August 09, 2019, 10:38:09 AM »
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #618 on: August 09, 2019, 11:23:23 AM »
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?

By their own (lack of) standards, they can't.  Everyone "wins".

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #619 on: August 09, 2019, 11:35:38 AM »
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?

Only 8 Candidates Have Qualified for the Next Democratic Debate
While 20 presidential candidates debated this past week, far fewer are assured the chance of doing so again in September.
By Maggie Astor
Aug. 1, 2019

[Update: Andrew Yang has qualified for the next Democratic presidential debate, widening the field to nine.]

So you made it through the second set of Democratic debates. Congratulations! Ready to talk about the next ones?

The Democratic National Committee has set stricter criteria for the third set of debates, which will be held on Sept. 12 and Sept. 13 in Houston. If 10 or fewer candidates qualify, the debate will take place on only one night.

Candidates will need to have 130,000 unique donors and register at least 2 percent support in four polls. They have until Aug. 28 to reach those benchmarks.

A spotlight on the people reshaping our politics. A conversation with voters across the country. And a guiding hand through the endless news cycle, telling you what you really need to know.

These criteria could easily halve the field: The first two sets of debates included 20 of the 24 candidates, but a New York Times analysis of polls and donor numbers shows that only 10 to 12 candidates are likely to make the third round.

Eight candidates have already met both qualification thresholds and are guaranteed a spot onstage. They are:

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey

Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind.

Senator Kamala Harris of California

Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota

Former Representative Beto O’Rourke of Texas

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

Ms. Klobuchar’s campaign announced on Friday that she had exceeded the required number of donors in the days following the debate. She had already met the polling threshold.

Two other candidates are very close: The former housing secretary Julián Castro and the entrepreneur Andrew Yang have surpassed 130,000 donors and each have three of the four qualifying polls they need. Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii has also crossed the 130,000-donor mark, her campaign said Friday, but she has only one qualifying poll so far.

Beyond them, only two candidates have even a single qualifying poll to their name: the impeachment activist Tom Steyer (two polls) and former Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado (one).

We asked their campaigns to provide donor numbers so we could assess where they stood. A spokesman for Mr. Steyer said he was “on track to collect the required number of donors to make the September debate stage” but did not give a number. Mr. Hickenlooper’s campaign did not respond, but Politico reported a month ago that he had only 13,000 donors.

The other 11 candidates in the race have no qualifying polls to their name, and they all went into this week’s debates seeking a viral moment that would attract new donors and lift them, even briefly, in the polls.

The qualification rules do not require enduring support. Even a small post-debate surge could push a 1 percent candidate up to 2 percent in the small handful of polls he or she needs.

But for those who have not qualified, the Aug. 28 deadline is an existential threat. Candidates like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York or Gov. Jay Inslee of Washington could be washed out of the race if they don’t get momentum from this week’s debates. And if you’re wondering whether they’re anxious, the answer is yes.

Ms. Gabbard’s campaign calculated at one point that she needed a new donor every minute to reach 130,000 by the Aug. 28 deadline. Visitors to her website saw a timer next to the donation button that began counting down 60 seconds. Then the text changed.

“🙁 Oh no!” it said. “The time expired and you didn’t donate!”

It must have been effective. Ms. Gabbard now has more than 145,000 donors, her campaign said Friday night.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/politics/next-democratic-debate.html

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #620 on: August 09, 2019, 01:40:12 PM »
How do they determine who qualifies for next round of debates?

There are much stricter qualifications for next September's Democratic Presidential debates. Here's the criteria to qualify:

Candidates must meet both a polling and donor threshold: At least 2 percent in four national DNC-approved polls and at least 130,000 unique donors, coming from at least 400 unique donors in 20 or more states. The deadline to reach the qualifications for the September debate is August 28. (For anyone closely following along at home, those are double the 1 percent polling threshold and a 65,000 donor minimum from the past two rounds, when candidates only had to clear one of the two bars.)

Biden remains the front runner in the polls.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #621 on: August 09, 2019, 01:44:13 PM »
Latest Biden blunder: ‘Poor kids’ are just as bright as ‘white kids'

Gaffe-prone presidential hopeful Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth during an Iowa campaign stop on Thursday when he told a group of predominately Asian and Hispanic voters that “poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids.”

Biden committed the stunning blunder while speaking about education at a town hall with the Asian and Latino Coalition in Des Moines, where he’s campaigning and fundraising for the 2020 Democratic primary.

“We should challenge students in these schools and have advanced placement programs in these schools. We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor, you cannot do it,” Biden said at the event, according to video of his remarks.


“Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids,” he added.

Biden almost immediately went into damage control mode, quickly adding: “wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids, no I really mean it, but think how we think about it.”

But President Trump’s campaign quickly seized on the tongue slip, with his “rapid response director” Andrew Clark tweeting out a video clip of the remark.

“Yikes…have fun mitigating that one,” he tweeted.

Biden walked out of the Democratic primary debates last week red-faced after he accidentally told donors to “go to Joe 30330” when he meant to tell them to “text JOE to 30330″ to donate.

On Monday, the befuddled 76-year-old bungled the locations of the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings when he expressed sympathy for the “tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before.”

https://nypost.com/2019/08/08/latest-biden-blunder-poor-kids-are-just-as-bright-as-white-kids/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #622 on: August 09, 2019, 02:08:09 PM »
Biden = dementia.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #623 on: August 09, 2019, 02:24:07 PM »
Biden long since sold himself.  He is desperately trying to be relevant to his masters.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #624 on: August 09, 2019, 02:36:52 PM »
Biden = dementia.
Trump + tryrant

The only media allowed when he was recently in El Paso was the media representatives the White house brought with them on this visit. Victims of the shooting still in hospital, declined to be visited upon by Trump. Trump says he was warmly welcomed. Who's lying?

University Medical Center spokesman Ryan Mielke said the hospital had reached out to the Anchondo family and other discharged patients on Tuesday, the day before the president’s visit, after it became clear that none of the hospitalized shooting victims would meet him.

Trump took other thumbs-up photos at the hospital, too, the official said, noting that other such pictures have concerned White House aides who have encouraged him to strike a more empathetic tone.


August 8, 2019 Washington Post