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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #525 on: November 19, 2019, 10:49:23 AM »

It is interesting to me that some people support business owners that illegally discriminate against the LGBTQ community and other minority people, but they don't support people who legally are discriminate about which business they choose to support. -Seems hypocritical.



When did Chick-Fil-A start doing this? I am shocked! How are they still in business!? Please post some examples, Prime.

Yes, examples please. 

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #526 on: November 19, 2019, 10:51:24 AM »
Horrible decision.  Never cave to the mob.  The mob will never be satisfied until the person/business is destroyed.

Chick-fil-A will stop donating to the Salvation Army and Fellowship of Christian Athletes — and people are furious
Published: Nov 19, 2019
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/chick-fil-a-will-stop-donating-to-the-salvation-army-and-fellowship-of-christian-athletes-and-people-are-furious-2019-11-18

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #527 on: November 19, 2019, 10:54:53 AM »
Are the other examples not actual censorship? ???

Never rely on the Village Idiot to get the facts right.  She is always wrong.

Silverman was not fired but was taken off air because of his decision to move forward with appearing on a competing station over management's objections, Salem Media Group General Manager and VP Brian Taylor said late Sunday - a statement Silverman said he interprets as KNUS backtracking to avoid violating a contract that requires 30 days' notice before termination.

"We have never told Mr. Silverman the position to take on Trump and impeachment," Taylor said in an email to The Washington Post. "Our hosts have the freedom to express their opinions on current events based on their own personal conviction. That goes for all of our hosts, including Mr. Silverman. Any suggestion to the contrary is simply untrue."


Radio station disputes host's story of firing
Derek Hawkins, Kim Bellware and Hannah Knowles, The Washington Post
Published November 18, 2019
https://www.thehour.com/news/article/A-radio-host-who-has-been-critical-of-Trump-says-14842799.php

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #528 on: November 19, 2019, 12:11:32 PM »
Prime, how does Chick Fil-a discriminate against people?

The Chick-fil-A controversy stems from the millions of dollars the fast-food chain has donated to anti-LGBT and hate groups over the years, and to President Dan Cathy’s hostile remarks against marriage equality.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #529 on: November 19, 2019, 12:21:44 PM »
Never rely on the Village Idiot to get the facts right.  She is always wrong.

Silverman was not fired but was taken off air because of his decision to move forward with appearing on a competing station over management's objections, Salem Media Group General Manager and VP Brian Taylor said late Sunday - a statement Silverman said he interprets as KNUS backtracking to avoid violating a contract that requires 30 days' notice before termination.

"We have never told Mr. Silverman the position to take on Trump and impeachment," Taylor said in an email to The Washington Post. "Our hosts have the freedom to express their opinions on current events based on their own personal conviction. That goes for all of our hosts, including Mr. Silverman. Any suggestion to the contrary is simply untrue."


Radio station disputes host's story of firing
Derek Hawkins, Kim Bellware and Hannah Knowles, The Washington Post
Published November 18, 2019
https://www.thehour.com/news/article/A-radio-host-who-has-been-critical-of-Trump-says-14842799.php

Nice attempt and spin by you and CYA by the Salem Media Group General Manager

I'm sure many idiot such as yourself actually belive this

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #530 on: November 19, 2019, 12:21:58 PM »
When did Chick-Fil-A start doing this? I am shocked! How are they still in business!? Please post some examples, Prime.

Dan Cathy, Chick-fil-A's CEO, made comments in 2012 about the company's belief and support of the "the biblical definition of the family unit."

Keep in mind that I commented on the disparity between businesses discriminating against certain groups by refusing service and people boycotting certain businesses because of their views. Simply put. if a company can refuse to serve someone because they are gay, gay people should have the right to not patronize these companies. I'

That I've not eaten at Chick-fil-A has nothing to do with their views or supposedly former views on homosexuality. The only location near me is in Clackamas Promenade which is not a place where I have reason to go to.

In the latests news West Linn High School will reportedly allow the Chick-fil-A food truck to remain at the school's football games for the remainder of the season. IMO this is a good decision on the part of the school administration. Rather than staging a walkout in protest, students should express their views by not purchasing Chick-fil-A sandwiches. If the company has too little or no business, they'll leave of their own accord. It's a basic majority rules example.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #531 on: November 19, 2019, 12:28:57 PM »
Dan Cathy, Chick-fil-A's CEO, made comments in 2012 about the company's belief and support of the "the biblical definition of the family unit."

So he either has had a change of heart about his beliefs regarding LGBT or he has decided that he loves money more than his "god"

I wonder which one it is?

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #532 on: November 19, 2019, 12:42:15 PM »
So he either has had a change of heart about his beliefs regarding LGBT or he has decided that he loves money more than his "god"

I wonder which one it is?

I think you'd need to know him personally in order to determine this.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #533 on: November 19, 2019, 01:12:08 PM »
I think you'd need to know him personally in order to determine this.

not really

I think it's pretty obvious he's still a fundie but just cherishes money more than his religious beliefs


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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #534 on: November 19, 2019, 01:56:32 PM »
Dan Cathy, Chick-fil-A's CEO, made comments in 2012 about the company's belief and support of the "the biblical definition of the family unit."

Keep in mind that I commented on the disparity between businesses discriminating against certain groups by refusing service and people boycotting certain businesses because of their views. Simply put. if a company can refuse to serve someone because they are gay, gay people should have the right to not patronize these companies. I'

That I've not eaten at Chick-fil-A has nothing to do with their views or supposedly former views on homosexuality. The only location near me is in Clackamas Promenade which is not a place where I have reason to go to.

In the latests news West Linn High School will reportedly allow the Chick-fil-A food truck to remain at the school's football games for the remainder of the season. IMO this is a good decision on the part of the school administration. Rather than staging a walkout in protest, students should express their views by not purchasing Chick-fil-A sandwiches. If the company has too little or no business, they'll leave of their own accord. It's a basic majority rules example.

You cited no examples of the company "illegally discriminating against the LGBTQ community and other minority people."  This all boils down to the head of the company supporting traditional marriage.  Just like Obama, Hillary Clinton, most of the Democrat party, and the overwhelming majority of the country did till very recently. 

This "cancel culture" is terrible.  The left is as intolerant as Radical Islamists.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #535 on: November 19, 2019, 02:01:24 PM »
Horrible decision.  Never cave to the mob.  The mob will never be satisfied until the person/business is destroyed.

Chick-fil-A will stop donating to the Salvation Army and Fellowship of Christian Athletes — and people are furious
Published: Nov 19, 2019
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/chick-fil-a-will-stop-donating-to-the-salvation-army-and-fellowship-of-christian-athletes-and-people-are-furious-2019-11-18

And like I said . . .

LGBTQ groups still unhappy with Chick-fil-A: 'Further transparency is needed'
By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Tuesday, November 19, 2019

LGBTQ activists are still unhappy with Chick-fil-A after the fast-food chain announced Monday it was ending donations to The Salvation Army and other Christian charities following years of backlash.

Chick-fil-A caused a stir after announcing it would no longer donate to Fellowship of Christian Athletes, The Salvation Army or Paul Anderson Youth Homes following years of criticism for donating to faith-based groups that support traditional marriage. The move sparked the ire of conservatives, who accused the chicken chain of caving to the outrage mob, but it turns out liberals aren’t exactly satisfied with the news either.

“Chick-fil-A Still Isn’t LGBTQ-Friendly, Despite Pledge on Donations,” reads a headline by The Advocate magazine. “Remember, Chick-fil-A isn’t LGBTQ-friendly yet,” reads another by LGBTQ Nation.

The Human Rights Campaign, the largest LGBTQ advocacy group in the U.S., wants Chick-fil-A to update its corporate anti-discrimination policy to also include protections for people based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

“At HRC, we always encourage companies to ensure that their giving is in line with LGBTQ-inclusive values,” Beck Bailey, director of workplace equality at the HRC Foundation, told The Advocate. “And while this is an important step for Chick-fil-A, the company still does not have workplace protections and policies that are fully inclusive of LGBTQ people. We look forward to the day when Chick-fil-A’s commitment to welcoming all is reflected in their workplace policies and practices by including explicit sexual orientation and gender identity nondiscrimination protections.”

GLAAD expressed similar concerns, demanding that Chick-fil-A also “unequivocally speak out against the anti-LGBTQ reputation that their brand represents.”

“If Chick-Fil-A is serious about their pledge to stop holding hands with divisive anti-LGBTQ activists, then further transparency is needed regarding their deep ties to organizations like Focus on the Family, which exist purely to harm LGBTQ people and families,” GLAAD’s Drew Anderson said in a statement. “Chick-Fil-A investors, employees, and customers can greet today’s announcement with cautious optimism, but should remember that similar press statements were previously proven to be empty.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/19/lgbtq-groups-still-unhappy-with-chick-fil-a-furthe/

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #536 on: November 19, 2019, 03:52:00 PM »
not really

I think it's pretty obvious he's still a fundie but just cherishes money more than his religious beliefs



I don’t believe that to be true. I think he’s backing down to do damage control in the overly PC climate of today. He’s not discriminating against anybody. I believe he doesn’t want the backlash and is protecting the folks who own franchises.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #537 on: November 19, 2019, 04:13:45 PM »
You cited no examples of the company "illegally discriminating against the LGBTQ community and other minority people."  This all boils down to the head of the company supporting traditional marriage.  Just like Obama, Hillary Clinton, most of the Democrat party, and the overwhelming majority of the country did till very recently. 

This "cancel culture" is terrible.  The left is as intolerant as Radical Islamists.

So what? Do you often insert language which changes the meaning of what folks are discussing? As far as I know, nobody here has said anything about Chick-Fil-A doing anything illegal. -Not sure where you got that from, but you quoted it never-the-less. As far as I can see, all the company did was support some supposedly anti LGBTQ charities/organizations. Something that some people seem to have a hard time forgetting about.  There's nothing illegal in that. Also, this conversation is about Chick-Fil-A and not the Democratic party, Clinton or Obama.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #538 on: November 19, 2019, 05:07:17 PM »
So what? Do you often insert language which changes the meaning of what folks are discussing? As far as I know, nobody here has said anything about Chick-Fil-A doing anything illegal. -Not sure where you got that from, but you quoted it never-the-less. As far as I can see, all the company did was support some supposedly anti LGBTQ charities/organizations. Something that some people seem to have a hard time forgetting about.  There's nothing illegal in that. Also, this conversation is about Chick-Fil-A and not the Democratic party, Clinton or Obama.

Bruh.  Seriously?  YOU said it. 


It is interesting to me that some people support business owners that illegally discriminate against the LGBTQ community and other minority people, but they don't support people who legally are discriminate about which business they choose to support. -Seems hypocritical.



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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #539 on: November 19, 2019, 05:44:51 PM »
The Chick-fil-A controversy stems from the millions of dollars the fast-food chain has donated to anti-LGBT and hate groups over the years, and to President Dan Cathy’s hostile remarks against marriage equality.
So if you don't support faggotry, that means you hate it ??? Saying a marriage is between a man and a woman is against marriage equality? Don't you whiny bitch ass liberals have anything better to do than nitpick for things to cry about? Really?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #540 on: November 19, 2019, 05:47:25 PM »
We live in a very soft society that can't discern what is important anymore. They keep the public docile with cheap food, cell phones, air conditioning and unlimited entertainment.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #541 on: November 19, 2019, 06:14:34 PM »
not really

I think it's pretty obvious he's still a fundie but just cherishes money more than his religious beliefs




I disagree. I have 3 Chick-Fil-A’s within 5 miles of my house. All, as well as all other Chick-fil-A’s have one common theme. They are all closed on Sundays. So if it’s about money and not religion, why close on the holy day? Sunday?

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #542 on: November 19, 2019, 06:29:36 PM »
We live in a very soft society that can't discern what is important anymore. They keep the public docile with cheap food, cell phones, air conditioning and unlimited entertainment.

Really?

Would you be comfortable with your 8 year old daughter sharing a bathroom with a 65 year old dude in a dress and a wig?

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #543 on: November 20, 2019, 07:22:38 AM »
Really?

Would you be comfortable with your 8 year old daughter sharing a bathroom with a 65 year old dude in a dress and a wig?


Where did you infer that from? And leave Mr. Prime outta this. ;D

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #544 on: November 20, 2019, 10:53:13 AM »

Where did you infer that from? And leave Mr. Prime outta this. ;D

I'm 75 years old, bald and wear pants. JPJ did leave me out of this.

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #545 on: December 05, 2019, 04:05:15 PM »
Turley: Democrats offering passion over proof in Trump impeachment
BY JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 12/05/19
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL
 
The most dangerous place for an academic is often between the House and the impeachment of an American president. I knew that going into the first hearing of the House Judiciary Committee on the impeachment of Donald Trump. After all, Alexander Hamilton that impeachment would often occur in an environment of “agitated passions.” Yet I remained a tad naive in hoping that an academic discussion on the history and standards of it might offer a brief hiatus from hateful rhetoric on both sides.

In my testimony Wednesday, I lamented that, as in the impeachment of President Clinton from 1998 to 1999, there is an intense “rancor and rage” and “stifling intolerance” that blinds people to opposing views. My call for greater civility and dialogue may have been the least successful argument I made to the committee. Before I finished my testimony, my home and office were inundated with threatening messages and demands that I be fired from George Washington University for arguing that, while a case for impeachment can be made, it has not been made on this record.

Some of the most heated attacks came from Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee. Representative Eric Swalwell of California attacked me for defending my client, Judge Thomas Porteous, in the last impeachment trial and noted that I lost that case. Swalwell pointed out that I said Porteous had not been charged with a crime for any conduct, which is an obviously material point for any impeachment defense.

Not all Democrats supported such scorched earth tactics. One senior Democrat on the committee apologized to me afterward for the attack from Swalwell. Yet many others relished seeing my representations of an accused federal judge being used to attack my credibility, even as they claimed to defend the rule of law. Indeed, Rachel Maddow lambasted me on MSNBC for defending the judge, who was accused but never charged with taking bribes, and referring to him as a “moocher” for the allegations that he accepted free lunches and whether such gratuities, which were not barred at the time, would constitute impeachable offenses.

Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank expanded on this theme of attacking my past argument. Despite 52 pages of my detailed testimony, more than twice the length of all the other witnesses combined, on the cases and history of impeachment, he described it as being “primarily emotional and political.” Milbank claimed that I contradicted my testimony in a 2013 hearing when I presented “exactly the opposite case against President Obama” by saying “it would be ‘very dangerous’ to the balance of powers not to hold Obama accountable for assuming powers ‘very similar’ to the ‘right of the king’ to essentially stand above the law.”

But I was not speaking of an impeachment then. It was a discussion of the separation of powers and the need for Congress to fight against unilateral executive actions, the very issue that Democrats raise against Trump. I did not call for Obama to be impeached, but that is par for the course in the echo chamber today in which the facts must conform to the frenzy. It was unsettling to see the embrace of a false narrative that I “contradicted” my testimony from the Clinton impeachment, a false narrative fueled by the concluding remarks of Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York quoting from my 1998 testimony. Notably, neither Swalwell nor Nadler allowed me to respond to those or any other attacks. It was then picked up eagerly by others, despite being a demonstrably false narrative.

In my testimony Wednesday, I stated repeatedly, as I did 21 years ago, that a president can be impeached for noncriminal acts, including abuse of power. I made that point no fewer that a dozen times in analyzing the case against Trump and, from the first day of the Ukraine scandal, I have made that argument both on air and in print. Yet various news publications still excitedly reported that, in an opinion piece I wrote for the Washington Post five years ago, I said, “While there is a high bar for what constitutes grounds for impeachment, an offense does not have to be indictable,” and it could include “serious misconduct or a violation of public trust.”

That is precisely what I have said regarding Trump. You just need to prove abuse of power. My objection is not that you cannot impeach Trump for abuse of power but that this record is comparably thin compared to past impeachments and contains conflicts, contradictions, and gaps including various witnesses not subpoenaed. I suggested that Democrats drop the arbitrary schedule of a vote by the end of December and complete their case and this record before voting on any articles of impeachment. In my view, they have not proven abuse of power in this incomplete record.

However, rather than address the specific concerns I raised over this incomplete record and process, critics have substituted a false attack to suggest that I had contradicted my earlier testimony during the Clinton impeachment. They reported breathlessly that I said in that hearing, “If you decide that certain acts do not rise to impeachable offenses, you will expand the space for executive conduct.” What they left out is that, in my testimony then and again this week, I stressed that the certain act in question was perjury. The issue in the Clinton case was whether perjury was an impeachable offense. Most Democratic members of Congress, including Nadler, maintained back then that perjury did not meet the level of an impeachable offense if the subject was an affair with an intern.

I maintained in the Clinton testimony, and still maintain in my Trump testimony, that perjury on any subject by a sitting president is clearly impeachable. Indeed, as I stated Wednesday, that is the contrast between this inquiry and three prior impeachment controversies. In those earlier inquiries, the commission of criminal acts by Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton were clearly established. With Johnson, the House effectively created a trapdoor crime and he knowingly jumped through it. The problem was that the law, the Tenure of Office Act, was presumptively unconstitutional and the impeachment was narrowly built around that dubious criminal act. With Nixon, there were a host of alleged criminal acts, and dozens of officials would be convicted. With Clinton, there was an act of perjury that even his supporters acknowledged was a felony.

While obviously presented in a false context, the quotation of my Clinton testimony only highlights the glaring contrast of those who opposed the Clinton impeachment but now insist the case is made to impeach Trump. I have maintained that they both could be removed, one for a crime and one for a noncrime. The difference is that the Clinton crime was accepted by Democrats. Indeed, a judge reaffirmed that Clinton committed perjury, a crime for which thousands of other citizens have been jailed. Yet the calls for showing that “no one is above the law” went silent with Clinton.

As I stated Wednesday, I believe the Clinton case is relevant today and my position remains the same. I do not believe a crime has been proven over the Ukraine controversy, though I said such crimes might be proven with a more thorough investigation. Instead, Democrats have argued that they do not actually have to prove the elements of crimes such as bribery and extortion to use those in drafting articles of impeachment. In the Clinton impeachment, the crime was clearly established and widely recognized.

As I said 21 years ago, a president can still be impeached for abuse of power without a crime, and that includes Trump. But that makes it more important to complete and strengthen the record of such an offense, as well as other possible offenses. I remain concerned that we are lowering impeachment standards to fit a paucity of evidence and an abundance of anger. Trump will not be our last president. What we leave in the wake of this scandal will shape our democracy for generations to come, and “agitated passions” will not be a substitute for proof in an impeachment. We currently have too much of the former and too little of the latter.

Jonathan Turley is the chair of public interest law at George Washington University and served as the last lead counsel in a Senate impeachment trial. He testified as a Republican witness in House Judiciary Committee hearing in the Trump impeachment inquiry. Follow him @JonathanTurley.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/473171-turley-democrats-offering-passion-over-proof-in-trump-impeachment

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #548 on: May 20, 2020, 01:47:41 PM »
Mika Brzezinski Demands Twitter Erase ‘Sick, Disgusting’ President Trump from Its Platform
ALLUM BOKHARI   20 May 2020
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/20/mika-brzezinski-demands-twitter-erase-sick-disgusting-president-trump-from-its-platform/

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #549 on: June 02, 2020, 06:39:30 AM »
Twitter temporarily suspends account of New York City police union which 'doxxed' Mayor de Blasio's daughter by posting her arrest report online
DM ^ | 6/2/2020 | By ARIEL ZILBER and EMILY CRANE and MEGAN SHEETS and SHAWN COHEN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
Posted on 6/2/2020, 7:27:36 AM by RummyChick

....The union justified its action by accusing de Blasio of failing to offer police officers the necessary support as they face off with protesters angry over the police-involving killing of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man, in Minneapolis last Monday.

‘How can the NYPD guard the metropolis of NY from rioting anarchist when the Mayors item throwing daughter is a person of them,’ the SBA tweeted on Sunday.

‘Now we know why he is forbidding Mounted models to be mobilized and maintaining the NYPD from undertaking their work opportunities.’

The tweet violated the rules of Twitter, which forbids its users from ‘doxxing.’

The union’s account was temporarily suspended, according to The New York Times.

The account was allowed to come back online after it agreed to delete the tweet about the mayor’s daughter....

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