We are not forcing you to follow what we believe, only advising. You on the other hand would if you could subjugate all religions regardless to be secular/atheist.
I wouldn't want to subjugate anyone. I believe that people need to make their own decisions. If their decision is to believe in a religion, that's fine by me, as long as they don't involve me.
You still don't know what 'freedom' is because if you think you are free think again. You are a slave to the capitalist work horse. You are a slave to television. You are a slave to the dollar. You are a slave to your desires.
Poetic words. There are some parallels, but equivocating them isn't accurate. Consider work, for example. Is it "slavery" to need to work? No I don't think so. If people didn't work, most of them would still need to, at a minimum, eat. Without money they'd have to either produce their own food or beg; both of those activities would them become, de facto work.
Freedom to do narcotic drugs, fornicate, abuse women left and right as disposables in one night stands, these are the freedoms you may enjoy. We don't see that as freedom but slavery in a different tone.
I guess I can sympathize, at least, partially with what you're saying. But in my view ones' freedom ends where anothers' begins. In other words, in my view you are free to engage in sexual relations with other
consenting adults, but you aren't "free" to rape them. But, ultimately, freedom means the freedom to do stupid things too.
Wrong but keep deluding yourself. You think America is the steping stone of freedom of speech or freedom of thought or freedom of expression? Look at television. It's quite the opposite.
The freedom of speech guaranteed to Americans under the Constitution doesn't mean that television stations are required to give everyone a platform. The Constitution binds the Government, not television stations. If Sean Hannity or Rachel Maddow want to promote only positions that agree with their viewpoint and suppress all other positions on their programs, that is between them and their employers.
No we are not ashamed of the human body, God is only glorified by his creation and the beauty of the human body. However as to not be wild animals, we believe in dignity of both men and women. All religious people of the past, be they jew or christian covered themselves and their heads. This is fact.
That something was done in the past doesn't mean it was a good idea or that it should be done in the future. I don't think that not wearing a hat, scarf or other head/face covering reduces people to animals, and you haven't proven that it does and I would argue that respect and honor are earned - not worn.
Modesty is something that the so called modern world lacks. You call it freedom when a woman is made a commodity on television, movies and media, basically a sexual object for perverse men, all eyes to see. We do not see eye to eye on this.
I'll agree with that as well, although I suspect that what you and I consider "acceptable" varies. But, the question that I have is this: if
you were in charge, would you
require that women cover up, or not wear, say, miniskirts, or tiny bikinis?
Our women cover themselves because they want their dignity, respect and honor. Not for their physical appearance, but for their faith and intellect.
I don't think you're qualified to speak for all Muslim women. At best, you're generalizing - something you attacked me for, allegedly, doing. Perhaps some women cover themselves by choice (whether their underlying reasons are religious or not) and that's perfectly fine. But do all Muslim women feel that way? It's exceedingly unlikely. And yet, in some societies today, no women go outside uncovered. Why? Because it is a crime to go outside of the house without being covered up. Do you think that it's reasonable to
force women to wear a veil or men to wear a beard?
Why do you not attack christian nuns or orthodox chritsians who cover their hair? Even Jewish women cover themselves traditional but israel is built upon secular ethnocentric values not judaism. Even hindu women cover their hair. Even sikhs cover their head. Even zoroastrians cover their hair. The list goes on.
Sure, there are many religions that would customarily cover their head. Does a supreme being - whether you call it Allah or God or whatever - really care whether you cover your head? Or whether you like bacon? These seem like awfully petty things, to me.
Nuns make a decision to become nuns. The same with Jewish men. I don't think Orthodox Christians cover their hair. In many cases, women in Muslim countries don't have the
choice. In Afghanistan, the hijab was mandatory and in Iran a headscarf is required when out in public and there are penalties for being outside without one. Would some of the Afghani and Iranian women choose to wear one even in the absence of laws requiring them to? Probably. But right now, they don't even have the
choice.
I don't object to people covering their hair or their faces. I object to people being
forced to do so, instead of choosing freely to do so.