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why should a law abiding citizen not be allowed to own an "assault rifle" and a "high capacity" magazine?
serious question for those in favor of "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazine ban
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Because "coexist."
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nobody that has been posting day in and day out about gun control has an answer for this?
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Because.
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nobody that has been posting day in and day out about gun control has an answer for this?
Don't worry, I'll wait.
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nobody that has been posting day in and day out about gun control has an answer for this?
There's not exactly a hoard here beating the drum daily for gun control. I think the majority here are pro gun/pro 2nd. There's maybe 3 or 4 and some of those clearly are not interested in answering so much as baiting, like blacken.
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Pro Gun Control advocates will eventually win...some states are adding ever more restrictions to the type and kind of firearms and magazine you can own. Smart gun control advocates attack the problem akin to the way they attacked cigarettes and Big Tobacco.......by it being a health issue.
Meanwhile, Pro-Gun advocates just scream and chant "get your hands off my guns." They do not advocate for change but take a hard line on an old way of thinking. Less and less percentage of Americans are nowadays owning guns and violent crime rates are falling (not having to do with another).
I am pro-gun....i own five firearms. Ive used one for work for many years and love going to the range. But...we are going to ultimately lose this debate. More gun control legislation will pass and will lead to outright bans. We cannot affect eventual change.
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why should a law abiding citizen not be allowed to own an "assault rifle" and a "high capacity" magazine?
serious question for those in favor of "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazine ban
Because they could be converted to airsoft rifles.
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There's not exactly a hoard here beating the drum daily for gun control. I think the majority here are pro gun/pro 2nd. There's maybe 3 or 4 and some of those clearly are not interested in answering so much as baiting, like blacken.
Yep. I don't see many advocating a stricter gun control measure.
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Because people love their toys.
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why should a law abiding citizen not be allowed to own an "assault rifle" and a "high capacity" magazine?
serious question for those in favor of "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazine ban
why shouldn't a law abiding citizen be able to own a grenade launcher
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there is no such thing as a assault rifle for civilians
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there is no such thing as a assault rifle for civilians
no shit
how many times has that been mentioned on this board
I wonder why Tony kept asking about it over and over again
he even put it in quotation marks but then he also put high capacity magazine in quotation marks and we know they exist.
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Its all about the lines isn't it?
We should be able to own guns, but what kind of guns?
Should we be able to own artillery? Grenades? Tanks? SAM's?
Should we be able to own .50 cal machine guns?
Fully automatic weapons?
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why shouldn't a law abiding citizen be able to own a grenade launcher
Sorry, but that's not an answer. It's a deflection. An attempt to change the conversation to a stupid irrelevant argument that you feel you have a better chance of winning. The OP posted a simple question and clearly none of you ban lovers can answer it because there is no good reason why they can't.
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;D Ok, I'll play the game:
Because if one of those "law Abiding" citizens mentally snap and decide to go on a killing spree they can do far more damage with an assault rifle and high capacity mags, then a bolt action rifle or 6 round revolver.
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Because they could be converted to airsoft rifles.
;D
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Its all about the lines isn't it?
We should be able to own guns, but what kind of guns?
Should we be able to own artillery? Grenades? Tanks? SAM's?
Should we be able to own .50 cal machine guns?
Fully automatic weapons?
How is an AR15 equivalent to a grenade or a tank? It shoots a very small bullet one at a time. It is not a machine gun. Maybe the feds should have machine guns, grenades and tanks but citizens should go back to using a bow and arrow.
The issue here should be what makes someone decide to kill a bunch of people. The tool that they choose to use should be irrelevant. Bombs are outlawed but yet a couple of nuts used them in Boston and killed people. If it isn't this weapon it will be that weapon. You shouldn't penalize the overwhelming majority of sane, responsible people because there are some nuts out there.
We are talking about people that are equipped to do other people harm. As a man with a dick, you are equipped to rape women. A lot more rapes happen every year then mass AR15 shootings. Should we start castrating all men? After all, they could snap and start raping women. If men didn't have cocks we could virtually eliminate rape.
The government can not protect you from all potential harm. A better choice would be to learn how to protect yourself.
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How is an AR15 equivalent to a grenade or a tank? It shoots a very small bullet one at a time. It is not a machine gun. Maybe the feds should have machine guns, grenades and tanks but citizens should go back to using a bow and arrow.
I agree with this argument
The issue here should be what makes someone decide to kill a bunch of people. The tool that they choose to use should be irrelevant. Bombs are outlawed but yet a couple of nuts used them in Boston and killed people. If it isn't this weapon it will be that weapon. You shouldn't penalize the overwhelming majority of sane, responsible people because there are some nuts out there.
We are talking about people that are equipped to do other people harm. As a man with a dick, you are equipped to rape women. A lot more rapes happen every year then mass AR15 shootings. Should we start castrating all men? After all, they could snap and start raping women. If men didn't have cocks we could virtually eliminate rape.
The government can not protect you from all potential harm. A better choice would be to learn how to protect yourself.
This is a big part of the whole argument. The normal law abiding citizen will not have access to weapons that can cause major harm easily therefore there won't be higher death rates when he goes cockoo.
I don't fully agree with this and am not a proponent for outlawing assault weapons, however, i do think automatic weapons should still be outlawed. The dick comparison falls flat because we are born with them and they are a part of our bodies. So its not really much of an argument. Next, you can't always prevent people from snapping nor predict when they will. Which means thank goodness they don't have nukes, machines guns grenades and maybe "assault weapons" which is the real debate here. The fact that many people have guns is a deterrent IMO from many other crimes.
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The fact that many people have guns is a deterrent IMO from many other crimes.
I agree 100%
I just don't understand why liberty is becoming unimportant to a huge segment of the population. They have all this misplaced faith in the government to solve all of our problems. First of all that's not possible, but even if it was possible it's not smart.
The debate that people should be having right now should be about the role of government. What are they really there to do? How much control over our every day lives should they have? How much of our money do they need? Why are they preoccupied with gun control, abortion and immigration reform while we are facing vastly more important issues?
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;D Ok, I'll play the game:
Because if one of those "law Abiding" citizens mentally snap and decide to go on a killing spree they can do far more damage with an assault rifle and high capacity mags, then a bolt action rifle or 6 round revolver.
That's a big "if' and a very small chance of happening. You have a higher chance of drowning in your bathtub than getting gun downed by a high capacity rifle.
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More guns than ever and the murder rate continues to drop.
Pull the black-on-black violence out of the equation (95% of blacks are murdered by other blacks) and the murder rate drops even more significantly.
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More guns than ever and the murder rate continues to drop.
Pull the black-on-black violence out of the equation (95% of blacks are murdered by other blacks) and the murder rate drops even more significantly.
But it's for the children.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/02/1206405/-Cole-Winthrow-Expelled-Faces-Felony-Gun-Charges-Protest-Goes-Viral
Check out this bullshit
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/02/1206405/-Cole-Winthrow-Expelled-Faces-Felony-Gun-Charges-Protest-Goes-Viral
Check out this bullshit
Costly mistake. They better lock this kid up. He's a menace.
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Costly mistake. They better lock this kid up. He's a menace.
Ha. Read the comments.
DailyKos has some of the most arrogant, elitist, self-hating assholes on the internet posting on it.
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Ha. Read the comments.
DailyKos has some of the most arrogant, elitist, self-hating assholes on the internet posting on it.
The funny thing is that these are same clowns screaming every time someone is arrested and jailed for possession of pot. Go figure that one out!
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why shouldn't a law abiding citizen be able to own a grenade launcher
Sorry, but that's not an answer. It's a deflection. An attempt to change the conversation to a stupid irrelevant argument that you feel you have a better chance of winning. The OP posted a simple question and clearly none of you ban lovers can answer it because there is no good reason why they can't.
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Tony - how many times have you asked me this question now and how many times have I answered it
I've literally lost count. You asked it a few months ago and last year, etc...
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Tony - how many times have you asked me this question now and how many times have I answered it
I've literally lost count. You asked it a few months ago and last year, etc...
I havent ever got an answer really, ive got deflections like the one you tried in this thread.
Thats not an answer...
why should a law abiding citizen not be allowed to own an "assault rifle" and "high capacity" magazines?
not an question but your reasoning behind your view that they shouldnt be allowed.
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Own away, but will you be willing to face a stiff penalty if your assault rifle one day winds up in a criminals hands and used in a crime?
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Own away, but will you be willing to face a stiff penalty if your assault rifle one day winds up in a criminals hands and used in a crime?
Oh GMAFB
Typical thug cop mentaliy
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Own away, but will you be willing to face a stiff penalty if your assault rifle one day winds up in a criminals hands and used in a crime?
are you also in favor of punishing those who have their cars stolen and used in criminal activity? ::)
Im very much in favor of keeping your guns in safe and secure places but if a criminal happens to get to them, you really feel that I should be held accountable?
is your idiocy only limited to "assault rifles" or all guns? what about knives?
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Oh GMAFB
Typical thug cop mentaliy
Yep, this thug cop doesn't want to come face to face with an AK because someone didn't secure it in their house or vehicle and it got stolen...
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are you also in favor of punishing those who have their cars stolen and used in criminal activity? ::)
Im very much in favor of keeping your guns in safe and secure places but if a criminal happens to get to them, you really feel that I should be held accountable?
is your idiocy only limited to "assault rifles" or all guns? what about knives?
No, pretty much just firearms..
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No, pretty much just firearms..
any particular reason for the blatent hypocrisey or just plain ignorance?
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any particular reason for the blatent hypocrisey or just plain ignorance?
No particular reason.. just my opinion. With owning firearms comes responsibility. People want to collect an arsenal fine.. keep it out of the hands of the bad guys..
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No particular reason.. just my opinion. With owning firearms comes responsibility. People want to collect an arsenal fine.. keep it out of the hands of the bad guys..
and no responsiblity comes with owning a car or knives, right?
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Own away, but will you be willing to face a stiff penalty if your assault rifle one day winds up in a criminals hands and used in a crime?
Really? Don't remember hearing you make this claim for gun walking. So you think all those ATF agents belong in prison? Or is it all cool when cops do it and fuck up and let guns wind up in the hands of criminals?
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I havent ever got an answer really, ive got deflections like the one you tried in this thread.
Thats not an answer...
why should a law abiding citizen not be allowed to own an "assault rifle" and "high capacity" magazines?
not an question but your reasoning behind your view that they shouldnt be allowed.
what is your definition of an "assault rifle" ?
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what is your definition of an "assault rifle" ?
I didnt coin the term, maybe you should ask your liberal friends as they are the ones who want them banned.
I would say use the term "assault weapon" in the way they used it in their bill that failed miserably
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Alleged Intruder Attacks Elderly Woman With a Club
— Her Husband Responds With a Revolver
By Erica Ritz | The Blaze – Sun, Apr 28, 2013
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Armen's Music Store
(Photo: KDKA-TV)
Police say a Pennsylvania business owner fatally shot an intruder after the man attacked the business owner's wife with a club.
Sylvia and Alfred Armen were working in the music store they own, CBS Pittsburgh/KDKA reports, when the suspect came in and looked at some of the merchandise. He reportedly left for a few minutes, then came back with a wooden club.
Without delay, he allegedly struck Sylvia in the head, before "Mr. Armen came to her rescue," Bethel Park Police Chief John Mackey said.
The Armens are both in their seventies.
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Armen's Music Store
(Photo: KDKA-TV)
Alfred reportedly engaged in a physical struggle with the assailant before fatally shooting him with a revolver.
Authorities aren't saying whether the couple knew the suspect, but he is described as a white male in his early thirties.
Sylvia and Alfred were both hospitalized for their injuries, but are expected to be alright.
"I think they're in pretty decent shape considering what occurred here today," Mackey described.
Police have not released a motive for the suspect.
http://news.yahoo.com/alleged-penn-intruder-dead-attacking-elderly-woman-club-004819256.html
I suppose the gun grabbers expected the seventy year old woman to fend off the thirty year old man while her elderly husband called the police, ...and keep getting beaten by the club until they arrived. ::)
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Alleged Intruder Attacks Elderly Woman With a Club
— Her Husband Responds With a Revolver
By Erica Ritz | The Blaze – Sun, Apr 28, 2013
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Armen's Music Store
(Photo: KDKA-TV)
Police say a Pennsylvania business owner fatally shot an intruder after the man attacked the business owner's wife with a club.
Sylvia and Alfred Armen were working in the music store they own, CBS Pittsburgh/KDKA reports, when the suspect came in and looked at some of the merchandise. He reportedly left for a few minutes, then came back with a wooden club.
Without delay, he allegedly struck Sylvia in the head, before "Mr. Armen came to her rescue," Bethel Park Police Chief John Mackey said.
The Armens are both in their seventies.
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/rdAQICP1Etkkg6FCSn6SEw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2013-04-28-at-8.48.26-PM-620x351.png)
Armen's Music Store
(Photo: KDKA-TV)
Alfred reportedly engaged in a physical struggle with the assailant before fatally shooting him with a revolver.
Authorities aren't saying whether the couple knew the suspect, but he is described as a white male in his early thirties.
Sylvia and Alfred were both hospitalized for their injuries, but are expected to be alright.
"I think they're in pretty decent shape considering what occurred here today," Mackey described.
Police have not released a motive for the suspect.
http://news.yahoo.com/alleged-penn-intruder-dead-attacking-elderly-woman-club-004819256.html
I suppose the gun grabbers expected the seventy year old woman to find off the thirty year old man while her elderly husband called the police, ...and keep getting beaten by the club until they arrived. ::)
You must be drunk-- because that was a valid and intelligent post that had nothing to do with selling gold on the internet.
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Really? Don't remember hearing you make this claim for gun walking. So you think all those ATF agents belong in prison? Or is it all cool when cops do it and fuck up and let guns wind up in the hands of criminals?
Skip, it's not cool. That no one was held accountable for that ridiculous operation other than some transfers is typical of our governments philosophy. The supervisors and management who approved and or implemented that operation and allowed guns to get into the hands of bad guys should be prosecuted.
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You must be drunk-- because that was a valid and intelligent post that had nothing to do with selling gold on the internet.
I'm quite sober.
Perhaps if you read more of my stuff and sought to comprehend what I'm trying to say, rather than have a pavlovian kneejerk response, you'd see I quite frequently make valid and intelligent posts. Some have to do with gold, ...some do not.
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so no real answer?
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I didnt coin the term, maybe you should ask your liberal friends as they are the ones who want them banned.
I would say use the term "assault weapon" in the way they used it in their bill that failed miserably
I didn't say you created the word but you wrote the word in the title of your thread and put it in quotation marks so you're clearly defining some meaning of the word in your mind.
I would say use the term "assault weapon" in the way they used it in their bill that failed miserably
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here's a link to the bill (thanks Skip)
I can't find the word "assault weapon" but I might have missed it
can you tell me what part you're referring to
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s374/text
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I didn't say you created the word but you wrote the word in the title of your thread and put it in quotation marks so you're clearly defining some meaning of the word in your mind.
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here's a link to the bill (thanks Skip)
I can't find the word "assault weapon" but I might have missed it
can you tell me what part you're referring to
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s374/text
g0 change your diaper
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g0 change your diaper
this is what your frustrated fanboy Bereft Fairy calls me stalking you
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I didn't say you created the word but you wrote the word in the title of your thread and put it in quotation marks so you're clearly defining some meaning of the word in your mind.
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here's a link to the bill (thanks Skip)
I can't find the word "assault weapon" but I might have missed it
can you tell me what part you're referring to
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s374/text
I quoted the fundy libtards who want them banned, including yourself...are you telling me you were for the "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazine ban and you didnt even know what it banned?
sounds about right for the "you have to pass the bill before we know whats in it" crowd.....
here you go
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/assault-weapons-ban_n_3103120.html
do a little more research Im sure you can find it
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Libreral communists cant admit their true agenda
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Libreral communists cant admit their true agenda
could be true
define communist again just so I know what you're talking about
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I quoted the fundy libtards who want them banned, including yourself...are you telling me you were for the "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazine ban and you didnt even know what it banned?
sounds about right for the "you have to pass the bill before we know whats in it" crowd.....
here you go
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/assault-weapons-ban_n_3103120.html
do a little more research Im sure you can find it
you referred to the text of the bill
that's what I am asking you about
I didnt coin the term, maybe you should ask your liberal friends as they are the ones who want them banned.
I would say use the term "assault weapon" in the way they used it in their bill that failed miserably
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you referred to the text of the bill
that's what I am asking you about
so let me get this straight, you supported this bill but you didnt know what was in it?
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here you go straw, no will you please quit deflecting...
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).
The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:
Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
Antique weapons.
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so let me get this straight, you supported this bill but you didnt know what was in it?
you said
I would say use the term "assault weapon" in the way they used it in their bill that failed miserably
I searched the bill and couldn't find the term "assault weapon"
so what exactly are you referring to and if you didn't mean "assault weapon" then why did use the word and even go so far as to put it in quotation marks?
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you said
I searched the bill and couldn't find the term "assault weapon"
so what exactly are you referring to and if you didn't mean "assault weapon" then why did use the word and even go so far as to put it in quotation marks?
here you go straw, no will you please quit deflecting...
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).
The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:
Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
Antique weapons.
holy crap dude are you this big a prick in real life?
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here you go straw, no will you please quit deflecting...
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).
The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:
Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
Antique weapons.
bump for another deflection
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bump for another deflection
Told you in the other thread that you wouldn't get a reasonable, rational, logical response to this question.
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bump for another deflection
bump for what
you said "the way they used it in "their bill" yet there never was any bill and even with the stuff you've cut and pasted you haven't clarified exactly what "the way they used it" you're even talking about
give me some examples, using your link, of where you object to how they used the term "assault weapon"
that shouldn't be too hard for you
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bump for what
you said "the way they used it in "their bill" yet there never was any bill and even with the stuff you've cut and pasted you haven't clarified exactly what "the way they used it" you're even talking about
give me some examples, using your link, of where you object to how they used the term "assault weapon"
that shouldn't be too hard for you
Lets use the below description which was part of the bill but got dropped...
here you go straw, no will you please quit deflecting...
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).
The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:
Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
Antique weapons.
LMFAO, you really look make the case for your position in a rational and coherent manner hahahhaha
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Lets use the below description which was part of the bill but got dropped...LMFAO, you really look make the case for your position in a rational and coherent manner hahahhaha
and I still have no idea what that you object about in "how they used the term assault weapon"
I think that term appears about 22 time in the text you cut and pasted so why don't you find one of those examples and explain what you didn't like about how they used that term
that's of course if you weren't just talking out of your ass and actually have no idea what it is that you claim to be bitching about
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and I still have no idea what that you object about in "how they used the term assault weapon"
I think that term appears about 22 time in the text you cut and pasted so why don't you find one of those examples and explain what you didn't like about how they used that term
that's of course if you weren't just talking out of your ass and actually have no idea what it is that you claim to be bitching about
why should any law abiding citizen be denied any of the things on the list of proposed banned items?
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why should any law abiding citizen be denied any of the things on the list of proposed banned items?
still no idea what you're referring to when you wrote "assault weapon" and "in the way they used it in their bill"
you've posted a link with your source so how about just giving me an example of tow of the "way they used it" and why you don't like it
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still no idea what you're referring to when you wrote "assault weapon" and "in the way they used it in their bill"
you've posted a link with your source so how about just giving me an example of tow of the "way they used it" and why you don't like it
When confronted with facts, deflect, redirect and confound the conversation with topics that bear no relevance to the discussion. Text book responses by someone with no legs to stand on.
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When confronted with facts, deflect, redirect and confound the conversation with topics that bear no relevance to the discussion. Text book responses by someone with no legs to stand on.
I've merely asked him for two pages now to explain his own statement
If he can't actually do that then I guess somehow that's my fault ...right?
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When confronted with facts, deflect, redirect and confound the conversation with topics that bear no relevance to the discussion. Text book responses by someone with no legs to stand on.
absolutely, like ive said before about joe biden....
These fundy libtards do more for the cause than any NRA advertisement will ever do everytime they open their mouths on the subject
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absolutely, like ive said before about joe biden....
These fundy libtards do more for the cause than any NRA advertisement will ever do everytime they open their mouths on the subject
what's a fundy libtard
oh I forgot, you have no idea even though you use the word
I love how you have a specific objection to the "way they used the word" in a "their bill" but you're incapable of providing a specific example and elucidating exactly what it is you don't like in that example
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what's a fundy libtard
oh I forgot, you have no idea even though you use the word
I love how you have a specific objection to the "way they used the word" in a "their bill" but you're incapable of providing a specific example and elucidating exactly what it is you don't like in that example
anyone who believes that a pistol grip and folding stock make a gun more dangerous...
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anyone who believes that a pistol grip and folding stock make a gun more dangerous...
explain the "fundy" part
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explain the "fundy" part
someones whos fundamental liberal belief that guns are evil lead to a belief that somehow a pistol grip and folding stock make guns more dangerous...LMFAO
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someones whos fundamental liberal belief that guns are evil lead to a belief that somehow a pistol grip and folding stock make guns more dangerous...LMFAO
so now you are capable of defining this word
last week you couldn't do it and said it wasn't even your word
so "fundy" refers to beliefs about the gun features
is this your word now or are you defining someone else's creation?
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why shouldnt someone be able to own a gun with two pistol grips straw?
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why shouldnt someone be able to own a gun with two pistol grips straw?
only a fundy libtard such as yourself would ask such a question
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only a fundy libtard such as yourself would ask such a question
hahahah keep helping the cause strawman...LMFAO
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hahahah keep helping the cause strawman...LMFAO
hey fundy libtard
what's a military feature?
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I've merely asked him for two pages now to explain his own statement
If he can't actually do that then I guess somehow that's my fault ...right?
It was explained pages ago, you chose to continue on the same vain and just dance around like a Saturday night line dance-o-thon. You could have participated in a healthy discussion yet chose to focus your efforts on derailing it.
I don't know if you just like pushing tommy's buttons or what your motives are, but this thread is a good example of why I don't post here often. There's little discussion going on and it's just a bunch of back and forth nonsense and jibber jabber.
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It was explained pages ago, you chose to continue on the same vain and just dance around like a Saturday night line dance-o-thon. You could have participated in a healthy discussion yet chose to focus your efforts on derailing it.
I don't know if you just like pushing tommy's buttons or what your motives are, but this thread is a good example of why I don't post here often. There's little discussion going on and it's just a bunch of back and forth nonsense and jibber jabber.
all he did was eventually post something from Feinstein (not in the bill that was voted on) and failed to point to any single example in the text from Feinstein
feel free to point out what I missed
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all he did was eventually post something from Feinstein (not in the bill that was voted on) and failed to point to any single example in the text from Feinstein
feel free to point out what I missed
you're bangin your head against a brick wall..