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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2125 on: July 10, 2013, 05:44:46 PM »
Modification not motivation damn jobs and his autocorrect .

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2126 on: July 10, 2013, 07:12:52 PM »
Nobody's really discussed in-depth the effects this diet (or OTH's, for that matter) has on one's cognitive competences -- probably because precious few here possess or utilize any. Can somebody that knows the square root of potato share with us how the diet effects (effected) their ability to think clearly and otherwise do mental work?

while i'm not like 100% strict on this diet, i haven't actually noticed becoming any stupider.

waiting until "unbearable hunger pangs", however, is the biggest part of this diet i don't follow.  if i did that, i would probably be dead.

to summarize my experiences: waiting until brutal hunger pangs to eat = i become extremely stupid.

however, eating

1.  150g or so protein
2.  50g or so fat
3.  a bag of vegetables (such as green beans, broccoli, carrots, snap peas)
4.  maybe around 1500 cals a day
5.  a "cheat meal" of whatever i want every 4ish days

in a more regular fashion = i'm fine

(well, look up my posting history over the last month and judge for yourself how dumb i sound)

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2127 on: July 10, 2013, 07:17:13 PM »
6'0. ....


my starting point was DJ's dream physique lol. I wasnt even 20 years old here
I didn't even have to read your post to know that you were going to have a "... I wasn't even 20 here"

Every post you talk about how young you are. You've been saying that for years. Let it go.

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2128 on: July 10, 2013, 07:18:07 PM »
I'm glad they are writing a book for the simple fact that this thread he's gotten so sidetracked and fucked up I can't even remember what they were talking about and the actual info is all over the damn place.

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2129 on: July 10, 2013, 08:07:01 PM »
^ not the first lurker to register on getbig because of this thread. That's pretty awesome.

absolutely and thats what this about. i have pm's from guy w one post. thats pretty awesome.
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2130 on: July 10, 2013, 08:09:12 PM »
Im 100 natty - but i see results so far.   Whats the major differenece?   im leaner and not dropping much muscle at all from what i can tell.

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2131 on: July 10, 2013, 08:10:19 PM »
I'm glad they are writing a book for the simple fact that this thread he's gotten so sidetracked and fucked up I can't even remember what they were talking about and the actual info is all over the damn place.

agreed man.
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2132 on: July 10, 2013, 08:31:00 PM »


^ pwnd
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2133 on: July 10, 2013, 09:07:39 PM »
Naturals who follow this program will come to envy the muscular development of emaciated long distance runners.

To the extent that the diet will work, it will only do so for assisted users.

And please, don't post any pics of yourself telling us that you're not on anything. Everyone who does so is not fooling anyone. 

a true natural will look like shit no matter what he does so your point is irrelevent
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2134 on: July 10, 2013, 09:07:55 PM »
Galeniko, any tips on going to sleep when dieting like this?
all drugs - TPPIIP

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2135 on: July 10, 2013, 09:37:48 PM »
another thing.

the clown4life has said how can one grow during a diet,despite our fierce critic cessypuss saying hes experiencing that, naturaly!.

despite seeing how noone grew into shreddedness.

despite me doing so, onetimehard was pming back and forth with me back then when i done it.

im sure he remembers how i filledout nicely into shreddedness

bulking is yesterday, we do that differently.

why would i choke myself on clean foods only to get fat,like everyone else.
yesevenif i did that,id get fat too.
iwalkedin those shoes myself when i was naive and gulibel

impossible to grow in a diet?really?think about it.


indeed you surprised the hell out of me and transformed over night and your triceps were shocking,.... as they were not to impressive with layer of fat over them but when you peeled the fat off, those tri's were fucken freaky, still are.

Good times gal, you have been shredded ever since.   8)

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2136 on: July 10, 2013, 09:39:19 PM »
Galeniko, any tips on going to sleep when dieting like this?

I thought you followed Wiggs diet philosophy  ;D

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2137 on: July 10, 2013, 09:53:42 PM »
I thought you followed Wiggs diet philosophy  ;D

But wiggs doesnt have a diet philosophy.... ;D
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2138 on: July 10, 2013, 10:50:44 PM »

are you using Ephedrine, pseudoeph or any type of pre workout that might contain a legal amphetamine analog/substitute?

No at the time i was on

250mg Test enan e/ 7th day
Tren e 200mg e/ 7th day
T3 50-75mcg ed (alternated w/ prescribed 100mcg T4 ed)
Clen off/on every two weeks 100mcg ed
Adex @.50mg eod

The second time i had
125mg Test enan e/ 7th day
Eq 500mg wkly
Tren E @ 400mg wkly - then reduced to 200mg to finish off and mitigate the pain in the scrotum area
Adex .25 ed or .50mg eod
Dbol 20-30mg on workout days only
T3 (alternated with T4 - sometimes used consecutively)

I just started ephedrine (eca stack once a day on workout days) for the first time (Fri July 5, 2013) in a few years again - no issues so far with
Sus 250 e/ 7th day
Deca 500mg e/ 7th
T4 100mcd ed
40mg var ed

Been on cycle since Sept 28 last year - no problems - except for when i throw in the Tren E.

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2139 on: July 10, 2013, 10:52:48 PM »
the clown4life has said how can one grow during a diet,despite our fierce critic cessypuss saying hes experiencing that, naturaly!.

???

ps after three days of dieting, finally i felt pretty much like shit today.  i have a feeling it's unrelated to the diet, but anyway just ate a huge bowl of pasta with meat sauce and half a bag of m&ms :D

i was craving the pasta, but it didn't actually make me feel that much better -- the sugary m&ms REALLY hit the spot tho.  also, i got extremely full on an amount that i wouldn't have blinked at a month ago.  when i first started this diet, i always thought about food, of course (doubly so since i love to cook and was experimenting a lot), and would just fantasize about eating an insane amount of this or that.  now, when i do have my "cheat meal", i don't even desire that much (still a lot compared to a normal meal, but really not much at all).

another thing i noticed is my biceps tendon feels very strange and awful, maybe like it's going to snap.  never felt such a sensation before...

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2140 on: July 10, 2013, 10:53:16 PM »
Anything to do with long term tren usage? I believe you said 300mg Tren A weekly.

After about 8 weeks on Tren E - i start getting this pain in scrotum where i have to stop it. You also feel that pain while peeing from time to time. The longer you're own - the more you feel it.

Forgot to add the pain is started by & exacerbated by any squatting position. Once it starts - it becomes unbearable, especially during squats.

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2141 on: July 10, 2013, 11:01:26 PM »
No at the time i was on

250mg Test enan e/ 7th day
Tren e 200mg e/ 7th day
T3 50-75mcg ed (alternated w/ prescribed 100mcg T4 ed)
Clen off/on every two weeks 100mcg ed
Adex @.50mg eod

The second time i had
125mg Test enan e/ 7th day
Eq 500mg wkly
Tren E @ 400mg wkly - then reduced to 200mg to finish off and mitigate the pain in the scrotum area
Adex .25 ed or .50mg eod
Dbol 20-30mg on workout days only
T3 (alternated with T4 - sometimes used consecutively)

I just started ephedrine (eca stack once a day on workout days) for the first time (Fri July 5, 2013) in a few years again - no issues so far with
Sus 250 e/ 7th day
Deca 500mg e/ 7th
T4 100mcd ed
40mg var ed

Been on cycle since Sept 28 last year - no problems - except for when i throw in the Tren E.

Prostate issues from the Tren? 

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2142 on: July 10, 2013, 11:32:09 PM »
Prostate issues from the Tren? 

see I was thinking the same but from ephedrine. shit fucks me up bad like that.

could be the tren e. pretty much has to be as I don't realllly see much there that might do it otherwise 

randy- is this like a 'blue balls' type pain, cause I've had that mildly on tren ace.
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2143 on: July 10, 2013, 11:45:33 PM »
see I was thinking the same but from ephedrine. shit fucks me up bad like that.

could be the tren e. pretty much has to be as I don't realllly see much there that might do it otherwise 

randy- is this like a 'blue balls' type pain, cause I've had that mildly on tren ace.

I'm curious myself because I'm a fkng tren junkie and never have any prostate problems. Erratic libido (cialis FTW)  And testicular shrinkage for me....the usual.

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2144 on: July 10, 2013, 11:53:50 PM »
???

ps after three days of dieting, finally i felt pretty much like shit today.  i have a feeling it's unrelated to the diet, but anyway just ate a huge bowl of pasta with meat sauce and half a bag of m&ms :D

i was craving the pasta, but it didn't actually make me feel that much better -- the sugary m&ms REALLY hit the spot tho.  also, i got extremely full on an amount that i wouldn't have blinked at a month ago.  when i first started this diet, i always thought about food, of course (doubly so since i love to cook and was experimenting a lot), and would just fantasize about eating an insane amount of this or that.  now, when i do have my "cheat meal", i don't even desire that much (still a lot compared to a normal meal, but really not much at all).

another thing i noticed is my biceps tendon feels very strange and awful, maybe like it's going to snap.  never felt such a sensation before...


the emboldened parts- YES!!!

that feeling is totally related to the diet. we address this in the book and tell you how to overcome it. it comes out if nowhere. typically in the tail end of your low days. the very act of walking makes you feel like your walking under water. am I close? ;) ya so you did right. the body doesn't need the big meal here. it needs a boost to get you thru to the next day. within 20 minutes you started to feel awesome. within an hour you could have trained. it's important to recognise this feeling and not have that big meal just a get me thru type cal adjustment as that's all the body requires. you can tell by home well it responds. :)

your getting it dude. gal and I have exchanged emails over these very things- the body telling you what it wants for a type of food when it absolutely needs it (there's a difference between craving and necessity).

secondly, the whole idea is that as you progress downward your stomach does shrink. it simply cannot handle the volume of food it used to, thereby limiting the severity your hunger and keeping you better satiated when you do eat. I'm at a point now where if I eat one pound of chicken breast w some PB I'm so full when I'm done it's ridiculous. to the point where I just cannot eat any more. and I'm a hard training male trying to support 230+ pounds of lean tissue. amazing just how 'little' food we really do need.

and finally the desire. your there dude. like your right there. fucking awesome. you got this. that's the last big key. thinking about all the foods that make your stomach growl and be indifferent to whether you eat them or not. in fact you find yourself thinking about them on purpose. it just does not bother you. once you hit that point your on your way. you've achieved one of the last major hurdles. your in lock down mode now as I call it. something that just never happens on conventional diets. I don't know what processes take place neurologically  and chemically to allow for his but for some crazy strange reason the brain adapts as well to the diet as the body does.

now you know why gal and I weren't bullshitting about this dude. your there now. like right there. all you gotta do now is put the time in. and I can fucking GUARANTEE others reading this are going to be like 'oh ya, that's happening to me to. is that what that is? awesome!'

that's why we encourage the free exchange of ideas. cause it's going to help someone somewhere.

as for the bicep I can't speak on that. I'm still gtg w all my joints an stuff. was just telling gal today. typically when you get this lean shit start to fall apart a bit. there no fat or water really to cushion anything so you get worn out a bit. given the type of volume/ frequency I'm doing I'm amazed I have zero joint issues (I'm hitting tris and bis every other day right now.) and still 100% function. maybe gal can address this as I know he was battling some joint issues.

thanks for the feedback dude. cue the trolls. :D
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2145 on: July 10, 2013, 11:54:49 PM »
I'm curious myself because I'm a fkng tren junkie and never have any prostate problems. Erratic libido (cialis FTW)  And testicular shrinkage for me....the usual.

tren makes me hyper sexual. like ridiculous. the shrinkage I've had for a decade. lol
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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2146 on: July 11, 2013, 12:05:47 AM »
a true natural will look like shit no matter what he does so your point is irrelevent


slow down son, you cannot make that statement.
 I am natural and I know that I will look much better than what I look now.
See, I don't even use protein powder. As I said before we do not have same goals. My is to be lean at at the age of 46 with visible six pack, lean body.
Achieving this would be a great thing for me as not many guys my age look good and take care of their physic.
Your goal is to be big, muscular, pro size or whatever, good for you, keep up the dream. But do not tell me that people not using drugs look like shit as.
That is dumb statement. ;)

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« Reply #2147 on: July 11, 2013, 12:18:34 AM »

slow down son, you cannot make that statement.
 I am natural and I know that I will look much better than what I look now.
See, I don't even use protein powder. As I said before we do not have same goals. My is to be lean at at the age of 46 with visible six pack, lean body.
Achieving this would be a great thing for me as not many guys my age look good and take care of their physic.
Your goal is to be big, muscular, pro size or whatever, good for you, keep up the dream. But do not tell me that people not using drugs look like shit as.
That is dumb statement. ;)

As if anyone would listen to flinstones1?  :D

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2148 on: July 11, 2013, 12:20:52 AM »
What i do, honestly..is a hybrid system. And i have a formula too.

A regular non-cheat day, is along the lines of this thread....hi pro/lo carb/lo fat

A cheat day is along TAs lines. I eat whatever the fuck i want..but within reason and i mind my portions

And my formula is what i call my expectations formula, based on a 10 day span.

If i eat clean 7 out of 10 days, that's not enough, and I'm treading water

8 out of 10 days is good, and seems to be the tipping point for me personally

9 out of 10 is beast mode and I'm,getting leaner by the week. I just dont like keeping it up for long.

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Re: Galeniko please grace us with your nutritional strategy
« Reply #2149 on: July 11, 2013, 12:29:29 AM »

^ I gotta give a lot of credit to TA to opening my mind to explore the calorie is a calorie thing and eventually come to the same conclusions as Gal did. but if it weren't for TA making me 'think' I'd never be in this shape, or have adopted the principles i have today in regards to this system.

ya dude every system works. it's find one that works best for you. a lot of guys don't have the time in or experience you and I do so this tool should help them greatly

after all it's finding what works and sticking too it. :)
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